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In reply to the discussion: Stein, Sarandon, Cornel West and their ilk own this. [View all]LenaBaby61
(6,991 posts)I STILL can't believe that some of you guys don't seem to understand and maybe not believe it, but the 2016 GE was no ordinary election. You said "Our candidate didn't get it done." Hillary had her challenges--no doubt about it, and Comey's bombshell REALLY didn't help 11 days out from November 8th.
Again, 2016's GE was NOT normal.
For starters, there were millions of Dems that were thrown off the voting rolls IE: Voter-crosschecked, voter-purged off of voting rolls in states like MI. WI. PA, AZ. NC--states that tRumputun HAD to win in order to take the White House.
Crosscheck Removed 450K Voters in MI, 270 K in AZ and 590 K in NC!!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/11/14/1599330/-Crosscheck-Removed-450K-Voters-in-MI-270-K-in-AZ-and-590-K-in-NC
Our voting institutions are extremely vulnerable:
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/democracy/reports/2016/11/11/292322/voter-suppression-laws-cost-americans-their-voices-at-the-polls/
Now come 2018, GOP-led Voter-suppression will be on steroids, especially in the state of WI. where Scott Walker will be making sure that "new" voter ID standards/laws will make it even more difficult for people who lean left to vote, and even IF Dems found compelling evidence of GOP voter-suppression and presented it to beauguard, do you really think he'd investigate it in earnest or in a timely fashion/manner to benefit Dems? PLUS on top of all that, you'll again have the ruskies spreading disinformation, fake news, Dem lies/disinformation in key states, again trying to depress Dem turn out, and they'll again also target specific African-Americans & women voters. You best believe they'll do that and more to get keep thuglicans in power. Per Clint Watts--Cyber-security expert amongst other things), the ruskie never stopped meddling in our internal affairs, and under THIS crooked, ruskie-controlled DOJ, they'll do what they need to do to keep their dumb, mentally-declining, fat, lying, treasonous puppet tRumputin in the WH--providing that he lasts to 2020.
Back to what you said originally, "Our candidate didn't get it done." If Bernie had run, he'd have faced the SAME voter-suppression and ruskie interference and MORE, so it wouldn't have mattered WHO the Dems had run, no matter their message--Dems could have dig up FDR: They weren't gonna win with all that extracurricular crap that went along with the 2016 GE. In 2018 and 2020, I don't know if Dems will be able to pick up many if ANY Senate seats, or make a dent in that gerrymandered Congress, or get close to winning the White House--as long as the GOP continues on with "encouraged" voter-suppression, and as long as putin is allowed to keep meddling in our elective process, can continue blackmailing tRumputin and maybe even many in the GOP-controlled congress putin wins. As long as putin can keep this country's people fighting each other, as long as he can spread disinformation, lies, change laws which will disenfranchise Dem voters, keep us off-balance as a country, keep enough Americans voting against it's own best interests, putin wins.
HOW Dems overcome the GOP's voter-suppression efforts on 'roids & how they overcome "encouraged" & continued ruskie interference/disinformation in 2018 & 2020, I haven't a CLUE.