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In reply to the discussion: Black Farmer Calls Out Liberal Racism In Powerful Facebook Message [View all]
IronLionZion
(51,212 posts)348. Communication is a critical component in change
so removing symbols can seem superficial now but have a profound effect on improving the morale of future societies where children didn't grow up seeing it.
History should be taught in schools and accurately represented. The point I was making is that these symbols were put up a lot more recently than people think. And they were deliberately put up to promote hate and intimidation, rather than heritage. That history has been lost on many who use the symbols today.
Symbols have meaning and can be very powerful as that meaning varies among people who have had different experiences and perspectives and interpret them in different ways. There are entire fields of study with people who get PhDs in symbolism used by various cultures and societies.
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Black Farmer Calls Out Liberal Racism In Powerful Facebook Message [View all]
IronLionZion
May 2017
OP
ROFL!! I know this is about a serious American epidemic, but your illustration had me LOL. eom
BlueCaliDem
May 2017
#36
It is good to drive them underground. Keep their rotten ideology contained & marginalized. . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2017
#345
It sends a message...and I really don't buy this anyway...in the middle of the Trump
Demsrule86
May 2017
#9
I.e. shut up - the impact liberal racism has on your daily life is irrelevant
Ms. Toad
May 2017
#268
Well if this sort of effort made by a Republican in my opinion succeeds...how do
Demsrule86
May 2017
#363
He has no idea who called the popo...and the fact he assumes it is a liberal with Hillary
Demsrule86
May 2017
#194
I think it is a BS article...and he is probably GOP...his memes are all GOP memes.
Demsrule86
May 2017
#351
I agree with your points here. I definitely see the farmer's point, but he's using stereotypes too.
yardwork
May 2017
#344
Maybe we could walk and chew gum at the same time. As a black man being harassed
tblue37
May 2017
#137
The problem is that most of the idiots flying them don't know they're flying the wrong one.
TheBlackAdder
May 2017
#30
And it's even more obvious for people up north who don't have any southern heritage
IronLionZion
May 2017
#35
It's not about individuals flying a flag or celebrating a Confederate icon...
Wounded Bear
May 2017
#71
LOL. he's not saying overt racism is better. sad that you think a flag of treachery and racism is
La Lioness Priyanka
May 2017
#157
Those familiar with stats will note you are committing what's called an Ecological Fallacy
stevenleser
May 2017
#329
I think the most telling thing is his description of the women with Hillary stickers...
Demsrule86
May 2017
#177
Even the word liberal which I wear as a brand of honor is in general a disparaging word in GOP
Demsrule86
May 2017
#192
Some will. Society has conditioned people to associate "Black Men" and "scary" for a long time.
forjusticethunders
May 2017
#56
This is BS...it only serves to help the right...and no I don't believe any person
Demsrule86
May 2017
#175
He won't help his kids by helping elect GOP types...I think he is a fraud....and a conservative.
Demsrule86
May 2017
#193
Baloney demonizing Democrats weakens the Democratic Party and our ability to fight the right on
Demsrule86
May 2017
#332
I have family who voted for Obama AND Hillary who I'm sure would do exactly that
NickB79
May 2017
#238
Isn't odd that this is so similar to the GOP meme about how Democrats are the real 'racists'.
Demsrule86
May 2017
#180
yes, you should trust our lived experiences more than your own discomfort
La Lioness Priyanka
May 2017
#159
His prejudices against white liberals carry as much overreach as white prejudices do
Bucky
May 2017
#75
When you start a conversation, you can't just expect everyone to automatically agree with you.
dawg
May 2017
#62
Maybe having the Republicans in charge for eight more years will enlighten *your* world view.
dawg
May 2017
#78
The "he must be lying!" type of responses feed into the racism the man is talking about
Tarc
May 2017
#20
Conservative racists know they're racist, and are often proud of it or don't care
IronLionZion
May 2017
#25
His subtle sexism regarding the women in yoga pants statement should be dismissed. Sorry.
kcr
May 2017
#221
He may very well have seen a housewife nervously retreat into her house shortly before the cops...
Nitram
May 2017
#47
"housewife"? Was she wearing a housecoat and slippers, with curlers in her hair?
Coventina
May 2017
#61
Wow. Stereotype much? Is a single woman who lives alone and works night shift
Coventina
May 2017
#77
I can forgive the man's use of the term "housewife" in the context of the nervous nellie...
Nitram
May 2017
#85
Oh, so as a woman people call the police on you because you don't look like you belong in their
Nitram
May 2017
#104
You are adorable! You sure seem to know all about me and my life experiences.
Coventina
May 2017
#129
The only assumption I made was that you would rather take issue with a stereotyopical term for a
Nitram
May 2017
#158
People with privilege can't wait to tell the oppressed they're wrong about their experience.
WhiskeyGrinder
May 2017
#32
Pretending progressives don't perform racist or other bigoted actions hurts others and the movement
WhiskeyGrinder
May 2017
#67
Oh for sure...I think searching for imperfect 'liberals' and running them down and trashing the
Demsrule86
May 2017
#188
Are you interested in hearing what happens so you can learn and fight it, or are you interested
WhiskeyGrinder
May 2017
#359
Deflection is both a tactic and an instinct. Who is being complained about is more important
lunasun
May 2017
#360
There are plenty of Liberals out there that do not have interactions with minorities
nini
May 2017
#123
Of course it exists. It's the conflating with the movement to remove Confederate statues
kcr
May 2017
#172
It was more of a ... remove the plank from your eye before pointing out the speck..
Caliman73
May 2017
#261
I didn't see it as equating those things either, because I don't think that's what he doing.
kcr
May 2017
#272
It does indeed. I'm hoping, on a message board, people can feel their feelings in the privacy of
WhiskeyGrinder
May 2017
#145
Being more worried about clueless liberals than out-and-out racists does not make someone
WhiskeyGrinder
May 2017
#201
The man mouths common GOP talking points ...'why liberals are the racist' (sarcasm).
Demsrule86
May 2017
#236
The problem is that if "clueless liberal" calls the cops on a man who is farming while black and
WhiskeyGrinder
May 2017
#237
"he is more afraid of 'evil' liberals than white racists" You completely missed the point there
NickB79
May 2017
#244
Interesting, I see the farmer's mention of an HRC sticker to be a way of saying "even the most
WhiskeyGrinder
May 2017
#213
Let's start by not pissing on the people who worked to get the monuments taken down.
dawg
May 2017
#220
If he feels people who call themselves allies aren't doing a good job being allies, why should he
WhiskeyGrinder
May 2017
#222
I appreciate your answers and find your perspective helpful, so thanks.
WhiskeyGrinder
May 2017
#225
But it's true that it's much easier for white people to fight symbols -- symbols that are
WhiskeyGrinder
May 2017
#267
You would rather white people decide it's better to just leave the monuments there?
kcr
May 2017
#274
No, I would like white people to not act like racism is dead when they tear down statues --
WhiskeyGrinder
May 2017
#279
The historic relationship between white women and black men has been a troubled one for generations.
WhiskeyGrinder
May 2017
#291
Yes, there are liberal racists. Lots of them. But, no. You do not have to agree with everything
kcr
May 2017
#263
All Who Are Willing To Engage in What Is Known As "Uncomfortable Conversations"....
LovingA2andMI
May 2017
#269
Sorry I'm late to this thread--experience even in Oakland is the same.
Starry Messenger
May 2017
#304
I don't get the whole cultural appropriation thing either. I buy everything else from the guy in the
stevenleser
May 2017
#321
I'll continue to read more about it but I think I understand what is attempting to be implied.
stevenleser
May 2017
#328
Potentially it is a legitimate grievance assuming it is not a superficial observation.
stevenleser
May 2017
#354
Black people were denied vanilla ice cream in the Jim Crow south except on Independence Day
IronLionZion
May 2017
#357
He thinks "wealthier neighborhoods" are LIBERAL? He thinks "cultural appropriation" is a
WinkyDink
May 2017
#330
I don't know the guy ahd haven't been to VA in a long time, but I believe him 100%
DemocraticWing
May 2017
#334
So let him side with the Republicans, like the insane Ben Carson. See how THAT will help.
WinkyDink
May 2017
#335
When a sports team gets coaching and training to improve their trouble spots
IronLionZion
May 2017
#342
Ryan. McConnell. Bannon. Pence. Graham. Mulvaney. TRUMP. And this guy thinks LIBERALS
WinkyDink
May 2017
#338