Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

General Discussion

Showing Original Post only (View all)

Cyrano

(15,388 posts)
Wed May 3, 2017, 01:20 PM May 2017

The Civil War never ended [View all]

The media recently focused on Trump's spewing out his ignorance about the Civil War, his Andrew Jackson crap, etc.

But one issue that the media never focuses on is that the Civil War never really ended.

The main issue of the Civil War was states rights vs federalism. After all, states rights was an argument that states, in which it was okay to own slaves, could continue to hold slaves.

The North "won," sorta. The cannons stopped, but institutionalized racism continues to oppress America's black population till this very day. Call it what you will. But to me, it's nothing more but slavery "lite."

(Don't believe it? Do a count of how many white cops have been exonerated of murdering black human beings. Do a count of the number of blacks incarcerated in prison, for insanely long sentences, for possessing an ounce of weed.)

And the Republican Party, the party of today's South, and of most of the rest of rural America, are the major protectors and enforcers of institutional slavery.

Like it or not, it's the reason they keep winning elections and are today in charge of all branches of government.

I believe that the majority of Americans are not racists. And I also believe that those who are have found tactics that include gerrymandering, phony voter ID schemes, fixed voting machines, and other methods that we are not even aware of to use sleazy, gangster-like schemes to hold onto power.

So if the Civil War was about doing away with slavery, the Union lost. And so did every black human being in America.

Let me say it once again. The Civil War never ended.

31 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
The Civil War never ended [View all] Cyrano May 2017 OP
The minute they seceeded, the Confederate government CanonRay May 2017 #1
truth heaven05 May 2017 #2
I agree, and I am gratified to see this post Orrex May 2017 #3
Yes. Deniers will always exist Cyrano May 2017 #7
K&R nt The Polack MSgt May 2017 #4
Absolutely correct KT2000 May 2017 #5
I can't adjust to the existence of this denial Cyrano May 2017 #6
Strom Thurmond, Attn. Gen. Jeff Sessions, Haley Barbour, Jesse Helms oasis May 2017 #8
The fact that these men spent their lives in power Cyrano May 2017 #9
One can reasonably extend the conflict back to tribal primitivism. byronius May 2017 #10
I get your point but... zipplewrath May 2017 #11
Excellent post. nt SunSeeker May 2017 #12
The causes of the Civil War are here - Now - Today Cyrano May 2017 #14
The war is over zipplewrath May 2017 #25
Our system of racial inequality & white supremacy... countryjake May 2017 #17
I get what the OP is saying mountain grammy May 2017 #24
Sure feels like it, my friend. calimary May 2017 #13
"The main issue of the Civil War was states rights vs federalism"... oldcynic May 2017 #15
I don't know if we agree about your Cyrano May 2017 #16
Message deleted by DU the Administrators kydo May 2017 #18
kydo, you said "slavery was about money" Cyrano May 2017 #20
Message deleted by DU the Administrators kydo May 2017 #21
The South won the propaganda war. Archae May 2017 #19
Good post malaise May 2017 #22
I just watched "Mississippi Burning" . . . HughBeaumont May 2017 #23
No Civil War on the planet ever ends Yavin4 May 2017 #26
Yes. Exactly. Cyrano May 2017 #29
It's driven by the need for vengance Yavin4 May 2017 #30
I read a commentary a few years ago to the same affect sweetloukillbot May 2017 #27
That actually became apparent when Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act. Many of thel Southern still_one May 2017 #28
The dependence on cheap labor is also a remnant of slavery surely? BSdetect May 2017 #31
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»The Civil War never ended