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In reply to the discussion: Stein, Sarandon, Cornel West and their ilk own this. [View all]
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)191. Stop pitting voters against one another... it's a losing strategy.
The economy is voters' #1 concern -- ignore those concerns and we lose. (Have you learned nothing from November?) I'm originally from a Rust Belt state and have seen the decline first-hand, decline that has been building for DECADES. PA/MI/WI voted for Obama twice, so don't bother pushing your fantasy that they're all anti-choice, racist, homophobic, misogynistic assholes. PA has a Democratic governor -- were November 2016 voters also a target of "successful misinformation"?
How are you going to reach 270 in 2020? Someone in this thread mentioned NC and Florida. NC voted for Obama, then Romney, then Trump. It can't be counted on. Florida went for Obama twice, but rejected Hillary. Why?
(Is DU now accepting Bernie's message that economic and social justice issues are intertwined? Fascinating! I mean, TRULY fascinating.)
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Where? I haven't said anything. All I see is you bashing us ... and my "ilk."
Fantastic Anarchist
Jun 2017
#111
I despise Cornell West...as for the left bashing...I would argue that such folks as Cornell West,
Demsrule86
Jun 2017
#268
I think that those who walk lockstep with Stein and West are not going to be Democrats.
ehrnst
Jun 2017
#291
I never said I walked lock-step with Cornell West, and I don't like Jill Stein.
Fantastic Anarchist
Jun 2017
#295
Stein and Sarandon were Trump supporters both now and during the election so it is not
Demsrule86
Jun 2017
#298
From Jill Stein...sorry...I don't know how anyone could defend this person.
Demsrule86
Jun 2017
#330
she supported Trump over Hillary...I sent you the links...she said Trump was a better choice...and
Demsrule86
Jun 2017
#334
I am done arguing with you... I heard her myself in an interview...and she is just
Demsrule86
Jun 2017
#338
Those outsiders encouraged voting for Stein, which tipped the scales in Trump's favor.
6000eliot
Jun 2017
#38
There were literally hundreds of celebrities and media people endorsing HRC
Hassin Bin Sober
Jun 2017
#95
Yeah, there wasn't any misinformation or ulterior political ambitions on the left feeding it.
ehrnst
Jun 2017
#293
Too bad their voices were encouraging people to vote for someone other than Clinton.
George II
Jun 2017
#124
Here's just one thing that Sarandon said in June last year, there are others:
George II
Jun 2017
#169
It was last year, but the sentiment hasn't changed at all based on recent statements (I didn't....
George II
Jun 2017
#287
Republicans are citizens too and have a voice people listen to...they are outsiders
Demsrule86
Jun 2017
#273
Ah, so you DO admit that Stein, Sarandon, and Cornell West are "outsiders". Thanks.
George II
Jun 2017
#122
Ignoring the lessons of Nader and congressional investigations are also mistakes. (nt)
ehrnst
Jun 2017
#279
I'm talking ignoring facts that are currently the subject of several investigations.
ehrnst
Jun 2017
#159
Why do you trash Democrats on DU, and not those who tried to trash Hillary? (nt)
ehrnst
Jun 2017
#275
This is literally a right wing talking point, denying it's origin and ignoring reality
Ninsianna
Jun 2017
#247
She sent Bernie which wasn't such a bad idea considering he won the primary in WI. Obviously that
seaglass
Jun 2017
#336
Bernie's an MLK guy, hence the Ebenezer Baptist Church inviting him to speak...
SMC22307
Jun 2017
#225
In the darkness of night, the cry of a sleepless bird, a rumble of distant thunder.
betsuni
Jun 2017
#239
It's like taking one Anthony Bourdain quote about how he likes Indian vegetarian food
betsuni
Jun 2017
#245
So did Hillary's. And yet she's accused of not really addressing economics - in all it's forms.
ehrnst
Jun 2017
#271
I think that you missed Hillary's economic message, as well as many of Bernie's statements
ehrnst
Jun 2017
#257
Is that quote supposed to be from Bernie? Because I got nothing when I googled it.
scipan
Jun 2017
#325
The reason that many voters didn't pay attention to Hillary's very progressive economic proposals
ehrnst
Jun 2017
#364
There is no winning if you expect the Greens or the Alt-left bad term as these
Demsrule86
Jun 2017
#300
It seems that anyone who doesn't walk lockstep with the fringe left is considered "neoliberal"
ehrnst
Jun 2017
#141
Yup, and they have a very distilled version of reality. It has to fit only one Senator's version.
R B Garr
Jun 2017
#166
Yes, and they conveniently ignore that fact about the small or small population, rural
R B Garr
Jun 2017
#342
Yes, ignoring the warning signs of demonizing our candidate in the midwest was
R B Garr
Jun 2017
#163
Yeap, every time I see one of the "we shouldah" comments its always to ignore Comey etc
YCHDT
Jun 2017
#41
Sarandon owns as do those who voted for a gorilla, stayed home or for that asshat Siberian
Demsrule86
Jun 2017
#77
what's really fucked is we let 88 'liberal' universities support 257 limbaugh/trump stations
certainot
Jun 2017
#135
Jill Stein had a whole lot to gain by trying to undermine Democrats and their platform.
ehrnst
Jun 2017
#167
People in Ohio and Pennsylvania absolutely worship Cornel West and Susan Sarandon.....
vi5
Jun 2017
#333
So it is a Democratic bashing thing...criticize the Democratic party as happened
Demsrule86
Jun 2017
#352
Stein's votes could have put us over the top in MI and WI, but not in PA
BeyondGeography
Jun 2017
#72
My bad...but if you think that rates with Nader's 95k votes in FL in 2000, knock yourself out
BeyondGeography
Jun 2017
#89
Who said anything about Johnson not running? Oh that's right, more deflection n/t
SFnomad
Jun 2017
#357
Like I said, more deflection from you. Maybe you should go look up the original post that started
SFnomad
Jun 2017
#359
Exactly. They can bash all of these fantasy boogymen to their peril.
Fantastic Anarchist
Jun 2017
#285
Ralph Nader's failure is a cautionary tale (warning sign) that we need to learn from right now.
ehrnst
Jun 2017
#267
Keep attacking the party and see where that gets you...perhaps a second term for Trump?
Demsrule86
Jun 2017
#332
Saying that the Democratic Party needs improvement is attacking the party?
Fantastic Anarchist
Jun 2017
#335
Nice to see one being so cavalier about this on the day that Trump put the death penalty on polar
kerry-is-my-prez
Jun 2017
#189
I don't consider anyone who didn't vote for the only person who could stop Trump
Demsrule86
Jun 2017
#345
Jill Stein's a Russian puppet too. Hopefully she sees the inside of a prison cell.
GBizzle
Jun 2017
#4
Sarandon would say that this will make people aware of climate change and thats a good thing!
The_Casual_Observer
Jun 2017
#5
And she would be wrong...the damage to the environment by Cheetoh and his minions
Demsrule86
Jun 2017
#53
All three of them have influence, much more than you or I or most other Americans.
DanTex
Jun 2017
#28
We don't know if they swung the election, but we do know they did everything in their power to.
DanTex
Jun 2017
#46
Sadly, I expect the far left to keep helping Republicans get elected like they have since 2000.
DanTex
Jun 2017
#156
So the candidate with the billion dollar warchest was bested by grumpy outspoken leftists
killbotfactory
Jun 2017
#210
They certainly contributed to Trump's victory. But, true, there were other factors (Russia, Comey).
DanTex
Jun 2017
#215
Do you expect Democrats to applaud when a candidate dismisses Planned Parenthood
ehrnst
Jun 2017
#266
This is the truth - they normalized Trump with their false equivalency bullshit all day long....
bettyellen
Jun 2017
#57
... we agree, in that game no one cheated in this game someone did blaming her loss on someone elses
YCHDT
Jun 2017
#88
Third party votes sung this election...just look at the numbers in PA, MI, & WI.
Cattledog
Jun 2017
#55
Stein's a Russian agent, Sarandon is a naive fool, and Cornel West is a fanatic
alcibiades_mystery
Jun 2017
#74
excuses for the Green types...Jillie made a point to campaign in those areas. And
Demsrule86
Jun 2017
#79
The greens got minuscule votes in Michigan, Libertarians got a measurable number. NT
tiredtoo
Jun 2017
#86
Those arrogant assholes did everything they could to undermine Hillary and the
still_one
Jun 2017
#97
And I'll never forget the stupid assed members of the CA delegation shouting "Lock her up!" at
deurbano
Jun 2017
#102
It's all about their Obama/Hillary hate. People like them can live with anything.
nikibatts
Jun 2017
#129
glad i read this thread. think it will be juried at least once. leaves me out!
samnsara
Jun 2017
#151
And they have not retracted their bullshit yet and are emboldening unenlightened young
Eliot Rosewater
Jun 2017
#153
THEY knew better and what could happen after Gore vs. Bush. The fact that there are many who
kerry-is-my-prez
Jun 2017
#178