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In reply to the discussion: Go F*ck Yourselves: Bill Maher Goes Off on Liberal Purists Who Didnt Vote for Clinton [View all]JonLP24
(29,322 posts)So called liberals but shit people vote or not vote for all sorts of reasons. I knew someone that hasn't cast a vote since the 60s (last I eaw him was '05).
Myself I voted for every Democratic President but so far the Republican won Arizona so it isn't like it had meaning one way or the other since winner takes all of the electoral votes. The Congressional elections and state wide races probably matter more as far as my vote is concerned.
In Arizona registered Independents make up a third of the party registrations (All three parties make up about 33 percent each) just to give a referrence of where I'm coming from.
I actually quit watching his show awhile ago but I was more speaking to the mindset where people have reasonable criticisms or concerns (not like the GOP with manufactured outrage over something far from reality).
For some reason quite a few people do more to attack the party's base or like minded individuals while we excuse the Republicans for actually voting them in like it's not their fault.
Does it bother them as much as it does Maher? He's in a position with a TV show to airwhatever personal grievences he has in a way the debate is one sided so he puts on a show in a way where while he does whoever the other people (I'm referencing a lot of other issues or controversies like the Berkeley thing for one) so as feeling comfortable so the reason they're trashing those voters is because if they did vote they likely would have voted for the D but honestly I think they feel entitled to their support (ironically since Bill Maher was Independent on the Libertarian side before but everyone has their own policies or ideas that they favored which he himself said there wasn't a lot of difference between the two parties before Bush took office(who he also criticized for not being tough enough on Muslims. It took him awhile to realize that Republicans are as terrible as they really are. However, he expects other people that aren't Republicans to draw lines over anything or just didn't have a high opinion of either of the candidates which both had high unapproval ratings. Whatever the case they should be trying to win over their vote but instead they blame them over being upset about policy choices aimed for those who may or may not join us.
gain the word "purist" thrown around and which is ridiculous because aren't we all purists? Isn't therew a reason why we don't vote for Republicans? It must have something to do with policies which we disapprove of.
The one thing Republicans generally don't do these days is anger the base and while we generally blame the no show voters the GOP is actively hatching up schemes to make voting as difficult and confusing as possible not to mention the misinformation and removing people from the voting rolls.
Sorry for the long post but if there was anything to cause me to permanently leave the party it is this attitude going back to the whole "pony" thing in the early Obama years. This has nothing to do with me personally just expressing my reasons why I think this approach will backfire.
You know there were Republicans who didn't attention much or even why they voted Republican (usually something that is inherited starting but when Bush lead a campaign to go into Iraq where the reasons were obviously phony brought a lot of people over to ourside and never left since then. They didn't have anyone telling them to go fuck themselves for voting for Bush in the first place because they didn't know any better but if we want to look forward and not back think about the future elections as I think they are better ways which include ways of understanding on how they feel which obviously Maher has no interest in doing himself.
On edit : I don't know exactly what he said on his politics before the Bush years that he could have voted either eay as he was more impressed with Republicans before he began favoring the party nominee since the Bush years. This was based on a Colin Powell interview who endorsed Obama over McCain & Romney and probably favored Clinton over Trump. I wanted to make sure to elaborate as he saw the Republicans as a more credible party before the Bush years rather than inadvertently quote Nader.