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ucrdem

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7. The problem with the Russia stuff is that it comes across as red-baiting.

Tue May 23, 2017, 07:39 PM

May 2017

We're not at war with Russia, and having dinner with the president is not a crime. The same goes for Turkey. It's not illegal to take money from them, either. Now, not reporting such payments when required to becomes problematic, and that's what apparently got Flynn fired, but just doing business with Russia is not going to topple the US government, or the presidency, because that is its function. So claiming that the Marshal of the Supreme Court is out delivering FISA warrants for treason comes across as RW lunacy.

Just my .02!

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Mensch has been pushing her "loony" theories about DT and Russia for more than a YEAR. [View all] pnwmom May 2017 OP

Loony Louise Me. May 2017 #1

FWIW Schlubby fat guys are pretty much ignored and invisible in US society. emulatorloo May 2017 #2

No one who uses the term 'conspiracy theorist' seriously is worth... Shandris May 2017 #3

So if more than one of Trump's team conspired with Russians, you won't consider it a WinkyDink May 2017 #15

Theories are one thing. Reporting news is a different thing. Demit May 2017 #4

And she distinguishes between the two in her posts. n/t pnwmom May 2017 #6

Your point? WinkyDink May 2017 #17

Reporters report things. They avoid speculating or editorializing. It muddies the waters. Demit May 2017 #21

The fact that Mensch started her conduit of information is suspicious PufPuf23 May 2017 #5

You say she was posting about Trump when no one took him seriously pnwmom May 2017 #8

"Likely" is an unverifiable OPINION. Trump was (and is) FAMOUS. WinkyDink May 2017 #16

She might be a tool of UK intelligence, trying to warn us american_ideals May 2017 #33

The problem with the Russia stuff is that it comes across as red-baiting. ucrdem May 2017 #7

The problem with the Russia stuff is that too many Americans don't realize pnwmom May 2017 #10

Yes Flynn is in serious trouble, no doubt about that. ucrdem May 2017 #11

If enough people like Flynn can get flipped, it might be possible. pnwmom May 2017 #12

Yes I heard about that today on NPR. ucrdem May 2017 #22

What? Investigate GOP money, media manipulation american_ideals May 2017 #44

Brennan said there was cause for concern but he couldn't state with certainty ucrdem May 2017 #46

Brennan: "Resist Russian Meddling" american_ideals May 2017 #49

A little late for that eh. Yes, he saw things. Fine, so did I. nt ucrdem May 2017 #51

Russia attacked us - thanks for admitting. american_ideals May 2017 #55

Comey worried about Carlos Danger not the Russia danger. nt ucrdem May 2017 #58

Russia intervention hurt our election american_ideals May 2017 #64

Part Of The Problem Me. May 2017 #14

Apparently he didn't report that he'd received half a million from Turkey ucrdem May 2017 #20

First Off Me. May 2017 #24

The president has to work in a somewhat transparent way - candidates cannot make deals w foreign bettyellen May 2017 #27

Yep Flynn seems very compromised. ucrdem May 2017 #32

He's one of many it seems. Discussing sanctions as a payback is illegal. bettyellen May 2017 #43

And.. Flynn planned on kidnapping a legal permanent resident (Gulen) in the dead of night womanofthehills May 2017 #62

"Red-baiting"?! Oh, yes, let's be KIND to Putin, who ordered the shoot-down of a PASSENGER PLANE. WinkyDink May 2017 #18

Putin isn't a Communist leftstreet May 2017 #23

Yep exactly. ucrdem May 2017 #26

Putin is waging war on America american_ideals May 2017 #39

What? Russia is a dictatorship kleptocracy. american_ideals May 2017 #40

And stole our election. american_ideals May 2017 #41

Russia and Turkey are autocracies american_ideals May 2017 #35

But Turkey IS our ally and has been since 1952 ucrdem May 2017 #37

Turkey is a dictatorship. As of recently. american_ideals May 2017 #38

"Use every man after his desert, and who should 'scape whipping?" ucrdem May 2017 #42

Putin interfered in our election. american_ideals May 2017 #45

I agree that our elections are wretchedly corrupt. ucrdem May 2017 #48

No. Putin attacked our election. Leave the bothsidesism for later, please. american_ideals May 2017 #50

fine, let's see some evidence. nt ucrdem May 2017 #52

Evidence: FBI REPORT OCT 2016. Brennan testimony today. american_ideals May 2017 #54

FBI REPORT OCT 2016: ucrdem May 2017 #57

No evidence? Look at the Brennan Testimony or read an account. A link: emulatorloo May 2017 #63

Turkey recently became an autocracy american_ideals May 2017 #47

Louise is just alright by me WheelWalker May 2017 #9

I KNOW! Russians? What Russians?! Nutty broad! :-P WinkyDink May 2017 #13

If you want credibility, Eyeball_Kid May 2017 #19

k&r bigtree May 2017 #25

Yep! I am grateful for all that took seriously how Donald was bad news and how. Madam45for2923 May 2017 #28

Any of us could have tweet those comments during the campaign. Chemisse May 2017 #29

How many people in the MSM helped DT vs. normalized him? pnwmom May 2017 #30

That is good. Chemisse May 2017 #34

Don't worry. pnwmom May 2017 #36

She;s a fake new crackpot. Foamfollower May 2017 #31

Oh...I get it! FBaggins May 2017 #53

Seriously! Orrex May 2017 #59

How many people in the media last spring were warning us about Russia? n/t pnwmom May 2017 #60

Three easy responses to that FBaggins May 2017 #65

She was in the media a year ago. She was working for Heat Street, pnwmom May 2017 #66

Heat Street wasn't open when most of those claims were made FBaggins May 2017 #70

Heat Street launched in April 2016,, so her claims about DT and Trump pnwmom May 2017 #71

Three of the five that in your OP were prior to that date FBaggins May 2017 #72

The first tweet mentioning DT and Russia was on April 6th. How many pnwmom May 2017 #73

March 6th actually. FBaggins May 2017 #74

politics make for strange bedfellows..... samnsara May 2017 #56

Louise's other, um, accurate claims. kwassa May 2017 #61

Great troll-fishing hook for your OP title. L. Coyote May 2017 #67

Mensch has ONE good characteristic: she hates Trump. But she has never been reasonable or reliable LeftishBrit May 2017 #68

Hate on Mensch all you want, but don't think for a second that Blue_Tires May 2017 #69