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In reply to the discussion: Important to remember that Fox News is reporting the Comey story completely differently [View all]sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)7. I don't think Fox matters on Russia. CNN has flipped. And see this on Nixon in 1974
https://psmag.com/news/trumps-supporters-still-support-trump-so-what
The 1974 NYT article that contains these quotes is a really good read.
http://www.nytimes.com/1974/06/06/archives/in-holdrege-neb-where-weather-leads-watergate-as-a-topic-nixonls.html?_r=0
Let Fox do their lying thing. The dam has been breached. All the rest of the media are up in arms. And arrests will happen soon. As many sins as Fox has in normal times (allowing e.g. AHCA, Benghazi, poisoning people against Obamacare's benefits), this is now out of Fox's control. The Kochs and Murdochs and Mercers can't stop this.
In June of 1974, with the Watergate scandal exploding and President Richard Nixons approval ratings in the high 20s, the New York Timesran an article that interviewed rural, conservative whites in Holdrege, Nebraska, about their feelings toward the president. These respondents were fierce supporters of Nixon and did not like the way the political system was treating him. The quotes may sound familiar today:
I CANT BELIEVE THERES ONE DIRTY THING WRONG WITH RICHARD NIXON . SOME PEOPLE DID SOME AWFUL WRONG THINGS AT WATERGATE, BUT YOULL NEVER CONVINCE ME THAT NIXON KNEW OF THEM. NOW YOU TALK ABOUT DISHONESTY. WHAT ABOUT ALL THOSE VOTES THE DEMOCRATS ALWAYS STEAL IN CHICAGO?
IM JUST NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THE PRESIDENT IS WRONG UNTIL HES CONVICTED. I DONT HAVE THAT MUCH FAITH IN THE NEWS MEDIA ANY MORE.
YOU CAN SEE THE GLEAM IN THOSE TV REPORTERS EYES WHEN THEY HAVE BAD NEWS.
I CANT UNDERSTAND WHY SOME PEOPLE SUDDENLY EXPECT POLITICS TO BE CONDUCTED IN A CHURCH-LIKE ATMOSPHERE. IT NEVER HAS BEEN BEFORE.
THOSE EASTERN LIBERALS, TRY TO MAKE THEIR POLITICAL BELIEFS SEEM SO SOPHISTICATED JUST BECAUSE THEYRE LIBERAL, BUT THEY BLAST AND NIT‐PICK SO MUCH IT SOUNDS LIKE PROPAGANDA NOW.
I CANT BELIEVE THERES ONE DIRTY THING WRONG WITH RICHARD NIXON . SOME PEOPLE DID SOME AWFUL WRONG THINGS AT WATERGATE, BUT YOULL NEVER CONVINCE ME THAT NIXON KNEW OF THEM. NOW YOU TALK ABOUT DISHONESTY. WHAT ABOUT ALL THOSE VOTES THE DEMOCRATS ALWAYS STEAL IN CHICAGO?
IM JUST NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THE PRESIDENT IS WRONG UNTIL HES CONVICTED. I DONT HAVE THAT MUCH FAITH IN THE NEWS MEDIA ANY MORE.
YOU CAN SEE THE GLEAM IN THOSE TV REPORTERS EYES WHEN THEY HAVE BAD NEWS.
I CANT UNDERSTAND WHY SOME PEOPLE SUDDENLY EXPECT POLITICS TO BE CONDUCTED IN A CHURCH-LIKE ATMOSPHERE. IT NEVER HAS BEEN BEFORE.
THOSE EASTERN LIBERALS, TRY TO MAKE THEIR POLITICAL BELIEFS SEEM SO SOPHISTICATED JUST BECAUSE THEYRE LIBERAL, BUT THEY BLAST AND NIT‐PICK SO MUCH IT SOUNDS LIKE PROPAGANDA NOW.
The 1974 NYT article that contains these quotes is a really good read.
http://www.nytimes.com/1974/06/06/archives/in-holdrege-neb-where-weather-leads-watergate-as-a-topic-nixonls.html?_r=0
Let Fox do their lying thing. The dam has been breached. All the rest of the media are up in arms. And arrests will happen soon. As many sins as Fox has in normal times (allowing e.g. AHCA, Benghazi, poisoning people against Obamacare's benefits), this is now out of Fox's control. The Kochs and Murdochs and Mercers can't stop this.
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Important to remember that Fox News is reporting the Comey story completely differently [View all]
oberliner
May 2017
OP
I ask them to change stations too. In 200, when I first visited a heart hospital, they had a TV in a
Jim Beard
May 2017
#89
I don't think Fox matters on Russia. CNN has flipped. And see this on Nixon in 1974
sharedvalues
May 2017
#7
Fox has actually had some reasonable coverage of this, from very unlikely sources.
thesquanderer
May 2017
#62
The anti Vietman "Secret Plan" vote lives today. There is little hope of changing the "old dogs"
Jim Beard
May 2017
#92
You don't have to reach ALL the nutjobs. 25%, of the 60m who voted for Trump, would do, which if
OnDoutside
May 2017
#20
Is it likely that 100% of the 60m Rep voters only watch Fox and RW radio ? Many do, but I
OnDoutside
May 2017
#82
When indictments, convictions & impeachments come, Fox viewers will be the most shocked on Earth. nt
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2017
#25
Exactly. My late best friend was SHOCKED and not in a "Casablanca" way when Romney lost.
WinkyDink
May 2017
#88
FOX listeners are used to being mushroomed, they are kept in the dark and fed bullshit, they
Thinkingabout
May 2017
#33
fox is an arm of the Republican party, fox and friends has groomed trump for years.
Sunlei
May 2017
#36
Fox is a propaganda network. There is nothing to reason with regarding intentional misinformation.
still_one
May 2017
#41
Fox is very, very good at being the propaganda arm of the Republican Party.
Still In Wisconsin
May 2017
#45
It is like looking into a parallel dimension where up is down and down is up.
Mr. Sparkle
May 2017
#50
That pales in comparison to the importance to the destruction tRumpsters are inflicting.
ffr
May 2017
#52
There is NO "one small point that maybe can be a source of agreement." Suggest one.
WinkyDink
May 2017
#87
Maybe, but I can't be bothered (they could also reply, "Still too good for him!" And then I'm mad.).
WinkyDink
May 2017
#105