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WhiskeyGrinder

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134. Hey white people in this thread, a few questions:

Thu May 25, 2017, 11:19 AM

May 2017

What do you gain by proving this story wrong?

What do you lose if his story is accurate?

What do you gain by insisting the farmer has no idea what you go through as a woman/poor person/member of another oppressed population and that your oppression is somehow worse?

What do you lose if you let this story have the center of attention for five minutes? An hour?

What do you gain by coming to the defense of white women, who cast 53 percent of their votes for Donald Trump, at the expense of a black man?

What do you lose by using one oppressed population against another in an effort to defend yourself and your movement?

What do you gain by acknowledging that because we live in a system and a culture and have a government based on white supremacy, your upbringing and institutions and worldview are steeped in racism? What do you lose?

Don't feel like you have to post your answers. I'm not super interested in hearing them necessarily; just throwing the questions out there for thinking about.

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Black Farmer Calls Out Liberal Racism In Powerful Facebook Message [View all] IronLionZion May 2017 OP

I can just imagine ExciteBike66 May 2017 #1

ROFL!! I know this is about a serious American epidemic, but your illustration had me LOL. eom BlueCaliDem May 2017 #36

Yeah I had nothing constructive to add to the guy's experience...nt ExciteBike66 May 2017 #40

Agree With Him RobinA May 2017 #2

You completely miss the point of taking down statues and flags. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #4

+1 Baitball Blogger May 2017 #108

Correct Dem2 May 2017 #318

No, I Don't Miss The Point RobinA May 2017 #341

It is good to drive them underground. Keep their rotten ideology contained & marginalized. . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #345

It sends a message...and I really don't buy this anyway...in the middle of the Trump Demsrule86 May 2017 #9

Wow. So he should just sit down and shut up in the back of our bus, Ms. Toad May 2017 #38

Why give ammo to the GOP which he did...do you think that makes it better? Demsrule86 May 2017 #173

Liberals, like everyone else, could use some self-examination. HopeAgain May 2017 #256

I.e. shut up - the impact liberal racism has on your daily life is irrelevant Ms. Toad May 2017 #268

Well if this sort of effort made by a Republican in my opinion succeeds...how do Demsrule86 May 2017 #363

Cause this gentleman is correct. We suffer from white privilege adigal May 2017 #301

We don't have the right to have a different view? Fantastic Anarchist May 2017 #228

Take your fingers out of your ears and listen to what he's saying. Ms. Toad May 2017 #270

I think everyone is talking past each other kcr May 2017 #282

Bingo! Fantastic Anarchist May 2017 #285

No, it's not. Fantastic Anarchist May 2017 #284

I see your point, but at the same time BertNEarnie May 2017 #83

He's actually talking about JustAnotherGen May 2017 #113

He has no idea who called the popo...and the fact he assumes it is a liberal with Hillary Demsrule86 May 2017 #194

I find it interesting he assumes it is white women who are his problem. 58Sunliner May 2017 #323

I think it is a BS article...and he is probably GOP...his memes are all GOP memes. Demsrule86 May 2017 #351

I agree with your points here. I definitely see the farmer's point, but he's using stereotypes too. yardwork May 2017 #344

I think his opinion makes sense. Baitball Blogger May 2017 #117

More exasperated than with the alt right? I find that questionable. Demsrule86 May 2017 #195

I think we all can multi-task when it comes to opinions. Baitball Blogger May 2017 #199

Maybe we could walk and chew gum at the same time. As a black man being harassed tblue37 May 2017 #137

My daughter dates a wonderful young man who is Black so I do understand. Demsrule86 May 2017 #231

I fully agree Fantastic Anarchist May 2017 #227

I have to wonder when he repeats GOP memes... Demsrule86 May 2017 #230

The confederate flag is a racist and traitorous symbol nt Progressive dog May 2017 #11

"a piece of cloth with a certain pattern on it. It isn't racism" Bucky May 2017 #24

The problem is that most of the idiots flying them don't know they're flying the wrong one. TheBlackAdder May 2017 #30

And it's even more obvious for people up north who don't have any southern heritage IronLionZion May 2017 #35

It's not about individuals flying a flag or celebrating a Confederate icon... Wounded Bear May 2017 #71

The Nazi flag is a piece of cloth with a certain pattern on it. Adrahil May 2017 #103

Ironically the swastika is a Hindu symbol to ward off evil spirits IronLionZion May 2017 #170

LOL. he's not saying overt racism is better. sad that you think a flag of treachery and racism is La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #157

The confederates went to war to PRESERVE SLAVERY!!!!!!! steve2470 May 2017 #207

Why The Confederate Battle Flag Is Even More Racist Than You Think IronLionZion May 2017 #251

Actually, RobinA May 2017 #343

Communication is a critical component in change IronLionZion May 2017 #348

K&R WellDarn May 2017 #3

Why are we calling non liberals, liberals? Nt retrowire May 2017 #5

Election results Albemarle County FSogol May 2017 #23

According to the OP, the women had Hillary stickers on their German SUVs ExciteBike66 May 2017 #33

Who you vote for doesn't make you liberal retrowire May 2017 #44

No it doesn't...those who did not vote for Hillary are not liberal... Demsrule86 May 2017 #174

Those familiar with stats will note you are committing what's called an Ecological Fallacy stevenleser May 2017 #329

You are skating close to the "no true Scotsman" fallacy. Caliman73 May 2017 #138

I'm just speaking english retrowire May 2017 #141

In a perfect world yes. Caliman73 May 2017 #148

Maybe it's just best to drop labels altogether nt retrowire May 2017 #154

We need lables Caliman73 May 2017 #191

You've made excellent points retrowire May 2017 #204

the fact that we can have disagreements and converse is great Caliman73 May 2017 #206

Yes! retrowire May 2017 #209

Well, we don't know this man or his motives, do we? WinkyDink May 2017 #337

No we do not Caliman73 May 2017 #364

This is a 'they all do it thread' and it is nonsense. Demsrule86 May 2017 #6

I agree. mountain grammy May 2017 #15

Post removed Post removed May 2017 #86

I think the most telling thing is his description of the women with Hillary stickers... Demsrule86 May 2017 #177

Yes. That and his stance on the Confederate flag. I'm with you on this one. kcr May 2017 #184

Even the word liberal which I wear as a brand of honor is in general a disparaging word in GOP Demsrule86 May 2017 #192

It does. kcr May 2017 #210

You know, it's the oddest thing. When I put on my yoga pants... Honeycombe8 May 2017 #295

Oh, that hadn't occurred to me. Could be. nt Honeycombe8 May 2017 #292

Agreed. kcr May 2017 #163

+1. nt Honeycombe8 May 2017 #296

Until very recently, the removal of flags and statues was far from 'easy' Kentonio May 2017 #7

Does he have any proof about these women in treestar May 2017 #8

That says repug to me...the wording and the hatred of Hillary. Demsrule86 May 2017 #10

Yep. Can't picture a Hillary supporter treestar May 2017 #12

Some will. Society has conditioned people to associate "Black Men" and "scary" for a long time. forjusticethunders May 2017 #56

This is BS...it only serves to help the right...and no I don't believe any person Demsrule86 May 2017 #175

I don't have to guess WellDarn May 2017 #182

He won't help his kids by helping elect GOP types...I think he is a fraud....and a conservative. Demsrule86 May 2017 #193

Oh good, a lecture n/t WellDarn May 2017 #200

Welcome to DU... Demsrule86 May 2017 #333

The Right derives its power from racism. forjusticethunders May 2017 #331

Baloney demonizing Democrats weakens the Democratic Party and our ability to fight the right on Demsrule86 May 2017 #332

sorry, but racial prejudice burrows into all corners of white society. Bucky May 2017 #73

Yeah, the parties all the same why even bother ....sarcasm. Demsrule86 May 2017 #178

It's not so much voting for them treestar May 2017 #308

That's exactly why someone had to share their story IronLionZion May 2017 #82

And we all tell our own 'lies' I don't buy this story...I really don't Demsrule86 May 2017 #179

I have family who voted for Obama AND Hillary who I'm sure would do exactly that NickB79 May 2017 #238

I agree, people can be complex treestar May 2017 #309

I've seen this kind of prejudice too. I agree with the farmer about that. yardwork May 2017 #347

Agree--sexism is just as bad as racism, but this guy spooky3 May 2017 #13

Honest question WellDarn May 2017 #312

The irony is rich FLPanhandle May 2017 #19

Isn't odd that this is so similar to the GOP meme about how Democrats are the real 'racists'. Demsrule86 May 2017 #180

I don't remember seeing many Hillary t-shirts NewJeffCT May 2017 #57

yes, you should trust our lived experiences more than your own discomfort La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #159

Broad brushing a group of people is ridiculous joeybee12 May 2017 #14

He's Telling The Truth.... LovingA2andMI May 2017 #29

You might think what you wrote is logical but.its not joeybee12 May 2017 #121

I Do Think That.... LovingA2andMI May 2017 #124

His prejudices against white liberals carry as much overreach as white prejudices do Bucky May 2017 #75

Really? LovingA2andMI May 2017 #90

Look, he's said "white liberals" not "some white liberals" are racist. Bucky May 2017 #96

Actually, it's... LovingA2andMI May 2017 #102

exactly joeybee12 May 2017 #122

Maybe you should scroll down the thread LovingA2andMI May 2017 #136

Maybe not joeybee12 May 2017 #147

Well, well.... LovingA2andMI May 2017 #152

You don't get it and you don't want to joeybee12 May 2017 #150

Actually, yes, I do... LovingA2andMI May 2017 #162

lol no. La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #160

K&R Quayblue May 2017 #16

Truth hurts, IronLionZion. WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #17

Finally, someone willing to speak out about the true villains in our society ... dawg May 2017 #18

Post Like These.... LovingA2andMI May 2017 #31

Agree. Ms. Toad May 2017 #43

The little things are the hardest. Caliman73 May 2017 #196

Also agree True Dough May 2017 #93

Why deal with any issues at all? IronLionZion May 2017 #41

Fine. dawg May 2017 #51

What Will It "Get Him (or her)"? LovingA2andMI May 2017 #60

When you start a conversation, you can't just expect everyone to automatically agree with you. dawg May 2017 #62

"well-being of minorities in this country"..... LovingA2andMI May 2017 #70

Maybe having the Republicans in charge for eight more years will enlighten *your* world view. dawg May 2017 #78

"White liberals aren't pure enough for the AA community." LovingA2andMI May 2017 #84

Whatever. dawg May 2017 #87

The "he must be lying!" type of responses feed into the racism the man is talking about Tarc May 2017 #20

Its amazing how many dont get it. Its the "NIMBY" mindset. 7962 May 2017 #79

Get this all the time zipplewrath May 2017 #164

He hits all the GOP BS memes...he may very well be lying. Demsrule86 May 2017 #181

You are a part of the problem Tarc May 2017 #205

Sounds like an endless unsolvable problem treestar May 2017 #349

He must be new to Albemarle... Blue_Tires May 2017 #21

Albermale went for Hillary...my family is from the area. Demsrule86 May 2017 #183

My dad was born and raised in C'ville (segregated high school) Blue_Tires May 2017 #233

My cousins all went to Charolottesville Demsrule86 May 2017 #234

Subtle racism. Because that's the most awful form of racism right now. ProfessorPlum May 2017 #22

Conservative racists know they're racist, and are often proud of it or don't care IronLionZion May 2017 #25

Judging from the responses here, it looks like you struck a nerve. nt WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #45

It needed to be done IronLionZion May 2017 #48

The responses you're getting are enlightening Tarc May 2017 #63

I applaud you for doing it True Dough May 2017 #109

That's a lot clearer ... knightmaar May 2017 #81

Not Just In Charlottesville, Virginia..... LovingA2andMI May 2017 #26

To start with, I'll say I could easily be wrong, BobTheSubgenius May 2017 #27

I don't see a purity test at all. Ms. Toad May 2017 #50

I don't get how he knows who calls the cops on him knightmaar May 2017 #28

Well said SHRED May 2017 #34

Generalization..... LovingA2andMI May 2017 #37

Who said that? I certainly didn't. knightmaar May 2017 #52

Dismissing HIS experience and HIS feelings.... LovingA2andMI May 2017 #55

I'm not dismissing his feelings. knightmaar May 2017 #76

It is HIS Experience... LovingA2andMI May 2017 #95

You've Now Gone Around The Bend ProfessorGAC May 2017 #105

It's The Point.... LovingA2andMI May 2017 #112

I'm sorry, and embarassed Ms. Toad May 2017 #131

Thank you.... LovingA2andMI May 2017 #135

I Dismissed Exactly What? ProfessorGAC May 2017 #166

The "Debate", you described... LovingA2andMI May 2017 #168

How Convenient! ProfessorGAC May 2017 #171

My Logic... LovingA2andMI May 2017 #189

Do You Do Stand Up? ProfessorGAC May 2017 #302

How about You're Delusional.... LovingA2andMI May 2017 #319

His subtle sexism regarding the women in yoga pants statement should be dismissed. Sorry. kcr May 2017 #221

How Do You Know The Experiences Or What Is Seen In His Town??? LovingA2andMI May 2017 #229

Is His Experience and Truth the Only One, Ever and Ever for All Time??????? kcr May 2017 #232

What a disgusting reply.... LovingA2andMI May 2017 #239

Well WellDarn May 2017 #241

Yes, it has... LovingA2andMI May 2017 #250

Yet you are certainly free to make assumptions about who you reply to kcr May 2017 #243

Based SOLELY on your misinformed reply... LovingA2andMI May 2017 #248

Based on your treatment of other people in this thread n/t kcr May 2017 #252

Sad.... LovingA2andMI May 2017 #254

Oh well. Other people will see what I have to say kcr May 2017 #260

He may very well have seen a housewife nervously retreat into her house shortly before the cops... Nitram May 2017 #47

"housewife"? Was she wearing a housecoat and slippers, with curlers in her hair? Coventina May 2017 #61

In the middle of the day, a woman who is still at home is a housewife. Nitram May 2017 #68

Wow. Stereotype much? Is a single woman who lives alone and works night shift Coventina May 2017 #77

I can forgive the man's use of the term "housewife" in the context of the nervous nellie... Nitram May 2017 #85

Oh, so if I point out sexism I'm being disruptive. Got it. Coventina May 2017 #91

Thank you. cwydro May 2017 #98

. Coventina May 2017 #99

Oh, so as a woman people call the police on you because you don't look like you belong in their Nitram May 2017 #104

Nice try to dig yourself out of the ugly hole you made for yourself. cwydro May 2017 #118

You are adorable! You sure seem to know all about me and my life experiences. Coventina May 2017 #129

The only assumption I made was that you would rather take issue with a stereotyopical term for a Nitram May 2017 #158

I am in complete agreement with the OP. I think the gentleman's remarks Coventina May 2017 #165

It is a GOP word...would be money this guy is GOP. Demsrule86 May 2017 #185

I'm a university professor. a la izquierda May 2017 #92

Just try to not be home in the "middle" of the day. Coventina May 2017 #97

A woman at home in the daytime is a "housewife"? cwydro May 2017 #94

LOL!! Coventina May 2017 #100

Surely you are not as ignorant as this post makes you seem. cwydro May 2017 #101

Especially if she's wearing yoga pants! :sarcasm: kcr May 2017 #169

post 25 has the full text of it IronLionZion May 2017 #53

When you observe one event following another consistently, Ms. Toad May 2017 #58

Well said. I will add kcr May 2017 #167

yup Skittles May 2017 #307

People with privilege can't wait to tell the oppressed they're wrong about their experience. WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #32

As this thread proves. Ms. Toad May 2017 #59

Yep, it's like clockwork. WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #65

Exactly!!! LovingA2andMI May 2017 #106

Yep, somehow it is. Quayblue May 2017 #119

I hear you. WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #126

+1 La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #161

This message was self-deleted by its author yuiyoshida May 2017 #39

K&R lunasun May 2017 #42

I live in Charlottesville and I read this post on FB. Nitram May 2017 #46

Yup, it's just the beginning. The tip of the iceberg IronLionZion May 2017 #49

I would love to support this famer but his logic is beyond flawed. ATL Ebony May 2017 #54

Cop killings have been a problem with lots of attention lately IronLionZion May 2017 #66

I don't see why he thinks it is not Richard Spencer treestar May 2017 #346

Richard Spencer types wake up thinking how to send us to the gas chamber IronLionZion May 2017 #353

So they are careless that they've killed somebody indirectly treestar May 2017 #356

Our prisons are filled with a lot more minorities than they should IronLionZion May 2017 #358

Yes, I agree. I saw one about stealing a bicycle treestar May 2017 #362

The movie "Get Out" deals with the same issue. AJT May 2017 #64

Pretending progressives don't perform racist or other bigoted actions hurts others and the movement WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #67

Oh for sure...I think searching for imperfect 'liberals' and running them down and trashing the Demsrule86 May 2017 #188

Your sarcasm makes it difficult for me to grasp your point. WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #198

What do they do? treestar May 2017 #350

Are you interested in hearing what happens so you can learn and fight it, or are you interested WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #359

Learn it and fight it. treestar May 2017 #361

Excellent. WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #365

Thanks I shall read the links treestar May 2017 #376

He knows who called the cops on him? SHRED May 2017 #69

Translation: the message is uncomfortable, the messenger must be lying. Ms. Toad May 2017 #74

His stereotype description SHRED May 2017 #80

Nope. Ms. Toad May 2017 #116

Overall sad, but also encouraging. Unca Jim May 2017 #72

Full Text of Chris Newman's Facebook Post: IronLionZion May 2017 #88

Yes WellDarn May 2017 #240

Yup IronLionZion May 2017 #242

This. Iggo May 2017 #89

Racism is now more subtle. Baitball Blogger May 2017 #107

Nervous White Women in Yoga Pants? flibbitygiblets May 2017 #110

Good post. cwydro May 2017 #212

Are we beyond hope? WellDarn May 2017 #111

Yep. nt Quayblue May 2017 #146

Sad but true, I'm afraid n/t WellDarn May 2017 #151

. Iggo May 2017 #187

The Detail In Some is Head Deep.... LovingA2andMI May 2017 #259

Deflection is both a tactic and an instinct. Who is being complained about is more important lunasun May 2017 #360

Just had a heartbreaking discussion with a young AA patient of mine ismnotwasm May 2017 #114

I believe him get the red out May 2017 #115

"Self-examination is necessary." Iggo May 2017 #127

Fear goes both ways IronLionZion May 2017 #139

I agree with you get the red out May 2017 #176

Chris and Annie Newman: IronLionZion May 2017 #120

Lovely Family.... LovingA2andMI May 2017 #132

Thanks n/t WellDarn May 2017 #156

Thank you. Iggo May 2017 #216

There are plenty of Liberals out there that do not have interactions with minorities nini May 2017 #123

Liberal racism is real... HipChick May 2017 #125

Racism is real, racial biases are real.... LovingA2andMI May 2017 #128

Useless observation post to follow. LOL Lib May 2017 #130

Link to article about the house mentioned above. LOL Lib May 2017 #144

Having been the person who had to respond to calls like this Lee-Lee May 2017 #133

Of course it exists. It's the conflating with the movement to remove Confederate statues kcr May 2017 #172

It was more of a ... remove the plank from your eye before pointing out the speck.. Caliman73 May 2017 #261

I didn't see it as equating those things either, because I don't think that's what he doing. kcr May 2017 #272

I think we see it differently Caliman73 May 2017 #288

No to the first question. Yes to the second two. kcr May 2017 #290

But other people trust them...especially to deal with people of color Caliman73 May 2017 #294

Right. I guess I'm just not being very clear. kcr May 2017 #297

I think I understand what you are saying. Caliman73 May 2017 #299

You know? It's weird this whole thing about liberal vs conservative areas kcr May 2017 #303

It is in the mindset. Caliman73 May 2017 #305

Hey white people in this thread, a few questions: WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #134

Great Questions.... LovingA2andMI May 2017 #140

That kind of self-examination makes people uncomfortable. (n/t) Iggo May 2017 #142

It does indeed. I'm hoping, on a message board, people can feel their feelings in the privacy of WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #145

Sometimes.... LovingA2andMI May 2017 #149

Totally agree. WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #153

Really? Demsrule86 May 2017 #190

Yes. It really does. (n/t) Iggo May 2017 #197

Being more worried about clueless liberals than out-and-out racists does not make someone WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #201

The man mouths common GOP talking points ...'why liberals are the racist' (sarcasm). Demsrule86 May 2017 #236

The problem is that if "clueless liberal" calls the cops on a man who is farming while black and WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #237

You totally misinterpret his statement. kwassa May 2017 #211

Wrong city, but it doesn't really matter. dawg May 2017 #217

You're right. I do have the wrong city, and state. kwassa May 2017 #218

Charlotte and Charlottesville are so different. yardwork May 2017 #316

"he is more afraid of 'evil' liberals than white racists" You completely missed the point there NickB79 May 2017 #244

Exactly WellDarn May 2017 #245

This n/t WellDarn May 2017 #143

I am allowed to believe that white racism is a pervasive problem, and ... dawg May 2017 #186

How would you propose discussing racism within the party? WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #203

Well, quite frankly, it does need to be discussed. dawg May 2017 #208

Interesting, I see the farmer's mention of an HRC sticker to be a way of saying "even the most WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #213

What you call "political points" is now turning into matters of life and death. dawg May 2017 #215

When and where should people criticize their own party? WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #219

Let's start by not pissing on the people who worked to get the monuments taken down. dawg May 2017 #220

If he feels people who call themselves allies aren't doing a good job being allies, why should he WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #222

I never once suggested he should thank anyone or praise anyone for the statues. dawg May 2017 #223

I appreciate your answers and find your perspective helpful, so thanks. WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #225

Just curious, are you 100% unwilling to entertain the idea ... dawg May 2017 #224

I'd say 95 percent. WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #226

Many POC have managed to express that perspective much better kcr May 2017 #246

What's the GOP talking point in his post? WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #247

Liberals are just PC fake in their fight to take down Confederate monuments. kcr May 2017 #249

But it's true that it's much easier for white people to fight symbols -- symbols that are WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #267

You would rather white people decide it's better to just leave the monuments there? kcr May 2017 #274

No, I would like white people to not act like racism is dead when they tear down statues -- WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #279

Ridiculous behavior. No argument from me. kcr May 2017 #287

The historic relationship between white women and black men has been a troubled one for generations. WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #291

I'm fully aware of all of that in your first paragraph. kcr May 2017 #293

Fair enough. WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #300

Perfect WellDarn May 2017 #255

Completely and utterly not what I said kcr May 2017 #257

But you didn't say that you were WellDarn May 2017 #262

I did no such thing. Or you're confusing me with another poster. kcr May 2017 #265

He didn't say they weren't the real problem. Ms. Toad May 2017 #275

Are you reading any of my other posts in this thread? kcr May 2017 #277

I have been reading the other posts - they are similar in tone. Ms. Toad May 2017 #278

Oh, come on! kcr May 2017 #289

+1000000000000000000000. Thank you so much for this post. VespertineIconoclast May 2017 #266

You're welcome, and thank you for the feedback! WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #281

Has nothing to do with whether it is true or not treestar May 2017 #310

K&R .. n/t obnoxiousdrunk May 2017 #155

K&R Solly Mack May 2017 #202

. kwassa May 2017 #214

Here's an interesting fact from another "liberal" city WellDarn May 2017 #235

Becoming a blue city isn't enough to change segregation kwassa May 2017 #253

Absolutely correct WellDarn May 2017 #258

I agree with you. kwassa May 2017 #264

Yes, there are liberal racists. Lots of them. But, no. You do not have to agree with everything kcr May 2017 #263

All Who Are Willing To Engage in What Is Known As "Uncomfortable Conversations".... LovingA2andMI May 2017 #269

Did I miss it? Iggo May 2017 #375

I've seen this type of behavior in Asheville and Chapel Hill before. bathroommonkey76 May 2017 #271

The South is gaining population IronLionZion May 2017 #280

VA is blue b/c of NVA bathroommonkey76 May 2017 #286

This discussion exposes there is a whole lot in between IronLionZion May 2017 #314

Well, I'M *not* surprised. no_hypocrisy May 2017 #273

I know.... MountCleaners May 2017 #276

Ohh...that reminds me of an article I saw awhile back: WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #283

Great article. Iggo May 2017 #298

Oh, I've seen that in liberal hippie Takoma Park, MD IronLionZion May 2017 #317

Sorry I'm late to this thread--experience even in Oakland is the same. Starry Messenger May 2017 #304

Oooh. When I get home I am so reading this thread The Polack MSgt May 2017 #306

Peace! IronLionZion May 2017 #313

Cultural Appropriation is a very racist concept NobodyHere May 2017 #311

"while having not a single Black owner, partner, employee, or vendor." IronLionZion May 2017 #315

I don't get the whole cultural appropriation thing either. I buy everything else from the guy in the stevenleser May 2017 #321

The root is in power dynamic IronLionZion May 2017 #324

I'll continue to read more about it but I think I understand what is attempting to be implied. stevenleser May 2017 #328

I think cultural appropriation is bullshit too romanic May 2017 #327

Potentially it is a legitimate grievance assuming it is not a superficial observation. stevenleser May 2017 #354

Why bring hip hop up at all then? NobodyHere May 2017 #368

Again that's not what the guy is saying. romanic May 2017 #370

Why do they need someone black to sell hip hop items? NobodyHere May 2017 #371

Why do people need jobs and income? IronLionZion May 2017 #372

Kind of avoids the point NobodyHere May 2017 #373

Jobs are the point IronLionZion May 2017 #374

And God forfend a Black person eats PIZZA! Or listens to Beethoven! WinkyDink May 2017 #336

Black people were denied vanilla ice cream in the Jim Crow south except on Independence Day IronLionZion May 2017 #357

Profound peggysue2 May 2017 #320

We all have different perspectives and experiences IronLionZion May 2017 #340

Really? Jimvanhise May 2017 #322

Mortgage lenders have already faced federal penalties for discrimination IronLionZion May 2017 #325

Block Count on this thread alone... LovingA2andMI May 2017 #326

He thinks "wealthier neighborhoods" are LIBERAL? He thinks "cultural appropriation" is a WinkyDink May 2017 #330

I don't know the guy ahd haven't been to VA in a long time, but I believe him 100% DemocraticWing May 2017 #334

So let him side with the Republicans, like the insane Ben Carson. See how THAT will help. WinkyDink May 2017 #335

When a sports team gets coaching and training to improve their trouble spots IronLionZion May 2017 #342

Ryan. McConnell. Bannon. Pence. Graham. Mulvaney. TRUMP. And this guy thinks LIBERALS WinkyDink May 2017 #338

People are so busy going after that easy fix, going after that Confederate flag, that theyre not.. LexVegas May 2017 #339

I just wanted to thank you for hanging WellDarn May 2017 #352

I'm surprised it's gotten this big this quick. IronLionZion May 2017 #355

My thoughts.. cannabis_flower May 2017 #366

I agree. romanic May 2017 #367

#FarmingWhileBlack: Black Va. Farmer Says Nervous White Women in Yoga Pants More Dangerous Than... steve2470 May 2017 #369