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268. I'm not sure how a health care provider suggesting talking to a hcp "fringes on defamation". Clarify

Sat Jul 7, 2012, 02:02 PM

Jul 2012

Yes, insomnia affects many women, like we peri and post menopausal women. It is common but not talked about a lot, leading many of us to think it is just us. But it isn't. It is common. Talking to a health care provider can give some other options. I've been there, both on the patient and the nurse side. 10 yrs into hot flashes and it sucks. I did hormone replacement therapy for 2 months once as was having them 36 times in 24 hrs and not getting much sleep. I've seen many women come into the clinic asking for help as it is a common issue.

Not sure how this "fringe on defamation" any more than my saying "if you've got in infected toe, it might behoove you to see a health care provider". It is a common issue, insomnia, and I did not mean to attach any sort of subjectiveness to what I wrote there.

And not sure how this "blast(s) it everywhere" since I hadn't seen anyone reply with all I did.

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The only person I know with an automatic generator Robb Jul 2012 #1

In that case, it would be acceptable. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #2

Yah, well, I think you're not going to win this one. MineralMan Jul 2012 #3

Thanks for the information, but there is a major flaw in applying your Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #7

What you think they need SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #11

That's not how noise ordinances are handled in other areas. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #17

I long for the day SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #21

This is just one straw of many. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #23

Ah, then isn't really the generator SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #24

On the contrary. I tolerated it as long as I could. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #36

Again, you're unlikely to be able to change the situation. MineralMan Jul 2012 #22

Just out of curiousity, are you working off known law, or is this just your opinion? Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #27

Everything I write here is my opinion, which you MineralMan Jul 2012 #30

I'm hoping that publicity will resolve the issue. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #40

All kinds of people that seem healthy and normal have issues that require power TheKentuckian Jul 2012 #47

He won't listen. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #52

I think you posted the wrong link maddezmom Jul 2012 #59

I have. Thanks for pointing it out. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #63

Auschwitz? Really? Brickbat Jul 2012 #76

It's pretty close to the windows. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #86

You do realize that making the comparison of a generator running outside your window Brickbat Jul 2012 #98

Exactly. HappyMe Jul 2012 #102

Expect more hyperbole as I continue to lose sleep. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #164

Not that I expect an answer SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #170

Once, a long time ago. I found them annoying. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #237

Your neighbor probably finds it annoying SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #286

+1 nt MADem Jul 2012 #301

I need emergency power within an hour of an outage ...... oldhippie Jul 2012 #142

Me thinks the person Shankapotomus Jul 2012 #228

Me thinks you haven't read the original post. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #241

Air conditioning. Heaters. Comfort. Buy a set of $1.00 ear plugs uppityperson Jul 2012 #186

And ear plugs keep the cockroaches out too Submariner Jul 2012 #306

I cannot believe a jury let this stand. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #305

Beware of comparisons like this, as backlash may commeth, keystone writer uppityperson Jul 2012 #307

I too have a transfer switch for my generator. notadmblnd Jul 2012 #179

We don't have ice storms in Florida. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #242

extreme heat can be just as debilitating as extreme cold notadmblnd Jul 2012 #255

Now that you mention it, there was nobody in the house during the Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #263

I don't know what to tell you. I live behind an international airport notadmblnd Jul 2012 #272

There's nothing that an extra $100,000 won't fix. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #274

People do have to be considerate flobee1 Jul 2012 #4

That's all I'm looking for. Some sensible reasoning that makes life bearable Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #13

Some places I've lived have db levels for acceptable noise levels. Then one RKP5637 Jul 2012 #191

I wonder how much those db meter cost? Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #243

I think temperature, humidity and wind direction affect the transfer of sound loudness. I just RKP5637 Jul 2012 #247

An older person could have many reasons for needing an automatic generator, pnwmom Jul 2012 #69

How close is it to your house, just out of curiousity? Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #88

I had it sitting about 15 ft flobee1 Jul 2012 #106

15 feet from the house is the recommended distance. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #245

I think about 20-25 feet, but I haven't measured. nt pnwmom Jul 2012 #116

No lights at night for 5 blocks in any direction during the last outage flobee1 Jul 2012 #104

I can't see that far, with all the vegetation and hilliness around here. Five blocks? Wow. n/t pnwmom Jul 2012 #120

I wish I had the money for a whole house, automatic generator SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #5

There are variables which make my situation unbearable. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #8

If the noise is unbearable SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #14

So you don't have a problem if I start playing elevator noise at two in the morning? Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #42

Personally, it wouldn't bother me SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #51

If noise doesn't bother you at all--or so you say since it's not an immediate problem, Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #56

I don't let little things bother me SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #61

You're making a subjective decision on something you know absolutely nothing about. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #70

I live right next door to one and my only reaction to it is jealousy, pnwmom Jul 2012 #78

I was born in the tropics. I can stand the heat. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #90

Here's another tip, given to me by a doctor. pnwmom Jul 2012 #110

Actually, it was very helpful last night when I wrote a sign that said, Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #246

I'm shocked, I tell you, just shocked n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #285

I can imagine that would be very helpful, based on my own experience pnwmom Jul 2012 #312

As are you, on two points SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #81

You haven't told me how close that generator is to your house. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #92

Actually, I did tell you in another post SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #97

Elevator music serves no purpose and isn't "white noise," like a generator. n/t pnwmom Jul 2012 #71

Gotcha! Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #93

I consider it white noise, and I live next door to one. Once it's on, it's a bland, continuous hum. pnwmom Jul 2012 #119

It makes me feel like a trapped animal because it sounds so unnatural. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #248

I have a whole house automatic generator and it makes less noise than byeya Jul 2012 #74

lawnmowers and leaf blowers are incredibly loud. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #96

Guess that will be your next target SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #99

Not unless they try to do it at night. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #249

Some of us work night shift, like hospital nurses and try to sleep during day when those uppityperson Jul 2012 #256

I've kept up SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #288

+1 wordpix Jul 2012 #175

I would like one of those too--a natural gas one. nt MADem Jul 2012 #303

The power goes out in my town regularly. Tracer Jul 2012 #6

You hit the key issue. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #10

I would need one for my CPAP and there are plenty of people with breathing problems hobbit709 Jul 2012 #39

Hi hobbit. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #45

You keep asserting that there is "no health issue" PotatoChip Jul 2012 #162

Though it's something to think about, there is no one in this neighborhood who has Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #251

My neighbor died last week when the power went down for a little over an hour. bluedigger Jul 2012 #9

No one is sick next door. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #12

Mutual accommodation is always the first and best way to resolve differences. bluedigger Jul 2012 #44

He's got good ole boy connections. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #50

So, based on your OP SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #53

I took a law class and the issue of noise nuisance is a big concern Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #60

OH you took a law class SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #66

Just looking for the law on the matter. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #100

What is the local ordinance? Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #279

Well, there's always the traditional method of conflict resolution. bluedigger Jul 2012 #62

I know. That's why I'm hoping this thread will reach someone who has been there before, Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #101

Oooh, a file SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #109

stop it you're killing me... dionysus Jul 2012 #152

First, you need to document your injury. bluedigger Jul 2012 #123

Outside temp, humidity, all the weather info also. uppityperson Jul 2012 #196

db meter is definitely something I will invest in. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #252

Weather will give possible reasons WHY they are using generators. uppityperson Jul 2012 #254

We aren't having major heat issues at night. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #275

you said it's happening a few times a year. did it go off last night? maddezmom Jul 2012 #276

Have you answered anyone asking why you don't just use earplugs? pnwmom Jul 2012 #127

Yes. Several times. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #253

There are a bunch of different kinds and some are more comfortable than others. pnwmom Jul 2012 #310

Thank you. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #311

Perhaps you'll feel better after catching up on your sleep. HereSince1628 Jul 2012 #15

This will be an ongoing issue, so a nap will not matter. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #18

My wife and I intend to install an automatic generator. GarroHorus Jul 2012 #16

Hope you have a large sideyard between houses. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #20

Where we lived in the southern mountains we had to buy a propane tank for byeya Jul 2012 #103

Heres a little tip I learned years ago madokie Jul 2012 #108

great suggestion maddezmom Jul 2012 #112

I'll look to see if I can find a good source Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #198

Earplugs work wonders. hobbit709 Jul 2012 #19

Exactly. Those of us who'd have a problem with generator noise, would have a problem pnwmom Jul 2012 #84

You know the only kind of "white noise" I tolerate is natural Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #105

My alarm clock can be set to make the sound all night. If it's on when you go to sleep, pnwmom Jul 2012 #114

I might try something in the future, but I think that comment number 138 has been Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #166

Maybe they don't want a freezer load of frozen food to be ruined? (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #25

Freezers don't defrost in five hours if you're not constantly opening and closing the door. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #28

Look, you've already admitted that this is just the latest issue with the neighbor SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #34

This is a symptom to a larger disease. A pattern that continues and needs to be stopped. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #107

I don't need case law to back up my opinion, because I'm not trying to sue anyone SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #139

This is only the first day of the search. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #167

i think you're exhibit A of the symptom, actually. and you're quite ticked off and surprised that dionysus Jul 2012 #158

Not surprised at all. However, there are some people that understand the Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #169

Invest in some ear plugs. tammywammy Jul 2012 #26

Oh, he knows how I feel. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #31

I doubt very much that the President of The United States MineralMan Jul 2012 #41

I'm just about there with you SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #57

Since the both of you have nothing but opinion to add to the discussion, Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #113

And all you have is opinion as well SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #135

I have more than opinion. I have property rights. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #171

To your first point, your property rights are not being violated, based on what you've already said SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #180

You are a literal man, Mineral Man. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #111

wth? why are you bringing Obama into this? maddezmom Jul 2012 #67

Auschwitz too! HappyMe Jul 2012 #80

yup maddezmom Jul 2012 #91

Same response. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #118

My gosh. Am I the only one that knows that generators give off exhaust? Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #117

Only if you run them inside an enclosed space. hobbit709 Jul 2012 #132

No. They give off exhaust even when they're outside. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #172

So do cars. Are you going after them next? Good god, a CAR!! Idling 2 door down! Auschwitz!!!!1111 uppityperson Jul 2012 #197

I'm glad you're having fun at my expense. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #257

Which bothers you worse? The noise or the exhaust? I thought this was about the noise? And did you uppityperson Jul 2012 #260

Why can't we multi-task on this thread? Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #266

OK, multi-task. The Auschwitz comparison is offensive. Would you edit it out? uppityperson Jul 2012 #271

Thank you uppityperson. It *is* offensive. PotatoChip Jul 2012 #281

I would hate for them to be locked out of their topic for a hidden post. uppityperson Jul 2012 #283

But not at dangerous levels hobbit709 Jul 2012 #277

of course they do maddezmom Jul 2012 #136

You're not the one who has to sit and wait to find out if it becomes a Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #173

I'd suggest if you are concerned you purchase a carbon monoxide alarm maddezmom Jul 2012 #182

Exactly. That and a db meter. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #258

Carbon monoxide detectors aren't expensive tammywammy Jul 2012 #185

Thank you. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #259

So now it's not the noise, it's the CO? SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #143

Point to me where I said I wanted generators banned. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #177

What you don't seem to understand SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #207

Here is my response to Mineral Man Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #115

have you contacted your HOA? or an attorney? maddezmom Jul 2012 #125

If I have another experience with a lawyer, I want to know the answers before I ask the questions. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #178

you just jumped the shark by trying to bring Obama into this. dionysus Jul 2012 #165

You're just taking the comment too literally. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #181

sorry you can't sleep through them maddezmom Jul 2012 #29

I'm only opposed to them at night when there is no reason for them to come on. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #33

And who made you the arbiter of what constitutes "reason for them to come on"? n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #43

Property laws. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #82

And you've said that your local property laws permit this SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #94

It happens here all the time. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #121

If the local laws allow the noise, then what grounds do you think you have? SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #131

So who are you to decide that there is HappyMe Jul 2012 #46

Property Laws and Noise Nuisance Issues. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #122

More of the neighbors here HappyMe Jul 2012 #38

My folks got one a few years ago after a power outage in MI for 10+ days maddezmom Jul 2012 #58

Sounds like they live in a rural area where they have long periods without power. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #126

no they live in a suburban neighborhood. Probably 40 feet between one neighbor and 100 feet of maddezmom Jul 2012 #146

We live about 35 feet apart from house to house. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #188

why don't you build the barrier or ask them to go in with you on the cost? maddezmom Jul 2012 #192

The man makes nearly $200,000 annual taxpayer paid income Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #203

so you haven't discussed this with your neighbor maddezmom Jul 2012 #209

Interesting SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #211

that sounds like a proper reason to have a generator. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #124

So noisy generators are the fault of republicans now? flvegan Jul 2012 #32

I'm pointing out the inconsistency in their philosophy. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #35

I fail to see how this falls under a supposed violation of your property rights. flvegan Jul 2012 #64

You're in real estate and don't know about noise nuisance? Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #75

But you've already said that the noise ordinance is not being broken n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #89

Haven't confirmed that. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #128

I am and I do. flvegan Jul 2012 #194

Well, it might explain why we have so many residental problems in Florida. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #206

We do have a good amount of whining prats here, if that's what you mean. flvegan Jul 2012 #215

Agree SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #37

Do you live next to a house with an automatic generator? Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #65

Yes, I do SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #73

How close is it to your house? Is there any barriers to cut down on the noise? Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #77

No barriers, and about 15 feet from my bedroom wall and a window n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #83

And you don't have hearing problems? Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #130

No, I have no hearing problems n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #140

I understand your point of view liberal N proud Jul 2012 #48

I think we've reduced the issue to night noise. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #134

I grew up next to railroad tracks liberal N proud Jul 2012 #163

I think there's a part of the brain that adjusts for the limited interruption. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #208

Actually that is backwards. Brains adjust for constant noise vs intermittent. uppityperson Jul 2012 #210

I'm glad you're not my neighbor.. Upton Jul 2012 #49

After about four posts, I kept seeing Gladys Kravitz in my mind's eye n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #68

Check out my website. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #72

Oh wow, nightmare??!! It must be hard being you n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #87

I'm as normal as they come, more tolerant than most. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #137

Oh yeah, you're very tolerant SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #141

It's taken me over ten years to reach this point. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #145

I'm bored SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #161

At least we've reached the point where you admit that you're here Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #193

Your "nightmare"..?? Upton Jul 2012 #129

There's a two million dollar settlement in a Tampa archive that points out Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #144

Heaven forbid that a local community make decisions for themselves SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #147

Fraud and conspiracies normal in your area, are they? Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #189

Many places have to have a pump on their property.... NCTraveler Jul 2012 #54

Yep, if we don't have power, we don't have water, either. It's a drag. Brickbat Jul 2012 #79

That's an emergency use of a generator. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #190

Where is this located? And what is the distance between the houses? Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #148

You do realize how easy it is to see if they are breaking the..... NCTraveler Jul 2012 #234

Earplugs are cheap, safe, and easy to use. pnwmom Jul 2012 #55

Having those things in my ears every night will only aggravate my insomnia. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #149

Which type have you tried? Any? The soft quishy foam ones? Have you ever tried any or just assuming? uppityperson Jul 2012 #200

If I were to go into what it takes for me to fall asleep, we could begin a whole different thread. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #212

You haven't tried any, just assume they won't work. That'll look good in court. uppityperson Jul 2012 #218

Just for you, uppityperson, I will try them on before I go to court. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #230

the best we've found, most comfortable, are the squishy foam ones with rounded ends uppityperson Jul 2012 #240

Here... Ian David Jul 2012 #85

I fall asleep to white noise. That would never work for me. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #150

You'd rather take it to court than TRY earplugs. Wow. uppityperson Jul 2012 #201

I'm trying to tell you that earplugs won't work. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #213

You are unwilling to even try earplugs. Would rather go to court. Gotcha. uppityperson Jul 2012 #216

You are very blessed not to understand the complications of insomina. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #231

You are very blessed with the gift of assuming. nt uppityperson Jul 2012 #236

how often is this happening? maddezmom Jul 2012 #204

Something has been going on recently. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #214

A few times a year? Again, I suggest talking to your neighbor. maddezmom Jul 2012 #238

The fault is with your electric utility. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #95

This is a Republican county so I don't expect the situation to get better. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #151

Get earplugs JVS Jul 2012 #133

I'm an insominac that falls asleep to white noise. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #153

Find out what the noise Turbineguy Jul 2012 #138

138 remarks before someone responds in a reasonable manner. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #156

did you read #108? maddezmom Jul 2012 #159

And he won't try earplugs because he already knows "they won't work". uppityperson Jul 2012 #202

Yes, thank you! I went to hunt it down after reading your comment. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #217

When is an emergency not an emergency? alphafemale Jul 2012 #154

I refuse to be abused. I've been a victim for too long. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #157

I feel abused and victimized by your definitions of abuse and victimhood. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #168

You have an easy out. Put me on ignore and you shall be FREE! Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #219

Abusing the 911 system with frivolous calls makes you the victim? uppityperson Jul 2012 #205

We've run our generator at night before. noamnety Jul 2012 #155

Sounds to me your situation qualifies as an emergency. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #160

and what of the CPAP machines? noamnety Jul 2012 #239

I had an overflowing sump pump during Hurr. Irene & friend brought generator wordpix Jul 2012 #174

I wouldn't have any trouble defending your right to have a generator in that situation. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #220

you're using DU to complain about other people getting power to their homes during an outage... pepperbear Jul 2012 #176

My position is that generators should be used for emergencies, and a power outage AT NIGHT Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #221

Some people have sleep apnea and can only sleep with a CPAP machine. randome Jul 2012 #232

AHHHH!!! Stray cats are having sex outside! I'm calling the cops. AHHH! alphafemale Jul 2012 #183

Good one! SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #195

Actually, it was a very weak. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #224

It would be inhumane to allow cats to fight for two to five hours. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #223

I said SEX. Not FIGHT. But, I think we may be making progress toward your problem. alphafemale Jul 2012 #313

If those generators belong to you're power company. If they provid you're house with power........ wandy Jul 2012 #184

Not the situation. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #225

Sorry it isn't. Noise ordnances can be trickey.......... wandy Jul 2012 #244

The problem is not the generator. obxhead Jul 2012 #187

Yep, that's what I was thinking about in my post #191. If I had a RKP5637 Jul 2012 #199

Mod it, add a sound barrier, and build a cistern and point it away from the houses. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #227

It's amazing, isn't it. In the big picture it's a simple solution. I can see how RKP5637 Jul 2012 #235

You have no idea how much love and appreciation I'm sending to you. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #295

Muffler, design and noise baffles upi402 Jul 2012 #222

He donates to Republican candidates, so I'm guessing so. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #229

108, 138 and 187 Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #226

I understand having sleep issues and having things further affect the ability to sleep. uppityperson Jul 2012 #233

and all this for a few times a year maddezmom Jul 2012 #250

The fact that this is just one symptom of a larger disease in this community is something you Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #262

I haven't missed anything. maddezmom Jul 2012 #270

If I should take that route, the generator will only be Exhbit H. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #294

looks like you've got a big list against your neighbor. However, if you were truly worried maddezmom Jul 2012 #298

So I'll try your advice and try the earplugs to see if old age has improved my tolerance Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #261

I'm not sure how a health care provider suggesting talking to a hcp "fringes on defamation". Clarify uppityperson Jul 2012 #268

Thank you for the additional information. It helped understand Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #273

It wasn't meant to suggest anything, why I wrote sincerely meant, not snark. uppityperson Jul 2012 #278

Oddly, I was doing fine until last night. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #292

Well, that's the way these forums go. People chime in with all sorts of help and then subthreads uppityperson Jul 2012 #296

hey, a man in search of a lawsuit is not a man to trifle with!!! ret5hd Jul 2012 #280

Where does he fare these days? Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #293

Lack of access to cold beer is automatically an emergency taterguy Jul 2012 #264

Hi taterguy! Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #267

I would file this under: 1st World problems Raine1967 Jul 2012 #265

So very true. Not much problem with generators where you live? Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #269

Just ducking back in for one more question: MineralMan Jul 2012 #282

I have yet to hear a thunderclap that is prolonged for a two hour interval. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #289

Really? In Florida? MineralMan Jul 2012 #299

yeah odd maddezmom Jul 2012 #302

non sequitor. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #304

Actually, it is not. MineralMan Jul 2012 #309

Speaking for myself and millions of Americans IDemo Jul 2012 #284

What does that have to do with generator noise? Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #287

It has to do with keeping the refrigerator running IDemo Jul 2012 #290

You'd best not move to Northern Liberties in Philadelphia. GoneOffShore Jul 2012 #291

You have to be a "reasonably affected" person (such as a city resident) quaker bill Jul 2012 #297

IMHO when the power goes out thats when you need your backup gen TeamPooka Jul 2012 #300

The discussion has now moved to Meta - GoneOffShore Jul 2012 #308

and it's been self-deleted as this one might will be maddezmom Jul 2012 #314

Thanks everyone who gave me good advice. I really appreciate those Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #315