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47. No. The Deplorables took American exceptionalism outside and beat it with a stick.

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Tue May 30, 2017, 06:15 AM

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Can anybody see a Sino-Franco-German alliance? [View all] DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 OP

I see a Franco-German alliance and a Sino-Russian one. roamer65 May 2017 #1

+1 dalton99a May 2017 #2

My bigger question is which side will Britain choose? roamer65 May 2017 #3

I can't see the Brits choosing China or Russia over Europe dalton99a May 2017 #4

Definitely. I don't think they will choose the US either. roamer65 May 2017 #6

The Brits will be in the wilderness with America, just one nation among many. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #8

Yep. dalton99a May 2017 #13

Russia's a loser. They don't make anything and they can't afford to buy anything. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #5

They "produce" one big thing. roamer65 May 2017 #7

I stand corrected. They are a big gas station. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #11

Pretty much. They soon will be under the boot of Beijing. roamer65 May 2017 #16

Russia has massive amounts of natural resources in general. PufPuf23 May 2017 #50

Yuuge, it's yuuge! 😅 nt Blue_true May 2017 #34

Not anything that anybody wants to buy, except oil, gas and arms dalton99a May 2017 #9

You would think with their proficiency in hacking they could build software and computers. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #17

They obviously have a very strong tradition in math exboyfil May 2017 #26

Russia is linked with Exxon Mobil. gordianot May 2017 #10

That is why Trump wants to kill green energy. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #12

China doesn't trust Russia haele May 2017 #22

Both seek hegemony and share a long common border exboyfil May 2017 #27

A smart leader or at least a Machivellian one would exploit that tension. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #41

Yup. Adrahil May 2017 #25

Trump and his party workinclasszero May 2017 #36

Well, power is becoming increasingly diffused away from nations Hortensis May 2017 #14

IMHO, the United States will revert back to the status it held circa 1900. roamer65 May 2017 #15

I can see us breaking up into two pieces. A progressive-moderate half Blue_true May 2017 #32

Yeah...we are already out of the TPP and the impact of that is going to hit pretty soon. nikibatts May 2017 #18

The TPP is a sensitive subject here... It was a hedge against China. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #20

Not yet. After all, the Silk Road goes through Turkey and the 'stans Warpy May 2017 #19

Color me a hopeless idealist. I do believe in American exceptionalism. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #21

Would that we had decency and compassion to go along with that! k8conant May 2017 #23

" Would that we had decency and compassion to go along with that! " DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #40

I don't think that covers it now... k8conant May 2017 #45

No. The Deplorables took American exceptionalism outside and beat it with a stick. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #47

You know that beacon that fought fascism in the East and West exboyfil May 2017 #29

An interesting notion...Richelieu--and De Gaulle--would have jumped at the chance... First Speaker May 2017 #24

Remember when DeGaulle said the Force DeFrappe was pointed in our direction and Russia. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #42

China does A LOT of trade with other countries like Australia for one it does make me wonder luvMIdog May 2017 #28

Yes, I do. China is in step with Europeans on the climate. Blue_true May 2017 #30

I don't think it was the right forum or approach exboyfil May 2017 #31

No, the sentiment is not right. The United States cannot be isolationist. WinkyDink May 2017 #38

Why can't they spend 3-4% of their GDP on their own defense? exboyfil May 2017 #39

The only thing Germany and France lack is the will. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #43

Germany's 1.2% is not very well spent Ezior May 2017 #49

Sure. Any country but America. democratisphere May 2017 #33

No. But you have some sub-alliances already...and no doubt, more to follow. Xolodno May 2017 #35

No. WinkyDink May 2017 #37

No Doreen May 2017 #44

IMHO China is more capable of liberalization than Russia DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #48

China's top three trading partners are the US, Japan and South Korea Calista241 May 2017 #46