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JCanete

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184. I don't know what's not fake about pretending something was meant that wasn't. That is a lie,

Sun May 7, 2017, 03:03 PM

May 2017

outright. If the media is using it to sell something that isn't true, how is that so easily dismissed as..."well clickbait will be clickbait". It's our fucking media lying.

that said, I don't know who you think is going to be convinced suddenly to like trump because of this or trust in trump, because either people already hate him or they love him. People have kind of made up their minds on this one. If the same people like Bernie, then Bernie's own opinion of the man has had no effect on them to date, so I don't see how this would be different.

Conversely anybody who doesn't like Trump but likes Sanders, is probably likely to be surprised by the article, so maybe they'll read to get the context, or better, just watch the video.

the only people this is fucking with is democrats who have a problem with Sanders, and Democrats should know better.

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Sanders: 'Trump is right' on Australian healthcare system [View all] OxQQme May 2017 OP

Bernie should have said that Trump clearly doesn't joeybee12 May 2017 #1

I heard that whole exchange. Cherry picking that piece of it here seems problematic, given that he JCanete May 2017 #2

Ya, not what he said but that won't stop the Bernie bashers Arazi May 2017 #6

Hope that gets a few more people to look into the care most advanced nations provide Tom Rinaldo May 2017 #3

Looks like he didn't get very far with that army. ucrdem May 2017 #4

You mean the effort to mobilize constituents to contact their senators? TCJ70 May 2017 #13

Yes. Didn't get very far did it. nt ucrdem May 2017 #68

The senate hasn't done anything yet so we don't really know... TCJ70 May 2017 #94

Exactly. Bernie said on Thursday Republicans celebrated voting to let people die. beam me up scottie May 2017 #95

We know. Schumer got out there on Thursday with the Democratic message: ucrdem May 2017 #96

What exactly is he doing? The article doesn't say. Ninsianna May 2017 #107

Oh f*&king dear. OnDoutside May 2017 #5

The Republicans went eight years without saying a single nice thing about President Obama, athena May 2017 #7

Oh for goodness sake! KPN May 2017 #9

It's performance art. Hassin Bin Sober May 2017 #15

+1 beam me up scottie May 2017 #20

Exactly. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #37

I don't get how this is even an issue... Jno_Gilmor_ May 2017 #119

Here's how for starters: ucrdem May 2017 #123

Bernie is right but the Trump voters will only see treestar May 2017 #167

Not just Trump voters, everyone, including Dem Senators ucrdem May 2017 #205

BS normalizing trump again.. he can't stop. Cha May 2017 #17

LOL! beam me up scottie May 2017 #18

If only Dr. Pavlov had had DU, QC May 2017 #22

*snort* beam me up scottie May 2017 #23

Nothing here is funny. BainsBane May 2017 #78

Right, and some around these parts find that a joking matter. George II May 2017 #79

You're right. Internet 'outrage' about quotes taken out of context isn't funny. beam me up scottie May 2017 #81

Something that often comes to mind lately... opiate69 May 2017 #84

LOLOLOL! Perfect! beam me up scottie May 2017 #86

I can't even keep track of how many quotes of his are supposedly taken out of context. BainsBane May 2017 #89

Oh my goodness yes. It's all Very Concerning. beam me up scottie May 2017 #92

It happens multiple times a month BainsBane May 2017 #100

Actually this is what I responded to: beam me up scottie May 2017 #101

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Ha! beam me up scottie May 2017 #106

That you chose to ignore the quesiton about healthcare BainsBane May 2017 #145

Yes yes, I know - this is an OUTRAGE! I'm supposed to be ANGRY! About...something or other. beam me up scottie May 2017 #147

Hey there, welcome to DU, BainsBane! countryjake May 2017 #149

#unity! beam me up scottie May 2017 #151

It's the "OPTICS". "Sanders: trump is right".. Cha May 2017 #109

Seriously. Suddenly optics aren't a concern at all BainsBane May 2017 #110

President Obama is giving a speech @ Cantor-Fitzgerald Cha May 2017 #111

FYI-BS' tweet: "President Trump is right" Cha May 2017 #126

What context am I supposedly missing? BainsBane May 2017 #131

Exactly.. the take away from the BS vid is trump with a big shit eating grin on his ugly face.. Cha May 2017 #135

The video doesn't play BainsBane May 2017 #139

Bains the video is in the tweet: ucrdem May 2017 #141

Why are there even videos? BainsBane May 2017 #146

I had to use Google Chrome to see Cha May 2017 #142

Yes, I agree. Instead of criticizing him for his evil health plan he starts out by saying smirkymonkey May 2017 #161

The can't seem to grasp it. Littlered9560 May 2017 #153

+1,000,000 Jno_Gilmor_ May 2017 #120

When they've got no argument, it's all they can do. kcr May 2017 #195

Ha! Lol. Hassin Bin Sober May 2017 #34

LOL@look who's talking. Cha May 2017 #52

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No you don't. Cha May 2017 #54

Is There An Age Requirement For DU? Me. May 2017 #91

lol.. Thank you, Me! Cha May 2017 #97

Profound sheshe2 May 2017 #56

yeah... opiate69 May 2017 #57

Indeed. beam me up scottie May 2017 #58

Tandem sheshe2 May 2017 #63

Uh-huh... wait, are you the person I was originally replying to? opiate69 May 2017 #71

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Well done! beam me up scottie May 2017 #65

I'm just so glad my kids grew out of that phase... opiate69 May 2017 #72

My little brother finally grew out of it when he hit junior high. beam me up scottie May 2017 #74

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All you have are insults. Cha May 2017 #28

Yes, exactly. ucrdem May 2017 #67

It's the sound byte.. Cha May 2017 #69

Birds of a feather ucrdem May 2017 #77

Right.. all of a sudden "context" matters. Cha May 2017 #87

Are we really doing anything of value here? KPN May 2017 #170

His interview on Chris Hayes' show, Thursday... countryjake May 2017 #8

That was a thing of beauty! demmiblue May 2017 #25

He looks genuinely happy and he says "thank you Mr. President" twice. ucrdem May 2017 #50

IF any one from the Democratic party is on the Sunday shows tomorrow kacekwl May 2017 #75

All of the network's nightly news repeated Trump's gaffe ... countryjake May 2017 #99

That was masterful, wasn't it? Thanks for posting it again. beam me up scottie May 2017 #98

Yup. The media is having a field day with Trump's comment ... countryjake May 2017 #102

You're exactly right - the media is having a field day with Trump's faux pas. beam me up scottie May 2017 #103

Did you even read the whole article? Did you hear his interview with Chris Hayes? KPN May 2017 #10

This is how you make a point. surrealAmerican May 2017 #11

This is how you give Trump supporters the impression that he is bipartisan athena May 2017 #19

wtf? WTF? how on earth did you come to that conclusion? Trump lauds something, presumably JCanete May 2017 #114

+1000 kacekwl May 2017 #177

BS' Tweet on "Trump is Right".. Cha May 2017 #143

if Sanders said "I Love Republicans making statements that prove themselves wrong" Warren DeMontague May 2017 #12

(stealing gif from pinkocommiewingnutbrobottroll) countryjake May 2017 #14

That's mister pinkocommiewingnutbrobottroll to you! Warren DeMontague May 2017 #35

. Hassin Bin Sober May 2017 #16

Everybody run around and scream! beam me up scottie May 2017 #21

Zoinks!! opiate69 May 2017 #24

But he KNOWS they will do this and should be more artful about it.... bettyellen May 2017 #29

I thought Bernie nailed it, actually. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #36

No "president Trump is right" is not true. He accidentally praised another nation's policies... bettyellen May 2017 #38

Come on. You're better than this. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #39

Everyone will shorten that clip, it's what they do. While you and I know what he was bettyellen May 2017 #41

I'm pretty sure the only "discord" of that type around this clip, will be here on DU. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #44

I wish. My friends are talking about it. And I didn't bring it up. Effing DT bettyellen May 2017 #104

Precisely and it is a "shitty headline". Cha May 2017 #90

BS Tweet on "trump is right".. Cha May 2017 #144

It isn't that hard. But Bernie can do no wrong n/t kcr May 2017 #196

But, that's not reality based. Cha May 2017 #212

Oy, the sound bites.... he's gotta know this quote would happen. Ugh. bettyellen May 2017 #27

Yes.. he can't help himself. Cha May 2017 #30

He probably thinks all his fans are perfect progressives and "get" how snark.... bettyellen May 2017 #33

come on...did you hear it in context? ANY fucking thing can be taken out of context. nt JCanete May 2017 #112

Noun-verb- noun is pretty much all they want for a headline. We can't call it fake news.' bettyellen May 2017 #164

reporters are spinning it more because it is pissing some of us in the Democratic base. WE should be JCanete May 2017 #166

No- they are repeating a full sentence he tweeted. Why wouldn't they? It sounds controversial... bettyellen May 2017 #169

when the media is that blatant, JCanete May 2017 #171

The media has always even that blatant. This is no surprise at all. It really makes me wonder. bettyellen May 2017 #172

It isn't a surprise...its sad that we let it be this way. nt JCanete May 2017 #175

It makes it harder to fight the idea of fake news - when we employ full sentences of snark.... bettyellen May 2017 #176

I refuse to accept that there arent different ways to attack these issues and that snark and making JCanete May 2017 #181

I don't think it's fake as much as it will be used to promote Trump... bettyellen May 2017 #182

I don't know what's not fake about pretending something was meant that wasn't. That is a lie, JCanete May 2017 #184

I think a lot of people (including the media) cannot face how bad Trump is- bettyellen May 2017 #185

Regarding Sanders statement, we simply disagree then. Regarding the media, yes there is an JCanete May 2017 #187

I don't think it's fake as much as it is a distraction from what congress is doing.... bettyellen May 2017 #188

sorry to belabor, but again, why is lying not fake? "Technically not lying" is still lying if JCanete May 2017 #189

It's not a lie to say he claimed "Trump is right". Quoting Him isn't quite lying... bettyellen May 2017 #192

Bernie's quick riff is A-OK and fine in context.... VOX May 2017 #31

Only if one bothers to understand the context. athena May 2017 #32

Even if they don't, isn't it true that Australia has better healthcare than the U.S.? VOX May 2017 #49

... Warren DeMontague May 2017 #40

... beam me up scottie May 2017 #42

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And who could forget Warren DeMontague May 2017 #45

Long live the Hoff! opiate69 May 2017 #47

The Hoff! beam me up scottie May 2017 #48

MMMMMMM... Behind the Aegis May 2017 #46

Since everyone says the media keeps taking him out of context BainsBane May 2017 #51

Exactly Bains.. Thank You! Cha May 2017 #55

Your last paragraph. sheshe2 May 2017 #59

I don't know if cutting him with his own words... moriah May 2017 #60

How does praising him help? BainsBane May 2017 #66

If you consider it praise... I didn't read it that way. moriah May 2017 #70

I'm not interested in excuses BainsBane May 2017 #76

I wonder if he'll ever call trump "distasteful" or "weak and disappointing"? George II May 2017 #85

You know, I can't claim to know what he says BainsBane May 2017 #93

Thank you, Bains Hekate May 2017 #108

in context BainsBane, it is bashing Trump for being a stopped clock and getting something right JCanete May 2017 #113

Good question BainsBane May 2017 #130

I'll leave my response to the second part for another time. I appreciate you being thoughtful and JCanete May 2017 #165

Your point about simple narratives is an important one BainsBane May 2017 #194

+1, Bernie said "Trump is right" because what he meant was "Bernie is right" R B Garr May 2017 #173

Charles Manson is probably right about something on occasion too BainsBane May 2017 #138

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Exactly. The context is the video - that's why it's INCLUDED in the tweet. beam me up scottie May 2017 #152

Is it the media taking him out of context? It looks like fanatical anti-Bernie people to me muriel_volestrangler May 2017 #154

The context is the deaths that will result from ACHA BainsBane May 2017 #155

Then it seems to me you've joined the wrong thread muriel_volestrangler May 2017 #156

Nailed it. beam me up scottie May 2017 #157

That is because I took on face value the claim he was taken out of context. BainsBane May 2017 #160

OK, we'll look at what the tweet says: muriel_volestrangler May 2017 #162

A broken clock is right twice a day. Trump accidentally gets it right this time! AgadorSparticus May 2017 #62

Amazing... Snackshack May 2017 #80

Wrong. beam me up scottie May 2017 #82

Or, alternately.... opiate69 May 2017 #83

Yep.. the soundbyte.. but all of a sudden context Cha May 2017 #88

always has mattered to some of us. in what cases can you think of where it hasn't mattered to some? JCanete May 2017 #115

It's a tweet. Here's the context: ucrdem May 2017 #117

Oh ffs.. he tweets it.. Damn the "OPTICS" are bad. Cha May 2017 #124

Bad and badder. I clicked the video and ... ucrdem May 2017 #125

Worse! the so-called president is Not "right" about a Cha May 2017 #127

And not just a tweet, a whole show to drive home the point. ucrdem May 2017 #128

A big ol pic of trump w/"Trump is Right".. WTF? Cha May 2017 #133

Hard to miss the "context" when it's staring at you in 80-point letters. . . ucrdem May 2017 #136

When it was announced President Obama was going Cha May 2017 #122

he responded based upon what he knows and what we still know. The coziness with big money after our JCanete May 2017 #134

He knee jerked and there is no context with BS' Cha May 2017 #137

oh Cha, I'm glad what you care about is condoning and even propagating blatant, unconscionable spin. JCanete May 2017 #163

Your insults means you have nothing.. you can't defend Cha May 2017 #198

I just stated what you are doing. No motive behind it. I can't ascribe that for you. nt JCanete May 2017 #199

Just keep digging. Cha May 2017 #200

I'm trying, but I can't find you, you're so in over your head in shit. Come on, just admit that JCanete May 2017 #201

Riiiiiight Cha May 2017 #203

uh oh, watch out with that language...people might start thinking you are normalizing my posts. nt JCanete May 2017 #207

Exactly snackshack. Trump praised a nation that has universal healthcare Jno_Gilmor_ May 2017 #116

But first he praises Trump. That's the problem: ucrdem May 2017 #118

Not really though, in that he knows what treestar May 2017 #178

Can we at least come to an agreement that saying somebody is right on an issue, JCanete May 2017 #186

If he didn't want to say "Trump is right" thrice--on TV, in a tweet, and in a specially made video-- ucrdem May 2017 #204

I don't have a clue how you got an " attaboy" out of that. It is NOT there. The tone of the whole JCanete May 2017 #206

Take off the tunnel vision google glasses and tune in to reality. ucrdem May 2017 #208

well that couldn't have been more vague. nt JCanete May 2017 #209

And when you play the embedded video, you get this: ucrdem May 2017 #121

Thank goodness we now know BainsBane May 2017 #158

Brian Williams: "I am Wonder Mike" Warren DeMontague May 2017 #129

Now be serious. Like this peacock jumping spider dancing to YMCA: beam me up scottie May 2017 #132

Holy shit. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #159

Now Lindsay really hates you! countryjake May 2017 #140

she seems tense. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #191

BS tweet: Trump is right Cha May 2017 #148

Post removed Post removed May 2017 #174

Yes! melman May 2017 #179

Perfect. Nanjeanne May 2017 #180

+1,000. Crunchy Frog May 2017 #183

Yes. Wasn't it great when this board was focused on attacking Democrats? athena May 2017 #190

He could have said Trump is feeble! R B Garr May 2017 #168

Yeah, BS: "trump is right" and the Democratic Party is Cha May 2017 #210

Where are my pearls?! How can I clutch them if I can't find them!? aidbo May 2017 #193

Oh ffs! TDale313 May 2017 #202

Trump was right. Orsino May 2017 #211