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hughee99

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162. If the article had been titled "Man protects 5yo from attack in park"

Tue Jul 3, 2012, 01:47 PM

Jul 2012

I wonder if the responses would be different even with the same story. It seems like it's still not clear what, exactly, happened.

"A young boy spending a cool, cloudy morning in San Francisco’s Golden Gate Park, either frolicking among the geese at Stow Lake or harassing them.

An elderly woman taking her small terrier on their daily walk, who either did nothing more than scold the boy or grabbed him by the neck.

The boy’s father, who either knocked the woman over accidentally or shoved her to the ground.

Police haven’t found any independent witnesses who saw what happened Friday. All they know for sure is that the 82-year-old woman is in the hospital with a life-threatening head wound, and they would like to get the father’s side of the story."

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Woman, 82, told child to stop teasing a park goose, was shoved to ground by father. [View all] Liberal_in_LA Jul 2012 OP

Look for the child and the man with his head up his ass. CleanLucre Jul 2012 #1

That poor woman, and that poor kid. Brickbat Jul 2012 #2

Yeah, that man has to be a monster joeybee12 Jul 2012 #3

So let me get this right ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #4

Unfreakingbelievable malaise Jul 2012 #6

Older folks ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #19

True but you'd think they'd draw a line with the elderly malaise Jul 2012 #27

It is scary to see that. I wish the american people would treat their family elders and all southernyankeebelle Jul 2012 #59

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #69

Will someone please pass the salt lpbk2713 Jul 2012 #70

It's also illegal to touch her. tblue Jul 2012 #40

You'd be surprised how unglued some parents liberalhistorian Jul 2012 #113

My first reaction would be - and has been - Nevernose Jul 2012 #5

+1000 Iris Jul 2012 #9

Absolutely ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #24

+1000 Control-Z Jul 2012 #37

The kid is lucky that the goose didn't go on the attack. amandabeech Jul 2012 #195

Is the article saying "the man" who shoved her also helped her to her car? Or is it badly written? Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2012 #7

yes, article is saying he also helped her to her car. 1. shove 2. assist Liberal_in_LA Jul 2012 #10

He must have realized he fucked up. Incitatus Jul 2012 #61

Wow, he must have quite the temper treestar Jul 2012 #8

I know those geese. Eventually one of them would have whooped that kid's ass. dogknob Jul 2012 #11

Yeah, I'm surprised the goose didn't go after him. immoderate Jul 2012 #41

A goose chased my ass down the street CanonRay Jul 2012 #106

Too bad that was before the days of YouTube! Brigid Jul 2012 #125

Thanks heavens it was before you tube! CanonRay Jul 2012 #178

Yeah, geese can really beat you up bad, especially if you are a kid. GreenPartyVoter Jul 2012 #185

god bless america. L0oniX Jul 2012 #12

if he had done that to my mom, he rateyes Jul 2012 #13

I agree somewhat... Cronkite Jul 2012 #194

What a uber asswipe that guy is. nt valerief Jul 2012 #14

Whoa. Arugula Latte Jul 2012 #15

Maybe she did break a hip. Brigid Jul 2012 #20

a couple years ago I asked a kid to stop throwing rocks at baby ducks in the harbor magical thyme Jul 2012 #16

Yes, the father is a complete and total a$$hole ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #28

A big fuckin sociopath pink-o Jul 2012 #68

A-fucking-men REP Jul 2012 #80

Good thing you had a big dog. eom tawadi Jul 2012 #30

Big black dogs. Don't leave home without'em! nt magical thyme Jul 2012 #66

I have had 2 black lab mixes nadine_mn Jul 2012 #170

I'm walking my dogs and a 3 year old gets out of his stroller, picks up rocks... KurtNYC Jul 2012 #90

"He likes to throw rocks at dogs"??? Lydia Leftcoast Jul 2012 #112

OMG and she expected you to let him? get the red out Jul 2012 #128

I am always sort of stunned when these things happen KurtNYC Jul 2012 #186

Whatever happened to that guy? DiverDave Jul 2012 #188

What pisses me off, is that legally if the dog were to bite that child nadine_mn Jul 2012 #172

"My foot likes to kick people like you in the ass" Number23 Jul 2012 #204

it has long been a cardinal sin to even speak to a child that is not your own Scout Jul 2012 #17

What you describe is a pretty sad state of affairs. ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #22

I'm sorry to say that I think ManiacJoe is close to correct. nt ladjf Jul 2012 #36

Pretty much, I think. bitchkitty Jul 2012 #176

If you're a dude, your also in danger of molesting a child at any time... Romulox Jul 2012 #26

When we were kids.... blueamy66 Jul 2012 #99

Yep those good old days when people could hit children whenever and however they darn well yellowcanine Jul 2012 #183

When and where did I type that we were hit? blueamy66 Jul 2012 #203

There was a scene from the first season of Mad Men 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #109

I remember that episode Duer 157099 Jul 2012 #137

Yeah, I actually kinda hated Don and Betty for that episode 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #167

Just more realism bongbong Jul 2012 #181

I know I know 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #198

The asshole Dad who pushed her COLGATE4 Jul 2012 #18

That guy better pray to the god of asinine punks that this doesn't turn into a murder rap... nt Romulox Jul 2012 #21

What's the guy's freeper name? Pilotguy Jul 2012 #23

If the 82 year old woman with a head injury told an accurate story... lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #25

Wow tawadi Jul 2012 #29

Well that is a lesson learned... Kalidurga Jul 2012 #31

I bet this asshole is hell to live with arcane1 Jul 2012 #32

No security cameras in the parking lot, then? MADem Jul 2012 #33

Maybe, just maybe woolldog Jul 2012 #34

You're kidding ... Right? 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #43

That one? Sadly, no. Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #65

omg obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #46

That would have worked if ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #48

you sound like a real dick frylock Jul 2012 #53

+1 sarcasmo Jul 2012 #87

That's on par with "girls in short skirts are asking to be raped." nt Incitatus Jul 2012 #62

Just fucking guess what I'm thinking about you right now! FiveGoodMen Jul 2012 #72

Guess you would have shoved her too, eh? sarcasmo Jul 2012 #86

Maybe....just maybe.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2012 #92

Shame on you. emilyg Jul 2012 #93

maybe, just maybe magical thyme Jul 2012 #95

actually geese do have a voice - a loud abrasive voice arely staircase Jul 2012 #159

in this one case it was geese magical thyme Jul 2012 #166

You approach the father then and let him know your concerns * woolldog Jul 2012 #171

and if both parents are standing right there and ignoring the harassment magical thyme Jul 2012 #187

What specifically leads you to believe that observed animal abuse is not... LanternWaste Jul 2012 #118

So she deserves to be shoved to the ground? LeftishBrit Jul 2012 #130

No it's not ok to attack anyone physically. woolldog Jul 2012 #165

Some kids need to be wendylaroux Jul 2012 #184

As soon as the kid is taught by his/her parents how to properly behave, mythology Jul 2012 #212

Oh please get the red out Jul 2012 #132

Ha - you shoved her, didn't you? n/t bitchkitty Jul 2012 #177

you've got nothing on me.... woolldog Jul 2012 #199

My "business" is the harm towards innocents who cannot defend themselves! mizzuz pibb Jul 2012 #197

That's a really shitty thing to say lunatica Jul 2012 #207

Does anyone know what an angry feral goose will do to a child who is teasing him? PDJane Jul 2012 #35

It's funny that you brought up the possible aggression of an adult goose. When I first saw the ladjf Jul 2012 #38

Trust me. Geese can cause broken bones and head injuries. PDJane Jul 2012 #55

heh,eheh, I m the elderly lady that goes up to parents and asks them hollysmom Jul 2012 #74

wait, what? blueamy66 Jul 2012 #205

okey dokey hollysmom Jul 2012 #206

Remember that recently a swan killed a man csziggy Jul 2012 #84

You obviously have had more experience with geese than I. The snake incident was all that ladjf Jul 2012 #97

I'm not a coward either, but I wouldn't take on an angry goose, PDJane Jul 2012 #196

Looks like the gold course management could use some large, trained dogs. nt ladjf Jul 2012 #208

Probably that dumb father did not realize RebelOne Jul 2012 #39

not to mention how much damage his brat could have done magical thyme Jul 2012 #96

THANK YOU get the red out Jul 2012 #140

I walk dogs on the Jersey City waterfront. We're in the middle of goose season right now. smokey nj Jul 2012 #45

They don't mention the child's age. surrealAmerican Jul 2012 #51

pic of goose attack. Liberal_in_LA Jul 2012 #64

This is why I just ignore my surroundings and avoid conflict. Comrade_McKenzie Jul 2012 #42

So you will ignore even a crime being committed? hobbit709 Jul 2012 #94

and maybe, just maybe, the child was just being a child, pnwest Jul 2012 #44

Touching a stranger is assault and battery obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #47

not if you're defending your child * woolldog Jul 2012 #50

defending your child from what?! frylock Jul 2012 #57

You know how TERRIFYING octogenarians can be? REP Jul 2012 #81

ha! that line could only be improved by a question mark elehhhhna Jul 2012 #82

Done! REP Jul 2012 #88

You never know, it could be this ladies mom snooper2 Jul 2012 #107

From a finger wagging?!?!?! morningfog Jul 2012 #89

Except that isn't what happened here obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #98

I got a present for you joeglow3 Jul 2012 #131

She placed her hands on the boy's neck FedUpWithIt All Jul 2012 #143

Yes, unless her action was done to prevent injury to the child Gormy Cuss Jul 2012 #209

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #73

way to keep an open mind... pnwest Jul 2012 #83

we're basing this discussion on the facts presented in the article.. frylock Jul 2012 #119

Please point out to me where I ever said shoving her pnwest Jul 2012 #124

i'm batman frylock Jul 2012 #133

This message was self-deleted by its author pnwest Jul 2012 #135

And maybe, just maybe Chorophyll Jul 2012 #115

And maybe, Dad had already told pnwest Jul 2012 #144

Actually no. Chorophyll Jul 2012 #158

OMG. Fine then St. Chorophyll, your perfect parenting record pnwest Jul 2012 #163

Okay. nt Chorophyll Jul 2012 #191

So "just being a child" means it's ok to harass wildlife? get the red out Jul 2012 #145

it's easy to teach a child to respect park animals grasswire Jul 2012 #49

When I was 4 or 5, I was chasing a robin around a vacant lot Art_from_Ark Jul 2012 #58

it's a shame there wasn't anybody there to help this man to a severe ass beating frylock Jul 2012 #52

acorn d_r Jul 2012 #54

He's not a parent theaocp Jul 2012 #56

What a classy, dignified parent Initech Jul 2012 #60

Jesus. DirkGently Jul 2012 #63

my guess as to what he said as he shoved her Enrique Jul 2012 #67

But what if the father's account was the truth? Did you read the article? progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #71

Has the father been found? Has his story been told? Does he exist? lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #75

This story is not credible. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #76

Very true. Brickbat Jul 2012 #101

So, you think the woman just fell and then invented a guy and a story? morningfog Jul 2012 #105

Maybe. I'm the only one on this thread who hasn't jumped to a conclusion. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #114

The article in the OP says there was a witness who saw the man. morningfog Jul 2012 #121

Thanks, the newly revised blog post in the OP is much more informative. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #122

Yeah, there is still not a lot out there. morningfog Jul 2012 #123

"He was described only as being in his 40s".with a clue like that who needs witnesses leftyohiolib Jul 2012 #77

Horrifying. You couldn't get away with jack shit when I was a kid. xchrom Jul 2012 #78

And this is why schools don't stop bullies. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #79

Yes, and there is always the question get the red out Jul 2012 #148

"How dare you call my perfect little angel a bully!!!!" Odin2005 Jul 2012 #200

Planet full of idiots. sarcasmo Jul 2012 #85

HOW DARE YOU TALK TO MY KID! ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2012 #91

So much for It Takes... meaculpa2011 Jul 2012 #100

According to the article she may have grabbed the boy by the neck. yellowcanine Jul 2012 #102

According to the article, the woman is suffering life-threatening injuries. morningfog Jul 2012 #104

And we don't KNOW how she got them. That is my point. yellowcanine Jul 2012 #108

Yeah, like she was going to strangle him or apply the Vulcan Nerve Pinch Lydia Leftcoast Jul 2012 #110

Well I don't know and neither do you. yellowcanine Jul 2012 #116

Maybe it's a generational difference Lydia Leftcoast Jul 2012 #168

Again, assumptions. We don't know if it was a "gentle pinch" or something worse. Just because yellowcanine Jul 2012 #173

You're taking this awfully personally... Lydia Leftcoast Jul 2012 #193

Yeah, that's a cogent argument. How I take it is irrelevant. Make an argument if you can. yellowcanine Jul 2012 #202

And what was the little 5 yr old going to do to the geese? FedUpWithIt All Jul 2012 #139

She may have been protecting the boy. We don't know. That is the point. We don't know. yellowcanine Jul 2012 #174

hope they found the guy. WI_DEM Jul 2012 #103

It's been my experience that the worse behaved a child is Lydia Leftcoast Jul 2012 #111

And it has been my experience that people make all kinds of assumptions here based on very few yellowcanine Jul 2012 #117

When daughter was 6 revolution breeze Jul 2012 #120

What would be wrong with scolding that BRAT???????? get the red out Jul 2012 #126

Seriously, nothing in the article even mentioned what the boy was actually doing to the geese FedUpWithIt All Jul 2012 #134

I'm with you on this Duer 157099 Jul 2012 #138

No! The boy viciously attacked the goose and the woman tried to stop him, causing yellowcanine Jul 2012 #182

YES get the red out Jul 2012 #141

Interesting response. FedUpWithIt All Jul 2012 #146

Maybe you should find another asshole to support get the red out Jul 2012 #150

I pointed out that the report was not clear about the cause of the woman falling FedUpWithIt All Jul 2012 #154

It certainly sounds like the father was to blame get the red out Jul 2012 #156

maybe you should Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #213

rofl!!! pnwest Jul 2012 #155

LOL.. snooper2 Jul 2012 #160

Exactly. Lot of assumptions being made with very little evidence. Having had kids of my own I yellowcanine Jul 2012 #175

It looks like this man will be able to identify the father and resolve the incident here: freshwest Jul 2012 #127

Well, how dare she tell a child to behave!!!!! WolverineDG Jul 2012 #129

Article says she had her hands on the boy's neck. FedUpWithIt All Jul 2012 #136

No get the red out Jul 2012 #142

Hate children much? FedUpWithIt All Jul 2012 #147

I don't hate children at all get the red out Jul 2012 #149

I edited to add to my last post... FedUpWithIt All Jul 2012 #151

Liberals get the red out Jul 2012 #152

So now the dad is a "big guy who beats up old ladies". Amazing. yellowcanine Jul 2012 #180

how many kids do you have snooper2 Jul 2012 #161

If I saw my kid harassing a goose LibertyLover Jul 2012 #153

I have a 4 yr old son and have raised geese. FedUpWithIt All Jul 2012 #157

If the article had been titled "Man protects 5yo from attack in park" hughee99 Jul 2012 #162

EXACTLY! Thank you! pnwest Jul 2012 #164

Of the people responding on this thread, I wonder which ones have well-behaved children and Lydia Leftcoast Jul 2012 #169

Nice ad hominem. It couldn't just be that they have a different view from you. No they must be yellowcanine Jul 2012 #179

If the shoe fits, wear it Lydia Leftcoast Jul 2012 #192

How original. I don't care who you were talking about. It was a cheap shot regardless. yellowcanine Jul 2012 #201

You don't even have to mess with a goose Ednahilda Jul 2012 #189

Messed up Ednahilda Jul 2012 #190

Has there been an update to this story yet? I'm not pnwest Jul 2012 #210

nope. the story died off after 2nd day. Liberal_in_LA Jul 2012 #211