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muriel_volestrangler

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156. Then it seems to me you've joined the wrong thread

Sun May 7, 2017, 06:39 AM

May 2017

You made a comment about "the media" which you've just said is totally irrelevant. You shouldn't be making comments about the media, or about Sanders. Just about what is happening in Congress, or, I suppose, Trump's executive orders.

I'm glad to see you're saying you will never comment from now on about what Trump says. Is that a new thing, or have you always managed to never comment on what he says?

But Sanders is pointing out that what Trump said about Australia having a better system is true. We all agree with Sanders on that. He's pointing out that Trump is, once again, being hypocritical - saying one thing, and doing another. Many people think that pointing out your opponents' hypocrisy and inconsistency is worth doing. I think we are capable of doing both that and opposing the actions of Trump and the Republicans in general. You're saying you can't manage that; but I think you don't need to worry about other people doing it.

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Sanders: 'Trump is right' on Australian healthcare system [View all] OxQQme May 2017 OP

Bernie should have said that Trump clearly doesn't joeybee12 May 2017 #1

I heard that whole exchange. Cherry picking that piece of it here seems problematic, given that he JCanete May 2017 #2

Ya, not what he said but that won't stop the Bernie bashers Arazi May 2017 #6

Hope that gets a few more people to look into the care most advanced nations provide Tom Rinaldo May 2017 #3

Looks like he didn't get very far with that army. ucrdem May 2017 #4

You mean the effort to mobilize constituents to contact their senators? TCJ70 May 2017 #13

Yes. Didn't get very far did it. nt ucrdem May 2017 #68

The senate hasn't done anything yet so we don't really know... TCJ70 May 2017 #94

Exactly. Bernie said on Thursday Republicans celebrated voting to let people die. beam me up scottie May 2017 #95

We know. Schumer got out there on Thursday with the Democratic message: ucrdem May 2017 #96

What exactly is he doing? The article doesn't say. Ninsianna May 2017 #107

Oh f*&king dear. OnDoutside May 2017 #5

The Republicans went eight years without saying a single nice thing about President Obama, athena May 2017 #7

Oh for goodness sake! KPN May 2017 #9

It's performance art. Hassin Bin Sober May 2017 #15

+1 beam me up scottie May 2017 #20

Exactly. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #37

I don't get how this is even an issue... Jno_Gilmor_ May 2017 #119

Here's how for starters: ucrdem May 2017 #123

Bernie is right but the Trump voters will only see treestar May 2017 #167

Not just Trump voters, everyone, including Dem Senators ucrdem May 2017 #205

BS normalizing trump again.. he can't stop. Cha May 2017 #17

LOL! beam me up scottie May 2017 #18

If only Dr. Pavlov had had DU, QC May 2017 #22

*snort* beam me up scottie May 2017 #23

Nothing here is funny. BainsBane May 2017 #78

Right, and some around these parts find that a joking matter. George II May 2017 #79

You're right. Internet 'outrage' about quotes taken out of context isn't funny. beam me up scottie May 2017 #81

Something that often comes to mind lately... opiate69 May 2017 #84

LOLOLOL! Perfect! beam me up scottie May 2017 #86

I can't even keep track of how many quotes of his are supposedly taken out of context. BainsBane May 2017 #89

Oh my goodness yes. It's all Very Concerning. beam me up scottie May 2017 #92

It happens multiple times a month BainsBane May 2017 #100

Actually this is what I responded to: beam me up scottie May 2017 #101

! opiate69 May 2017 #105

Ha! beam me up scottie May 2017 #106

That you chose to ignore the quesiton about healthcare BainsBane May 2017 #145

Yes yes, I know - this is an OUTRAGE! I'm supposed to be ANGRY! About...something or other. beam me up scottie May 2017 #147

Hey there, welcome to DU, BainsBane! countryjake May 2017 #149

#unity! beam me up scottie May 2017 #151

It's the "OPTICS". "Sanders: trump is right".. Cha May 2017 #109

Seriously. Suddenly optics aren't a concern at all BainsBane May 2017 #110

President Obama is giving a speech @ Cantor-Fitzgerald Cha May 2017 #111

FYI-BS' tweet: "President Trump is right" Cha May 2017 #126

What context am I supposedly missing? BainsBane May 2017 #131

Exactly.. the take away from the BS vid is trump with a big shit eating grin on his ugly face.. Cha May 2017 #135

The video doesn't play BainsBane May 2017 #139

Bains the video is in the tweet: ucrdem May 2017 #141

Why are there even videos? BainsBane May 2017 #146

I had to use Google Chrome to see Cha May 2017 #142

Yes, I agree. Instead of criticizing him for his evil health plan he starts out by saying smirkymonkey May 2017 #161

The can't seem to grasp it. Littlered9560 May 2017 #153

+1,000,000 Jno_Gilmor_ May 2017 #120

When they've got no argument, it's all they can do. kcr May 2017 #195

Ha! Lol. Hassin Bin Sober May 2017 #34

LOL@look who's talking. Cha May 2017 #52

. opiate69 May 2017 #53

No you don't. Cha May 2017 #54

Is There An Age Requirement For DU? Me. May 2017 #91

lol.. Thank you, Me! Cha May 2017 #97

Profound sheshe2 May 2017 #56

yeah... opiate69 May 2017 #57

Indeed. beam me up scottie May 2017 #58

Tandem sheshe2 May 2017 #63

Uh-huh... wait, are you the person I was originally replying to? opiate69 May 2017 #71

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! QC May 2017 #197

... sheshe2 May 2017 #61

... beam me up scottie May 2017 #64

Well done! beam me up scottie May 2017 #65

I'm just so glad my kids grew out of that phase... opiate69 May 2017 #72

My little brother finally grew out of it when he hit junior high. beam me up scottie May 2017 #74

Post removed Post removed May 2017 #26

All you have are insults. Cha May 2017 #28

Yes, exactly. ucrdem May 2017 #67

It's the sound byte.. Cha May 2017 #69

Birds of a feather ucrdem May 2017 #77

Right.. all of a sudden "context" matters. Cha May 2017 #87

Are we really doing anything of value here? KPN May 2017 #170

His interview on Chris Hayes' show, Thursday... countryjake May 2017 #8

That was a thing of beauty! demmiblue May 2017 #25

He looks genuinely happy and he says "thank you Mr. President" twice. ucrdem May 2017 #50

IF any one from the Democratic party is on the Sunday shows tomorrow kacekwl May 2017 #75

All of the network's nightly news repeated Trump's gaffe ... countryjake May 2017 #99

That was masterful, wasn't it? Thanks for posting it again. beam me up scottie May 2017 #98

Yup. The media is having a field day with Trump's comment ... countryjake May 2017 #102

You're exactly right - the media is having a field day with Trump's faux pas. beam me up scottie May 2017 #103

Did you even read the whole article? Did you hear his interview with Chris Hayes? KPN May 2017 #10

This is how you make a point. surrealAmerican May 2017 #11

This is how you give Trump supporters the impression that he is bipartisan athena May 2017 #19

wtf? WTF? how on earth did you come to that conclusion? Trump lauds something, presumably JCanete May 2017 #114

+1000 kacekwl May 2017 #177

BS' Tweet on "Trump is Right".. Cha May 2017 #143

if Sanders said "I Love Republicans making statements that prove themselves wrong" Warren DeMontague May 2017 #12

(stealing gif from pinkocommiewingnutbrobottroll) countryjake May 2017 #14

That's mister pinkocommiewingnutbrobottroll to you! Warren DeMontague May 2017 #35

. Hassin Bin Sober May 2017 #16

Everybody run around and scream! beam me up scottie May 2017 #21

Zoinks!! opiate69 May 2017 #24

But he KNOWS they will do this and should be more artful about it.... bettyellen May 2017 #29

I thought Bernie nailed it, actually. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #36

No "president Trump is right" is not true. He accidentally praised another nation's policies... bettyellen May 2017 #38

Come on. You're better than this. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #39

Everyone will shorten that clip, it's what they do. While you and I know what he was bettyellen May 2017 #41

I'm pretty sure the only "discord" of that type around this clip, will be here on DU. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #44

I wish. My friends are talking about it. And I didn't bring it up. Effing DT bettyellen May 2017 #104

Precisely and it is a "shitty headline". Cha May 2017 #90

BS Tweet on "trump is right".. Cha May 2017 #144

It isn't that hard. But Bernie can do no wrong n/t kcr May 2017 #196

But, that's not reality based. Cha May 2017 #212

Oy, the sound bites.... he's gotta know this quote would happen. Ugh. bettyellen May 2017 #27

Yes.. he can't help himself. Cha May 2017 #30

He probably thinks all his fans are perfect progressives and "get" how snark.... bettyellen May 2017 #33

come on...did you hear it in context? ANY fucking thing can be taken out of context. nt JCanete May 2017 #112

Noun-verb- noun is pretty much all they want for a headline. We can't call it fake news.' bettyellen May 2017 #164

reporters are spinning it more because it is pissing some of us in the Democratic base. WE should be JCanete May 2017 #166

No- they are repeating a full sentence he tweeted. Why wouldn't they? It sounds controversial... bettyellen May 2017 #169

when the media is that blatant, JCanete May 2017 #171

The media has always even that blatant. This is no surprise at all. It really makes me wonder. bettyellen May 2017 #172

It isn't a surprise...its sad that we let it be this way. nt JCanete May 2017 #175

It makes it harder to fight the idea of fake news - when we employ full sentences of snark.... bettyellen May 2017 #176

I refuse to accept that there arent different ways to attack these issues and that snark and making JCanete May 2017 #181

I don't think it's fake as much as it will be used to promote Trump... bettyellen May 2017 #182

I don't know what's not fake about pretending something was meant that wasn't. That is a lie, JCanete May 2017 #184

I think a lot of people (including the media) cannot face how bad Trump is- bettyellen May 2017 #185

Regarding Sanders statement, we simply disagree then. Regarding the media, yes there is an JCanete May 2017 #187

I don't think it's fake as much as it is a distraction from what congress is doing.... bettyellen May 2017 #188

sorry to belabor, but again, why is lying not fake? "Technically not lying" is still lying if JCanete May 2017 #189

It's not a lie to say he claimed "Trump is right". Quoting Him isn't quite lying... bettyellen May 2017 #192

Bernie's quick riff is A-OK and fine in context.... VOX May 2017 #31

Only if one bothers to understand the context. athena May 2017 #32

Even if they don't, isn't it true that Australia has better healthcare than the U.S.? VOX May 2017 #49

... Warren DeMontague May 2017 #40

... beam me up scottie May 2017 #42

!!! opiate69 May 2017 #43

And who could forget Warren DeMontague May 2017 #45

Long live the Hoff! opiate69 May 2017 #47

The Hoff! beam me up scottie May 2017 #48

MMMMMMM... Behind the Aegis May 2017 #46

Since everyone says the media keeps taking him out of context BainsBane May 2017 #51

Exactly Bains.. Thank You! Cha May 2017 #55

Your last paragraph. sheshe2 May 2017 #59

I don't know if cutting him with his own words... moriah May 2017 #60

How does praising him help? BainsBane May 2017 #66

If you consider it praise... I didn't read it that way. moriah May 2017 #70

I'm not interested in excuses BainsBane May 2017 #76

I wonder if he'll ever call trump "distasteful" or "weak and disappointing"? George II May 2017 #85

You know, I can't claim to know what he says BainsBane May 2017 #93

Thank you, Bains Hekate May 2017 #108

in context BainsBane, it is bashing Trump for being a stopped clock and getting something right JCanete May 2017 #113

Good question BainsBane May 2017 #130

I'll leave my response to the second part for another time. I appreciate you being thoughtful and JCanete May 2017 #165

Your point about simple narratives is an important one BainsBane May 2017 #194

+1, Bernie said "Trump is right" because what he meant was "Bernie is right" R B Garr May 2017 #173

Charles Manson is probably right about something on occasion too BainsBane May 2017 #138

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Exactly. The context is the video - that's why it's INCLUDED in the tweet. beam me up scottie May 2017 #152

Is it the media taking him out of context? It looks like fanatical anti-Bernie people to me muriel_volestrangler May 2017 #154

The context is the deaths that will result from ACHA BainsBane May 2017 #155

Then it seems to me you've joined the wrong thread muriel_volestrangler May 2017 #156

Nailed it. beam me up scottie May 2017 #157

That is because I took on face value the claim he was taken out of context. BainsBane May 2017 #160

OK, we'll look at what the tweet says: muriel_volestrangler May 2017 #162

A broken clock is right twice a day. Trump accidentally gets it right this time! AgadorSparticus May 2017 #62

Amazing... Snackshack May 2017 #80

Wrong. beam me up scottie May 2017 #82

Or, alternately.... opiate69 May 2017 #83

Yep.. the soundbyte.. but all of a sudden context Cha May 2017 #88

always has mattered to some of us. in what cases can you think of where it hasn't mattered to some? JCanete May 2017 #115

It's a tweet. Here's the context: ucrdem May 2017 #117

Oh ffs.. he tweets it.. Damn the "OPTICS" are bad. Cha May 2017 #124

Bad and badder. I clicked the video and ... ucrdem May 2017 #125

Worse! the so-called president is Not "right" about a Cha May 2017 #127

And not just a tweet, a whole show to drive home the point. ucrdem May 2017 #128

A big ol pic of trump w/"Trump is Right".. WTF? Cha May 2017 #133

Hard to miss the "context" when it's staring at you in 80-point letters. . . ucrdem May 2017 #136

When it was announced President Obama was going Cha May 2017 #122

he responded based upon what he knows and what we still know. The coziness with big money after our JCanete May 2017 #134

He knee jerked and there is no context with BS' Cha May 2017 #137

oh Cha, I'm glad what you care about is condoning and even propagating blatant, unconscionable spin. JCanete May 2017 #163

Your insults means you have nothing.. you can't defend Cha May 2017 #198

I just stated what you are doing. No motive behind it. I can't ascribe that for you. nt JCanete May 2017 #199

Just keep digging. Cha May 2017 #200

I'm trying, but I can't find you, you're so in over your head in shit. Come on, just admit that JCanete May 2017 #201

Riiiiiight Cha May 2017 #203

uh oh, watch out with that language...people might start thinking you are normalizing my posts. nt JCanete May 2017 #207

Exactly snackshack. Trump praised a nation that has universal healthcare Jno_Gilmor_ May 2017 #116

But first he praises Trump. That's the problem: ucrdem May 2017 #118

Not really though, in that he knows what treestar May 2017 #178

Can we at least come to an agreement that saying somebody is right on an issue, JCanete May 2017 #186

If he didn't want to say "Trump is right" thrice--on TV, in a tweet, and in a specially made video-- ucrdem May 2017 #204

I don't have a clue how you got an " attaboy" out of that. It is NOT there. The tone of the whole JCanete May 2017 #206

Take off the tunnel vision google glasses and tune in to reality. ucrdem May 2017 #208

well that couldn't have been more vague. nt JCanete May 2017 #209

And when you play the embedded video, you get this: ucrdem May 2017 #121

Thank goodness we now know BainsBane May 2017 #158

Brian Williams: "I am Wonder Mike" Warren DeMontague May 2017 #129

Now be serious. Like this peacock jumping spider dancing to YMCA: beam me up scottie May 2017 #132

Holy shit. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #159

Now Lindsay really hates you! countryjake May 2017 #140

she seems tense. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #191

BS tweet: Trump is right Cha May 2017 #148

Post removed Post removed May 2017 #174

Yes! melman May 2017 #179

Perfect. Nanjeanne May 2017 #180

+1,000. Crunchy Frog May 2017 #183

Yes. Wasn't it great when this board was focused on attacking Democrats? athena May 2017 #190

He could have said Trump is feeble! R B Garr May 2017 #168

Yeah, BS: "trump is right" and the Democratic Party is Cha May 2017 #210

Where are my pearls?! How can I clutch them if I can't find them!? aidbo May 2017 #193

Oh ffs! TDale313 May 2017 #202

Trump was right. Orsino May 2017 #211