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In reply to the discussion: Important to remember that Fox News is reporting the Comey story completely differently [View all]ancianita
(43,366 posts)101. Just looking at the numbers, I don't see Fox as the major wielder of public influence that you do.
You:
It's important, I think, for us to be aware that this is not a fringe position. There are countless millions of people who rely on Fox as their only source of news and believe all other sources to be lying. The people in this category are not operating in the same reality than we are - and their numbers are not small.
Me: I'm not going to call it "fringe" but I'm pretty sure it's a minority position. Here's why.
They're 3.83 million. That's the highest count my research has shown me; Fox audience counts are actually lower. Regardless, that is not a big percentage of the American population, really, which is what, around 325 million.
And whether they or we 'feel' as if they're Big Numbers, I think, depends on which IHeartRadio areas you live in (formerly Channel One country), since many TV and radio operators get free syndication from this major right wing media conglomerate, along with Fox News.
What I think Fox is influential about is that they "get out in front of the facts" with a story frame; then later they present a sub-frame of the first story, and it tells listener/watchers that the rest of media is dishonest in their reactions to Fox's 'news,' and that Fox is the most "real" and trustworthy.
For Fox watchers it's the only media they're in front of daily, in every bar, coffee shop, hair salon or bus, air or train station. The common news exposure creates bubbles of agreement and bonding in communities. It becomes easy to believe Fox when it says that they are more "in the know" than coastal snobs. Usually the young of these areas have wider internet access, clearer outlooks, and often challenge or mitigate what we think is an unrelenting and powerful set of stories of world events.
You're not wrong in saying we should pay attention to Fox and its watchers. But Fox hasn't been as powerfully propagandistic as we fear, either. It gives feels. I'm not going to echo those here.
The real enemies whom I fear are the profiteers of government who care not if this country becomes a trade satellite -- with all the governmental trappings and business evils -- of Russia.
Just my two cents.
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Important to remember that Fox News is reporting the Comey story completely differently [View all]
oberliner
May 2017
OP
I ask them to change stations too. In 200, when I first visited a heart hospital, they had a TV in a
Jim Beard
May 2017
#89
I don't think Fox matters on Russia. CNN has flipped. And see this on Nixon in 1974
sharedvalues
May 2017
#7
Fox has actually had some reasonable coverage of this, from very unlikely sources.
thesquanderer
May 2017
#62
The anti Vietman "Secret Plan" vote lives today. There is little hope of changing the "old dogs"
Jim Beard
May 2017
#92
You don't have to reach ALL the nutjobs. 25%, of the 60m who voted for Trump, would do, which if
OnDoutside
May 2017
#20
Is it likely that 100% of the 60m Rep voters only watch Fox and RW radio ? Many do, but I
OnDoutside
May 2017
#82
When indictments, convictions & impeachments come, Fox viewers will be the most shocked on Earth. nt
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2017
#25
Exactly. My late best friend was SHOCKED and not in a "Casablanca" way when Romney lost.
WinkyDink
May 2017
#88
FOX listeners are used to being mushroomed, they are kept in the dark and fed bullshit, they
Thinkingabout
May 2017
#33
fox is an arm of the Republican party, fox and friends has groomed trump for years.
Sunlei
May 2017
#36
Fox is a propaganda network. There is nothing to reason with regarding intentional misinformation.
still_one
May 2017
#41
Fox is very, very good at being the propaganda arm of the Republican Party.
Still In Wisconsin
May 2017
#45
It is like looking into a parallel dimension where up is down and down is up.
Mr. Sparkle
May 2017
#50
That pales in comparison to the importance to the destruction tRumpsters are inflicting.
ffr
May 2017
#52
There is NO "one small point that maybe can be a source of agreement." Suggest one.
WinkyDink
May 2017
#87
Maybe, but I can't be bothered (they could also reply, "Still too good for him!" And then I'm mad.).
WinkyDink
May 2017
#105