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guillaumeb

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8. Agreed.

Wed May 10, 2017, 07:25 PM

May 2017

Even the Russia connection, as serious as it is, is not the reason that Trump is in the White House. The GOP does not believe in a 2 party system and they will do anything to retain power. President Obama obviously believed that the GOP was seriously interested in negotiating.

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Is calling people "far left idiots" a way to promote dialogue? [View all] guillaumeb May 2017 OP

idiots is a terrible word djsunyc May 2017 #1

And many people are guilty of not focusing on the real reasons guillaumeb May 2017 #3

3rd party assholes who LIE to get the Voters sucked Cha May 2017 #12

In my view, Jill Stein is a self-promoter. guillaumeb May 2017 #13

pawn for putin, stein, LIED her damn head Off to get suckers Cha May 2017 #14

True, or at least arguably so. guillaumeb May 2017 #18

Who the hell said she did.. stein FUBARED Enough Cha May 2017 #26

Sorry- there is no defense for a supposed "progressive" who votes for Stein redstateblues May 2017 #32

Exactly. Cha May 2017 #37

Why so hostile? melman May 2017 #53

LOL NurseJackie May 2017 #54

Yeah, why have any animosity toward jill ratfucker stein? Cha May 2017 #63

Why do you need to ask? Cha May 2017 #62

Just as I thought melman May 2017 #64

Right.. Just as you "thought". lol Cha May 2017 #65

Who specifically is arguing Stein removed voters from the rolls? LanternWaste May 2017 #72

Stein and the JPR idiots did swing enough votes to potentially affect the POTUS race Gothmog May 2017 #81

Gerrymandering is one aspect of the GOP playbook. guillaumeb May 2017 #85

Gerrymandering was not a part of the POTUS race where Stein and the BOB had their main effect Gothmog May 2017 #87

Everytime I see that pic of Flynn at Putin's dinner table..STEIN is there. mhw May 2017 #107

Alt left. nt LexVegas May 2017 #2

Nailed it! nt Kahuna7 May 2017 #68

Certainly not idiots. Intelligent, gullible purists maybe but not idiots. n/t CincyDem May 2017 #4

Again, too simple and ignores the real reasons. guillaumeb May 2017 #5

Think You're Missing A Factor In Your Summary ProfessorGAC May 2017 #70

Agreed with your last point. eom guillaumeb May 2017 #84

I think the "far left" were really right wing trolls tenderfoot May 2017 #6

Apparently quite a few think so... WoonTars May 2017 #7

Agreed. guillaumeb May 2017 #8

...and that was his biggest failing...treating them like responsible adults... WoonTars May 2017 #10

You left out "in my opinion" SticksnStones May 2017 #73

What did Obama call them? Historic NY May 2017 #9

I am uncertain of your question. eom guillaumeb May 2017 #11

What did Rahm call them? bahrbearian May 2017 #24

Sorry, if you're on the left and voted for Stein, you're an idiot. NewDealProgressive May 2017 #15

But the main reason that Trump won the Electoral College guillaumeb May 2017 #19

Jill Stein was part of it. Bradical79 May 2017 #86

No, it's pushed by our enemies and useful D-Krugerians who haven't clued in... Shandris May 2017 #16

So those of us who felt that BoB or Jill Stein supporters helped to hurt our chances wasupaloopa May 2017 #17

Allow me to respond: guillaumeb May 2017 #21

It is all our responsibility to vote. wasupaloopa May 2017 #60

I agree with you. Voter suppression exists, but can be overcome. Blue_true May 2017 #110

you are right I think wasupaloopa May 2017 #111

And you left out the #1 reason...Racism countryjake May 2017 #20

Great point. guillaumeb May 2017 #22

This WellDarn May 2017 #25

But stein had a right to LIE her damn head off about Cha May 2017 #27

Lying in politics? ZX86 May 2017 #44

jstein's a fucking 3rd party LIAR.. fucking Pawn for Putin. Cha May 2017 #61

But she snookered lefties to accept those lies- that's the issue. They gave the media a sideshow and bettyellen May 2017 #90

I might have said this already WellDarn May 2017 #41

Welcome to DU! countryjake May 2017 #51

There's pretty much no doubt WellDarn May 2017 #23

Exactly. And welcome to DU. guillaumeb May 2017 #28

You sure have shown a lot of concern for those who rat-fucked us. JTFrog May 2017 #35

1% WellDarn May 2017 #43

Gee thanks for your permission. JTFrog May 2017 #49

This is really sad WellDarn May 2017 #71

... NurseJackie May 2017 #77

Some people ONLY show up to DU to try and pick fights with other people. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #29

It does seem that way. guillaumeb May 2017 #31

Here's a big story many seem to have missed: Warren DeMontague May 2017 #34

Major major story WellDarn May 2017 #45

It's a failed strategy if you want to win elections. ZX86 May 2017 #30

Agreed. It is inspiring people with a message, guillaumeb May 2017 #33

That's how Obama won. ZX86 May 2017 #50

Not only 'simplistic,' but also elleng May 2017 #36

As if the far-left were ever a factor in US politics. eom guillaumeb May 2017 #40

Oh THAT TOO! elleng May 2017 #42

Continuing to defend Jill Stein doesn't do much to promote dialog. The_Casual_Observer May 2017 #38

I have never personally defended Stein. guillaumeb May 2017 #39

If you are not WellDarn May 2017 #48

Every factor on your list has been discussed many times. brer cat May 2017 #46

Not really, but the far left idiots aren't worth attempting to have a dialogue with. Foamfollower May 2017 #47

I didn't see any blaming Bernie BainsBane May 2017 #52

+100000000 betsuni May 2017 #55

+1 uponit7771 May 2017 #57

Well said. JHan May 2017 #59

Mic drop. nt JTFrog May 2017 #66

+1000 Starry Messenger May 2017 #83

So lifelong Democrats who voted twice for Obama and then for Trump are white nationalists? YoungDemCA May 2017 #89

My post was not directed against the Trump voters, guillaumeb May 2017 #91

Trump won by two votes per precinct in Michigan BainsBane May 2017 #94

And she lost by similar numbers in WI and Penn Volstagg May 2017 #96

She actually did go to many of those states BainsBane May 2017 #100

Of course voters are responsible, too Volstagg May 2017 #103

And those 2 votes could have been supressed by the GOP. guillaumeb May 2017 #98

Bill Maher was absolutely right about what far left idiots should do with organically grown betsuni May 2017 #56

There is no 'far left' in the Democratic party. nt William769 May 2017 #58

No. There are moderates of many variations. guillaumeb May 2017 #92

I don't like the term "far left" because.... MountCleaners May 2017 #67

There are some who have witnessed the term Centrist Democrat become a slur SticksnStones May 2017 #74

Agreed that it is a way of shutting off debate and silencing people. guillaumeb May 2017 #93

Well there are those who wish to be divisive n2doc May 2017 #69

If they are so non-existent, why is there such an effort to defend them? JTFrog May 2017 #75

i think it was a little of everything okieinpain May 2017 #76

With all that you have written...the fact remains had Hillary Demsrule86 May 2017 #78

Jill Stein and her supporters deserve mocking. hrmjustin May 2017 #79

Stein and the BOB idiots did help elect trump Gothmog May 2017 #80

It is when it's apt... Blue_Tires May 2017 #82

Dialog with any set of extremists too often devolves down into LanternWaste May 2017 #88

No jalan48 May 2017 #95

It isn't meant to promote dialogue. stranger81 May 2017 #97

This probably applies to a few people. guillaumeb May 2017 #99

I wholeheartedly agree. [n/t] stranger81 May 2017 #101

My world view will magically save us all, if only all you heathens would just believe what I do. Thomas Hurt May 2017 #102

If only you had said this earlier. guillaumeb May 2017 #104

So why aren't Bernie Sanders and Jill Stein talking about those issues? dansolo May 2017 #105

I remember Jonathan Alter dissing "Fire breathing liberals" Tursiops May 2017 #106

I seriously hate people that let their "principles" get in the way of the greater good. Blue_true May 2017 #108

Obama won despite all the conservative dirty tricks listed... brooklynite May 2017 #109