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Freddie

(9,231 posts)
5. Just my personal opinion
Fri May 5, 2017, 11:57 PM
May 2017

The time to be a purist is the primary. After that, ANY Dem is better then any Repug, period.

You Own It! Stallion May 2017 #1
'Scuse me? Are you having some heartburn over there? Hekate May 2017 #15
Same here. Littlered9560 May 2017 #76
Maher wants to identify as a liberal, and he is not. Hortensis May 2017 #239
Tell.It.Bill. Stinky The Clown May 2017 #2
Same here. This was spot on!! No longer a fan- he lost me Alice11111 May 2017 #112
that was her purpose in running. IMHO demigoddess May 2017 #150
Yeah, another Putin Puppet Alice11111 May 2017 #165
Same here! BlueMTexpat May 2017 #175
Completely agree! Freddie May 2017 #3
+++ agree iluvtennis May 2017 #53
I'm a big proponent of Instant Runoff Voting, but I agree, until we get it, a third party Jno_Gilmor_ May 2017 #61
There will never be a third party under our system...not now not ever. Demsrule86 May 2017 #73
But a third party will never arise without votes... Baconator May 2017 #117
Our Constitution doesn't allow coalition governments so all a 3rd party does Fresh_Start May 2017 #127
I often wonder if both parties would ever split... Baconator May 2017 #129
!!! Alice11111 May 2017 #152
The way I like to put it is that the Greens want to be the lefty party in parliament... JHB May 2017 #86
Good point Freddie May 2017 #90
Aye we are a two party system unless of course there is a constitutional amendment that bars cstanleytech May 2017 #203
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2017 #4
Just my personal opinion Freddie May 2017 #5
Exactly. RandySF May 2017 #6
+1 dalton99a May 2017 #12
I've been a yellow dog dem all of my life. Any dem over any repug, anytime! demosincebirth May 2017 #13
a yellow Labrador is better than Raul Labrador crazycatlady May 2017 #252
Yes. Exactly. aquamarina May 2017 #16
Amen, Freddie. Since 1968 I vote left in the primaries and for the DEMOCRAT thereafter... Hekate May 2017 #19
That makes sense. Vote for whomever you want until it's Alice11111 May 2017 #115
It really is this simple! B Stieg May 2017 #25
I always thought that this was just a given. nocalflea May 2017 #59
Yeah me too. If your Dem primary choice doesn't get to go to the big dance.... Bengus81 May 2017 #89
This is what I have learned as well. susanna May 2017 #221
The election was stolen by Russia for Trump. 50 Shades Of Blue May 2017 #7
Stein was also a factor in key states. RandySF May 2017 #11
And who else likes the Russians a whole lot? Chellee May 2017 #38
Keep pointing it out! I did above too. She should also be Alice11111 May 2017 #119
+1 Chellee May 2017 #142
STEIN TOOK VOTES FROM KEY STATES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU TELL 'EM BILL! For those of you Upthevibe May 2017 #44
Thank you for the REALITY CHECK, Upthevibe! Cha May 2017 #50
Both of them rot in hell...Nader and Stein...that is what Alice11111 May 2017 #131
As for me, susanna May 2017 #224
They had a lots of help..... Historic NY May 2017 #94
No doubt, there were many factors. Nonetheless, somehow Alice11111 May 2017 #134
+1000000! SammyWinstonJack May 2017 #106
it wasn't the russians. the only reason trump was acceptable and certainot May 2017 #114
You're right, of course. Ligyron May 2017 #125
at minimum rw radio/trump connection needs to get polled certainot May 2017 #133
We need to be careful making a big deal about right wing frankieallen May 2017 #178
ignoring it has been the biggest political mistake in history certainot May 2017 #223
You have a point there crazycatlady May 2017 #250
There were MANY factors. You cite one, though a huge one. Alice11111 May 2017 #128
Those who LIED and got Suckers to Vote 3rd Party own Cha May 2017 #219
Do you think they actually care? nycbos May 2017 #8
Do you think they actually care? LenaBaby61 May 2017 #41
!!! They don't care one whit. Yes, Stein gobble up for Putin Alice11111 May 2017 #136
Good point. nocalflea May 2017 #58
No they don't give a shit if the Planet is going to hell.. it's Cha May 2017 #220
Maher certainly nailed that one. Good for him for saying it. LonePirate May 2017 #9
Good for you, Bill Maher! murielm99 May 2017 #10
I'm usually luke warm over Maher ProudLib72 May 2017 #14
He's a comedian oberliner May 2017 #80
Like Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, etc.? maddiemom May 2017 #109
Exactly oberliner May 2017 #160
If you're missing leftynyc May 2017 #163
Samantha Bee is a new favorite of mine oberliner May 2017 #168
Your trying too hard to make an incorrect point. stevenleser May 2017 #211
Watch the John Stewart clip on Crossfire oberliner May 2017 #225
I've watched it dozens of times over the years. I know what he said. stevenleser May 2017 #231
So you are on the Tucker Carlson side of that particular debate oberliner May 2017 #244
Nope, I'm not. You're on the discounting Stewart side of the debate. nt stevenleser May 2017 #248
You wrote this: "He also doth protest too much if he says his comments are only comedy." oberliner May 2017 #255
Nope, it's not what Carlson said or implied at all. nt stevenleser May 2017 #258
It is nearly verbatim what he said oberliner May 2017 #265
I can empathize with your desire to minimize and trivialize the accuracy of satire. LanternWaste May 2017 #249
Thank you oberliner May 2017 #256
Shoot, if all you wanted was empathy for being wrong we could have cut this convo short. nt stevenleser May 2017 #262
Everyone is entitled to their opinion oberliner May 2017 #264
I think it's important to remember leftynyc May 2017 #243
If the youth are getting their political analysis from comedians than we are in trouble oberliner May 2017 #245
If those are my choices leftynyc May 2017 #247
But it's not funny if it's not true. betsuni May 2017 #251
Maher nailed it here. Well said. You are right, Maher has problems Alice11111 May 2017 #139
If you did not vote at all you are to blame just as much as if you voted for tRump! BigmanPigman May 2017 #17
Definitely a factor, but I bet almost all people here voted. Alice11111 May 2017 #140
K&R. Not a Maher fan, but he hit it out of the park with this one lunamagica May 2017 #18
+1000 smirkymonkey May 2017 #22
!!! Alice11111 May 2017 #141
It's a righteous, fact-filled rant--everyone should view this clip. spooky3 May 2017 #20
Purism in politics never works. hrmjustin May 2017 #21
I Don't Understand Why a Self Proclaimed Liberal Would Have a Problem with HRC Leith May 2017 #23
I can explain how I feel about Hillary. Bluepinky May 2017 #84
I Didn't Like That Vote, Either Leith May 2017 #108
You aren't speaking for me, I don't whine about anything. Bluepinky May 2017 #110
I Wasn't Speaking for You Leith May 2017 #122
You asked why any liberal would have a problem with Hillary Clinton. Bluepinky May 2017 #138
Congratulations. athena May 2017 #179
I did vote for Hillary, can't you read? Bluepinky May 2017 #195
There was a motivated group of people... Baconator May 2017 #121
Yeah, the RW had already written Articles of Impeachment Alice11111 May 2017 #144
And as usual...... Glamrock May 2017 #24
I do, to. I like his style of acerbic wit. It's why I love Russell Brand, WinkyDink May 2017 #75
Spot on Lotusflower70 May 2017 #26
I don't think Manly_Scream May 2017 #37
Welcome to DU, Manly_Scream! calimary May 2017 #45
Well they can sit home knowing if they get sick or have an accident as my cousing did, Demsrule86 May 2017 #71
Mahar endorsed Nader over Gore in 2000. John1956PA May 2017 #27
That was a shit for brains move Mz Pip May 2017 #31
He apologized directly to Gore. VOX May 2017 #39
Thanks for the link, but Maher should have made a strong apology to Gore voters. John1956PA May 2017 #78
He said "I was wrong" and "I fucked up". You really need more of an apology? Bucky May 2017 #159
Apparently he should have crawled naked over over broken glass... VOX May 2017 #207
Maher never apologized to those of us who voted for Gore. John1956PA May 2017 #215
You'll be alright BannonsLiver May 2017 #234
Couldn't agree more! Mickju May 2017 #28
Welcome to DU, Mickju! calimary May 2017 #49
The candidate barely matters at all Awsi Dooger May 2017 #29
I have often wondered myself... chillfactor May 2017 #30
Hell yes. cwydro May 2017 #32
If anyone was advocating voting 3rd party or not voting for Hillary in the general, they were Warren DeMontague May 2017 #33
Yes they did break the rules and hence Cha May 2017 #52
At least one said she wrote in Bernie's name, and she is still here. n/t R B Garr May 2017 #105
He's right, of course. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #34
The Other Side Of The Coin DallasNE May 2017 #145
Are we talking about the same Jill Stein? Warren DeMontague May 2017 #177
There are NO Liberal Purists JI7 May 2017 #35
Yeah, that's a misnomer.. profiteers. Those who looked Cha May 2017 #54
Nearly 45% didn't bother to vote. Mz Pip May 2017 #36
"Purism," I agree was a big problem, but I actually think apathy and disengament probably played a Jno_Gilmor_ May 2017 #63
Maher was absolutely right world wide wally May 2017 #40
I am so glad Maher can say in public what so many feel in private DFW May 2017 #42
The DNC should never have put Cornel West on the platform LisaM May 2017 #43
Amen! Thank you! He was very damaging. I can't stand his smugness... NurseJackie May 2017 #87
how come Purists never support anyone who is Pure ? JI7 May 2017 #46
Really! Damn Good question... about the furthest Cha May 2017 #48
Amen!!! uponit7771 May 2017 #67
+1 betsuni May 2017 #68
Ed Snowden was stupid to tweet that.. is that why he Cha May 2017 #47
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow May 2017 #51
Is it just me or... OliverQ May 2017 #55
no, bill is right. JI7 May 2017 #56
"Purists" won't go for "lesser of two evils" Freddie May 2017 #65
Exactly. athena May 2017 #180
No, it means that the two choices you have are both evil. betsuni May 2017 #66
In this case with Trump's position, he was clearly the worst choice...and those who voted for him Demsrule86 May 2017 #74
Anyone using "the lesser of two evils" in the last election is out of their minds, as Maher said. betsuni May 2017 #77
No we can fix this...our kids are counting on us...they want us demoralized but we will not be. Demsrule86 May 2017 #123
I've heard the 'lesser of two evils' argument for years Trumpocalypse May 2017 #95
No. He's referring to the bullshit false equivalency Adrahil May 2017 #146
Exactly what I think bdjhawk May 2017 #57
+ 1000 Thanks Bill njhoneybadger May 2017 #60
Thinking a Democratic president in 2017 would be a "neoliberal disaster" betsuni May 2017 #62
Noam Chomsky was right, "Progressives who refused to vote for Hillary Clinton made a bad mistake" still_one May 2017 #64
maher is 100% correct...those who wouldn't support the lesser of 2 evils GAVE AMERICA REAL EVIL beachbum bob May 2017 #69
BOB idiots, JPR idiots and Stein supporters helped to elect trump Gothmog May 2017 #70
In fact they were Trump supporters...and we saw Jilly all cozy with Putin...bet she took money from Demsrule86 May 2017 #72
The only good thing about JPR cwydro May 2017 #82
+1, I looked at that site the other day and they are pointing fingers at each other for R B Garr May 2017 #98
OMG Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2017 #237
Thank you Bill Maher Progressive dog May 2017 #79
Jill Stein and Cornel West are still speaking out against HRC and Democrats oberliner May 2017 #81
So do you folks really think WellDarn May 2017 #83
There were both. Trumpocalypse May 2017 #96
That is true WellDarn May 2017 #103
The fact is that the disloyal lefties had organized campaigns that promoted boycotting R B Garr May 2017 #111
Regardless WellDarn May 2017 #118
Because they had an ORGANIZED CAMPAIGN to BOYCOTT. And it was all for vanity R B Garr May 2017 #120
Are you being serious? WellDarn May 2017 #135
It looks like you are the one not being serious. There were only R B Garr May 2017 #137
I was expecting that straw man earlier WellDarn May 2017 #153
There were 70,000 to 80,000 people who decided this election. It's obvious you're R B Garr May 2017 #154
Whatever WellDarn May 2017 #155
Read what Bill Maher said*. It's on this thread you're posting on. R B Garr May 2017 #161
Absolutely WellDarn May 2017 #166
Those people and their followers are the exact target of Maher's diatribe, R B Garr May 2017 #169
In Michigan Jill Stein got 51,643 votes. Hillary lost by 10,614. tinrobot May 2017 #101
See post 99 n/t WellDarn May 2017 #102
I never understood why the "but but but others were also at fault" argument is ever taken seriously. BzaDem May 2017 #185
Do you wonder why the WellDarn May 2017 #227
By the way WellDarn May 2017 #85
Ratfucker Snowden, ratfucker Stein, the BoBs can all go to hell. we can do it May 2017 #88
I wish the ones who "hang out" here would leave. Seriously... why are they here? NurseJackie May 2017 #91
They need a break from Twitter Chevy May 2017 #143
Maher is Right dlk May 2017 #92
+1 Historic NY May 2017 #93
Maher nailed this one. Trumpocalypse May 2017 #97
As long as the blame game is so popular WellDarn May 2017 #99
An assertion that one can identify other parties with guilt does not make one innocent. NNadir May 2017 #170
I'm with Maher on this. yardwork May 2017 #100
I'm with Maher on this. LenaBaby61 May 2017 #149
While we're at it, let's not let the "responsible" Republicans off the hook... JHB May 2017 #104
K & r. This hit all my anger and rage buttons. N/t bronxiteforever May 2017 #107
I like the "organically grown cucumber." I'll steal that line. I have felt this way going back... NNadir May 2017 #113
Oh yay more liberal bashing from Maher JonLP24 May 2017 #116
Sometimes the truth makes people uncomfortable BannonsLiver May 2017 #235
I really have no idea who these people JonLP24 May 2017 #238
Well, yeah, you can blame the voters if you want . . FairWinds May 2017 #124
Really??? missingthebigdog May 2017 #156
The establishment Dems lost everywhere . . FairWinds May 2017 #158
So if Hillary had campaigned better missingthebigdog May 2017 #162
I'll be glad to tell you more . . FairWinds May 2017 #171
It appears that your issue is not with the HRC campaign, missingthebigdog May 2017 #172
you would have rather she lied? JHan May 2017 #174
but feingold who is opposed to free trade got less support than hillary JI7 May 2017 #194
Like Russ Feingold? n/t BzaDem May 2017 #186
feingold got less votes than hillary JI7 May 2017 #193
+1 Kahuna7 May 2017 #226
LOL! NurseJackie May 2017 #164
You folks do understand that you are engaging in . . FairWinds May 2017 #228
It is magical thinking to conclude that progressives who didn't vote HRC are on our side missingthebigdog May 2017 #230
I'm not sure what to make of people who vote (or don't vote) based on... NurseJackie May 2017 #232
Thank You. missingthebigdog May 2017 #240
ROFL NurseJackie May 2017 #233
So it never crosses your mind . . FairWinds May 2017 #236
You don't seem to understand.. the FUs are to the Cha May 2017 #242
What would you have done differently? George II May 2017 #254
He went to far last night re Ivanka Johnny2X2X May 2017 #126
Yeah, how would anyone get that impression? RandySF May 2017 #132
"It was appalling what that he implied Ivanka is sexually involved with her father." LenaBaby61 May 2017 #148
As Steve Martin once said... PJMcK May 2017 #189
Sorry Johnny2X2X May 2017 #197
And yet Donald Trump took us there PJMcK May 2017 #205
it was Trump himself who talked about how hot his daughter is and dating her JI7 May 2017 #217
Maher nailed it! It is time for the "purists" to own it then do something about it. democratisphere May 2017 #130
K&R!! n/t DemSoc May 2017 #147
I wish he would invite Susan Sarandon on to tell her this. SaschaHM May 2017 #151
He's right. I call it the "Ralph Nader Syndrome." Honeycombe8 May 2017 #157
Just the other day I was arguing with someone... right HERE... who still believes that. NurseJackie May 2017 #167
Disagree 100% ptownbro May 2017 #173
Agree 100% kevink077 May 2017 #176
Very few situations in life are black and white binary issues, this is one of them Snake Plissken May 2017 #181
Post removed Post removed May 2017 #182
" But really doesn't matter. And here's why. It doesn't matter which party occupies the presidency." demosincebirth May 2017 #187
Missed the gravity... DownriverDem May 2017 #183
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2017 #184
Nice way to unite liberal and centrist dems together...Not gyroscope May 2017 #188
People who didn't vote for Clinton are not liberals. DanTex May 2017 #190
Clinton didn't do herself any favors by constantly insulting them gyroscope May 2017 #191
Where is the link to back up this assertion. 6000eliot May 2017 #192
Clinton didn't insult anyone except for racist right-wingers. DanTex May 2017 #196
Post removed Post removed May 2017 #198
I Voted For Hillary CitizenZero May 2017 #200
if they didn't vote then they must be basement dwellers and not progressive JI7 May 2017 #202
That's a lie. As the article said, she expressed sympathy for millenials who still live with their DanTex May 2017 #204
She could have simply said that due to the recession gyroscope May 2017 #206
That was in a private email. Which was hacked by Russia. DanTex May 2017 #212
Are you fucking serious? JHan May 2017 #214
No Maher has it right.. those who LIED to get Cha May 2017 #218
You're actually calling Bill Maher a centrist? Now that's funny. betsuni May 2017 #222
Bill is 100% correct.n/t Lil Missy May 2017 #199
Maher is correct. Beacool May 2017 #201
Okay, so in going forward, because that's all we can do, what good is the blame game? YOHABLO May 2017 #208
Sorry not gonna pile on a rec... jimlup May 2017 #209
Post removed Post removed May 2017 #210
Uh huh JHan May 2017 #213
Hillary is like the ACA - HughBeaumont May 2017 #216
Agree with Bill 1,000% NastyRiffraff May 2017 #229
Same here. We need to tell the purist to go away and stay away. Blue_true May 2017 #241
Greenwald ain't gonna like this... Blue_Tires May 2017 #246
Maher is making sense here Gothmog May 2017 #253
Bill Maher is entirely welcome to go fuck himself with a cactus... WoonTars May 2017 #257
Yeah, it's not as funny when you try to repeat someone else's joke that we have been discussing. nt stevenleser May 2017 #259
I'm sorry, is that directed at me, or at the part-time liberal Bill Maher... WoonTars May 2017 #261
Since he said it first and you said it second, you do the math. nt stevenleser May 2017 #263
You should write things more clearly so people can understand WoonTars May 2017 #266
You are the only one who has ever had an issue. nt stevenleser May 2017 #267
I highly doubt that! Thank goodness you don't do it professionally!! WoonTars May 2017 #268
Or with the gearshift from a Corvair, since he endorsed Nader over Gore in 2000. n/t John1956PA May 2017 #260
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