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In reply to the discussion: Delta Airlines kicks family off flight, lies about FAA regulations, threatens foster-care [View all]forthemiddle
(1,379 posts)121. I have looked at a lot of reports
And I have not actually seen that they had a boarding pass, just that he paid for a ticket. Do you have the link that they checked in, and had a boarding pass?
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Delta Airlines kicks family off flight, lies about FAA regulations, threatens foster-care [View all]
DetlefK
May 2017
OP
The family had gone through multiple check in points and that ticket was accepted.
pnwmom
May 2017
#6
Are you saying that the family had already changed to name on the ticket to the 2 year old?
HoneyBadger
May 2017
#7
Yup. If they get through all the checkpoints including TSA and get seated in the plane,
pnwmom
May 2017
#16
Their records showed it because the parents had already explained it to the gate crew and had gotten
pnwmom
May 2017
#123
Just to be clear, you are advising that one can just purchase a bunch of airlines tickets under
HoneyBadger
May 2017
#5
No, I'm saying FAA regulations give the airlines some flexibility on this, and anyone with a BRAIN
pnwmom
May 2017
#8
Was the ticket in the name of the 18 year old? Is that an adult? Perhaps that triggers an ID check?
HoneyBadger
May 2017
#13
Since the FAA allowed it, why should airline employees not be human and use common sense?
pnwmom
May 2017
#15
The airlines NEVER check ID's of ANY 2 year olds. Thank goodness our TSA insanity
pnwmom
May 2017
#42
What Airline do you work for? If I buy a ticket...any member of my family should be able to sit in
Demsrule86
May 2017
#18
That is untrue...I read multiple stories...and they had a ticket purchased for another family member
Demsrule86
May 2017
#17
The sub was their BABY, FGS. Hardly terrorist material. "Overboard"? Threatening
WinkyDink
May 2017
#21
Delta waited till they knew they had a stand-by person who would pay them for the seat.
pnwmom
May 2017
#37
ok . . . not disputing that - but Delta was within their rights to assign that seat to a standby
DrDan
May 2017
#40
They were within their legal rights -- but they ALSO would have been legally able to allow
pnwmom
May 2017
#45
I have no idea what point you are trying to make re seat size. But airlines change their
DrDan
May 2017
#52
and the family could haved tried to transfer the ticket to the infant - they didn't
DrDan
May 2017
#80
That was the only reason for Delta to make this choice. They had already been paid for this seat
pnwmom
May 2017
#86
No, just not smart enough to contact the gate crew. Either that or the gate crew
pnwmom
May 2017
#98
They could have contacted the gate to say, "this family says that they told you they wanted
pnwmom
May 2017
#125
how would anyone know there was a dispute until the stand-by got on the plane and went to his/her
DrDan
May 2017
#129
It's clear from the video. The standby wasn't on the plane yet! So the gate crew
pnwmom
May 2017
#132
How could you determine that from the video? The standby could be anywhere - perhaps
DrDan
May 2017
#133
He wasn't visible anywhere. And the airline has NOT disputed the parents' account
pnwmom
May 2017
#134
but you are avoiding my question - how did they determine there was an issue if the
DrDan
May 2017
#135
But my account accords with what is visible and what can be heard, and the parents undisputed story.
pnwmom
May 2017
#141
not trying to explain why they handled it the way they did - I faulted them for that
DrDan
May 2017
#142
My scenarios are consistent with the known facts, unlike yours, which depend on an invisible standby
pnwmom
May 2017
#146
says the person who states no standby could have boarded because I did not see one on the video
DrDan
May 2017
#148
You're misstating the facts once again. I never stated I was convinced that the standby was a Delta
pnwmom
May 2017
#149
You're still dodging the question of Deltas lies to the family. Are you fine with that, too? n/t
pnwmom
May 2017
#92
But Delta ACCEPTED the contract deviation and BOARDED them. Too late for bureacracy then. nt
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2017
#23
Doesn't matter. Delta didn't have to be so greedy. The FAA regs gave them flexibility
pnwmom
May 2017
#47
Not true. That was Delta's policy, but the FAA allows substitutions of passengers.
pnwmom
May 2017
#35
The cabin crew could have notified the gate that the family had a 2 year old in the seat,
pnwmom
May 2017
#63
not sure what that has to do with the issue at hand - the seat assigned to the 18 year old who did
DrDan
May 2017
#115
they were wrong in their comments to the family - not in their assignment of seats
DrDan
May 2017
#62
It's not rocket science. If you board a customer through the gate, it's too late for bureaucracy.
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2017
#22
they would not have been kicked off had they flown as they were ticketed - the infant as a lap baby
DrDan
May 2017
#28
The family changed their mind about having the 2 year old as a lap baby and that's why
pnwmom
May 2017
#106
make all the assumptions you like - but the seat was reserve in his older son't name - the older son
DrDan
May 2017
#113
Yet the airline has not disputed the parents account of the incident,, which was that the seat
pnwmom
May 2017
#124
you can put the rules in any context you like - but when you purchase a ticket for airline travel
DrDan
May 2017
#46
Delta had the legal flexibility to allow the parents to use that seat for the toddler and carseat.
pnwmom
May 2017
#51
They hadn't boarded the stand-by passenger yet, so they could have un-assigned it,
pnwmom
May 2017
#76
The only ridiculous act is the rampant authoritarianism you apparently endorse
kristopher
May 2017
#81
So you don't consider belief structures to be real and subject to examination and discussion?
kristopher
May 2017
#95
Hilariously, one of the main Delta apologists was screaming about corporatists during the primary
SaschaHM
May 2017
#130
They handed over the son's ticket for the 2 year old. And the FAA allows substitutions,
pnwmom
May 2017
#39
They ALL have the option to. They decided to hang onto their own policy no matter what,
pnwmom
May 2017
#54
The standby passenger didn't have to be kicked off. He was still at the gate. He could have been
pnwmom
May 2017
#102
And it was allowed by FAA regulations, which allow substitutions and only require
pnwmom
May 2017
#79
Wow. I hope you wrote to the airline about that experience. That would be unnerving. n/t
pnwmom
May 2017
#105
I didn't know about it because it happened on the morning flight and I was told about it on the
Jim Beard
May 2017
#154
Seems like all of these airlines need to do a better job training
The Velveteen Ocelot
May 2017
#131
Great new video game idea: Sim-Airline, for people who love to torture other people. n/t
Binkie The Clown
May 2017
#152