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Xyzse

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29. That is an interesting take

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 10:22 AM

Jul 2012

So, this is positing that rather than considering weight as a function of a particle, it is instead a functional effect of motion.

However, I am not sure if that take makes sense when trying to explain Higgs Boson.

From what I've been trying to figure in regards to this is that what they found is not actually a particle but a force.

We can both agree that motion is a "force" right?

If that is the case, what they found is the basics of a "force" which then translates to weight.
Stating that the Higgs Boson is a particle can be misleading since they explain that things are made up of Fermions and Bosons. Fermions are matter while Bosons are forces, where a force can be considered a particle.

As such, if they have found something that provides proof of such a boson, then that is what the original post means as motion. Which then kinda turns around the OP position, since the Higgs Boson is pretty much a force or a measure of motion.

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Tell Me Again Why Higgs Boson is Earth Shattering? [View all] Iggy Jul 2012 OP

????? hobbit709 Jul 2012 #1

Derp duh Derp? MattBaggins Jul 2012 #2

Because it is actual science? Marrah_G Jul 2012 #3

"Sorry", Criticism isn't Science Iggy Jul 2012 #6

First you will have to learn a higher order of mathematics than counting on your fingers hobbit709 Jul 2012 #10

+1 000 000 000 for the reference to Phlogiston Theory. kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #42

One More Time... Iggy Jul 2012 #58

And the woo you cite is science? hobbit709 Jul 2012 #59

It's 'higgs-like' because of the 5 sigma rule. Kablooie Jul 2012 #68

It's the what keeps matter solid, what made our universe possible Marrah_G Jul 2012 #17

They had two groups with two separate sharp_stick Jul 2012 #20

This must be the stupidest, most uneducated, most anti-intellectual... Democracyinkind Jul 2012 #4

+1, n/t RKP5637 Jul 2012 #27

+1 Coexist Jul 2012 #39

+1000 K&R COLGATE4 Jul 2012 #45

WTF... redqueen Jul 2012 #5

+1, n/t RKP5637 Jul 2012 #28

Tell Me Again Why Climate Warming is Earth Shattering? trumad Jul 2012 #7

talk about mindless drivel.... bowens43 Jul 2012 #8

If Steven Hawkings was impressed, so am I. DocMac Jul 2012 #9

There's only one of him Lawlbringer Jul 2012 #11

lol. It wasn't even a typo. DocMac Jul 2012 #15

SO true Marrah_G Jul 2012 #18

This new learning amazes me... KatyMan Jul 2012 #12

LOL - next we'll be building bridges out of witches. myrna minx Jul 2012 #14

Several things 4lbs Jul 2012 #13

Thank you for this post. thucythucy Jul 2012 #25

What 4lbs said, plus it may or may not open the door to supersymmetry models. FarCenter Jul 2012 #30

No future much for supersymmetry or more determination mmonk Jul 2012 #60

Pity this isn't the OP, and the nonsense hidden in the comments. nt redqueen Jul 2012 #31

Well, that is a singularly uninformed excerpt you posted. MineralMan Jul 2012 #16

Riiiiight. The ancient Egyptians got it right, not the modern scientists.... MNBrewer Jul 2012 #19

and the writer could not spell Egyptian or Atom Marrah_G Jul 2012 #21

Actually there was an Egyptian god called "Atum" hifiguy Jul 2012 #33

I did not know that. Marrah_G Jul 2012 #36

There would be no logical reason for anyone to know that hifiguy Jul 2012 #37

Well...... Marrah_G Jul 2012 #48

I thought it was Aton. MNBrewer Jul 2012 #62

Yay! Right wing anti-science bullshit Ohio Joe Jul 2012 #22

Wow. 99Forever Jul 2012 #23

This discovery has multi-layered dimensions. ananda Jul 2012 #24

Teh Stoopid is strong in that one. n/t Ian David Jul 2012 #26

That is an interesting take Xyzse Jul 2012 #29

You and George W Bush....feelin' stuff in your gut DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2012 #32

The blog comment you've posted goes on to say that the physical world is the product of conciousness FarCenter Jul 2012 #34

I now know what it means to be "flabbergasted" 1-Old-Man Jul 2012 #35

Give it up. Just the notion of something named "Higgs Bosun" is cool. Don't poop on the party. yellowcanine Jul 2012 #38

Science is NOT speculation nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #40

Actually the earth is not round RC Jul 2012 #56

Ummmm, you probably don't want to accuse the world's preeminent kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #41

Go do some research on what happened within the first second of the big bang snooper2 Jul 2012 #43

Crack a book. Swede Jul 2012 #44

If physics is pseudo science .... etherealtruth Jul 2012 #46

I'm thrilled that they may have found the key to the universe. Bake Jul 2012 #47

Goodness...!!!! CanSocDem Jul 2012 #49

"Idealism" works well in the rectory or university study; "materialism" works better elsewhere FarCenter Jul 2012 #51

No use arguing with that poster. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #65

LOL-- I love it when mystical nitwits try to claim science just hasn't "caught up" to them. Marr Jul 2012 #50

Maybe they're looking for an even more fundamental and hard to detect particle. ryan_cats Jul 2012 #52

... WilliamPitt Jul 2012 #53

The silence from the rightwingnuts is deafening. no_hypocrisy Jul 2012 #54

I suppose a few "I don't understand this therefore it's wrong" posts were inevitable.. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #55

Motion can INCREASE mass, but not CREATE it derby378 Jul 2012 #57

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #61

Sure. How can an invisible field that surrounds & affects everything DirkGently Jul 2012 #63

What a bunch of anti-science gobbly-gok. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #64

It's not earth shattering. Kablooie Jul 2012 #66

It was no big deal when they figured out how to split the atom either, y'know? Tsiyu Jul 2012 #67

Wow. Ridiculous nonsense, meant to discredit a major scientific breakthrough. Avalux Jul 2012 #69