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DeminPennswoods

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31. Here's some relevent info from the New Yorker
Tue May 9, 2017, 09:41 PM
May 2017

Link: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/05/08/how-trump-could-get-fired

By far the most valuable lessons about impeachment come from Richard Nixon. In 1974, Nixon resigned shortly before he could be impeached, but his misjudgments—political, psychological, and legal—have illuminated the risks to Presidents ever since. In 1972, Nixon’s White House oversaw the bugging of the Democratic National Committee offices at the Watergate complex and the ensuing coverup. That was illegal and unethical, but it did not guarantee Nixon’s downfall, which came about because of two critical mistakes.

First, when the scandal emerged, the President underestimated the threat. “There were any number of steps that could have made it go away,” Evan Thomas, the author of “Being Nixon,” told me. “They could have cleaned house and fired people.” But Nixon assumed that his supporters would never believe the accusations. “He was ahead by thirty-four points in the polls in August, 1972,” Thomas went on. “He could have taken his clothes off and run around the White House front yard and he was going to win reëlection.”

As the scandal ground on, Nixon made his second mistake: he flouted the authority of a coequal branch of government. In October, 1973, Nixon refused to obey a federal appellate-court ruling that ordered him to turn over tapes of conversations in the Oval Office, and he forced out the investigation’s special prosecutor, Archibald Cox. For nine months, Nixon continued to resist—in effect threatening the basic constitutional system—until, in July, 1974, the Supreme Court ruled that he had to comply. By then, the damage was done, and the House Judiciary Committee launched impeachment hearings. By thwarting other branches, Nixon weakened his support in Congress and convinced the country that he had something to hide. Until that point, much of the public had not focussed on the slow, complex investigation, but interviews at the time show that Nixon’s stonewalling made people pay attention, and he never recovered. “Well, everything has added up to his incompetence over the last few months, and I don’t think the American people should stand for it any longer,” a woman interviewed in New York by the Associated Press said. “In fact, I just signed an impeach petition.”

By August, many of his top aides had been indicted, and polls showed that fifty-seven per cent of the public believed that Nixon should be removed from office. On August 6th, after a tape recording surfaced which captured him orchestrating the coverup, he was abandoned by Republicans who had previously derided the Watergate scandal as a witch hunt. Senator Barry Goldwater, of Arizona, told colleagues, “Nixon should get his ass out of the White House—today!” On August 9th, Nixon sent a letter to Secretary of State Henry Kissinger: “Dear Mr. Secretary, I hereby resign the Office of President of the United States. Sincerely, Richard Nixon.”

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David Frum: "It's a coup." [View all] kpete May 2017 OP
This is not a drill. wildeyed May 2017 #1
It's an attempted coup bucolic_frolic May 2017 #2
Yes. Nixon's Saturday Night Massacre backfired on him. He went down. Emboldened the investigation. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #5
Exactly. herding cats May 2017 #9
Wasn't Nixon facing Democrats? davekriss May 2017 #12
Yes, but it wasn't until Republicans caved that Nixon resigned. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #13
Every moment they wait they drop seats in 2018. byronius May 2017 #15
Yes. Got put pressure on Republicon members to smell tRump's toxic fumes and cough. Repeatedly. . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #16
I've long thought that appointing Chao was a way to co-opt the Turtle worstexever May 2017 #34
Yup. Chao was a payoff. McCONnell is complicit & will not hurt a hair on tRump ass. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #36
This is what I think. DT has a full deck & Scummy Sessions as AG Alice11111 May 2017 #29
Americans don't have a majority in the House OR the Senate. dchill May 2017 #17
TPM reports the Trump WH is surprised DeminPennswoods May 2017 #27
WH stupid enough to believe Dems stupid enough to believe Comey fired for being too hard on Hillary. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #28
At least CNN is calling it clearly! Alice11111 May 2017 #30
No. Trump is a boss who legally fired an underling. Hortensis May 2017 #23
Beautiful post, thank you N/T KatyMan May 2017 #24
Hmmm... him and Gloria Borger said it. BumRushDaShow May 2017 #3
sure it is madokie May 2017 #4
Wow. To have this word spoken so plainly, in America. Barack_America May 2017 #6
If Republicans stand behind Trump, it is a coup. kentuck May 2017 #7
And how are coups stopped? superpatriotman May 2017 #8
Representative Government, Call Now! BBG May 2017 #32
The success of this attempted coup will depend on whether the Senate realizes it's a co-equal branch Hekate May 2017 #10
he may well be right. spanone May 2017 #11
Would that be called unrecusal, disrecusal or... dchill May 2017 #18
If it's a crime, who's going to prosecute it? Wednesdays May 2017 #37
So is this the Tuesday Night Bowling Green Massacre then? calimary May 2017 #14
Please don't make jokes about the dead. dchill May 2017 #19
Good thing Trump didnt lie about sex. Then the GOP would have to do something. L. Coyote May 2017 #20
I thought we knew it was a coup when FatAss installed his cabinet. BlancheSplanchnik May 2017 #21
Reminds me of Nixon except DownriverDem May 2017 #22
But initially the GOPers defended Nixon and tried to downplay Watergate The Velveteen Ocelot May 2017 #26
Yes. Most of these are cold blooded, just give us our tax cuts Alice11111 May 2017 #35
That's sure what it feels like tonight n/t radical noodle May 2017 #25
Here's some relevent info from the New Yorker DeminPennswoods May 2017 #31
At *****LAST***** nt LaydeeBug May 2017 #33
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