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Fantastic Anarchist

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294. You're welcome to your opinion on where I should post.

Fri Jun 2, 2017, 08:06 AM

Jun 2017

I don't agree and will continue to post here.

Thank you for your concern, though.

I will consider any further responses by you in this vain as trolling. And no, I won't alert (that's against my principles to do so). You do realize people can read the exchange, correct? If you think you're "winning" ... well, all I can say is that it's not about "winning" an internet argument with some stranger. This is how to include all progressives, and devise a strategy to win back control of the political apparatus. This includes perception and reality. If you want to bash fellow progressives for having the wrong opinion, or for having a bad attitude, then I suggest that you look seriously into the mirror. Or just continue to do what you're doing ...

You're either part of the problem or part of the solution - not both.

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Stein, Sarandon, Cornel West and their ilk own this. [View all] Chevy Jun 2017 OP

It's all their fault! BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #1

There are others to blame as well Chevy Jun 2017 #9

We should have been able to get to 270 EV's on Donald Trump BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #18

Under normal circumstances yes Chevy Jun 2017 #19

It was winnable BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #26

And yet they're all still talking and undermining Chevy Jun 2017 #29

Where? I haven't said anything. All I see is you bashing us ... and my "ilk." Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2017 #111

Um... who bashed you? This is your first post here. ehrnst Jun 2017 #146

I like Cornell West. I am of the Left. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2017 #185

Bashing lefty progressives as "corporatists" is lame and old ehrnst Jun 2017 #255

Please show me where I bashed progressives as corporatists. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2017 #284

You said, "I am of his ilk" ehrnst Jun 2017 #288

You're welcome to your opinion on where I should post. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2017 #294

I despise Cornell West...as for the left bashing...I would argue that such folks as Cornell West, Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #268

I disagree. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2017 #286

I think that those who walk lockstep with Stein and West are not going to be Democrats. ehrnst Jun 2017 #291

I never said I walked lock-step with Cornell West, and I don't like Jill Stein. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2017 #295

You must have found a sale on straw men! ehrnst Jun 2017 #296

Stein and Sarandon were Trump supporters both now and during the election so it is not Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #298

snopes: "Green Party candidate Jill Stein has not endorsed Donald Trump, scipan Jun 2017 #321

From Jill Stein...sorry...I don't know how anyone could defend this person. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #330

You said Stein supported Trump and I simply corrected you. scipan Jun 2017 #331

she supported Trump over Hillary...I sent you the links...she said Trump was a better choice...and Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #334

all that was addressed in the snopes article. scipan Jun 2017 #337

I am done arguing with you... I heard her myself in an interview...and she is just Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #338

I was referring to Cornel West and Sarandon Chevy Jun 2017 #305

Those outsiders encouraged voting for Stein, which tipped the scales in Trump's favor. 6000eliot Jun 2017 #38

They aren't outsiders. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #67

They weren't part of our losing campaign BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #70

They were absolutely a part of it. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #71

There were literally hundreds of celebrities and media people endorsing HRC Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2017 #95

I'm glad you have someone to blame. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #99

He has to have someone. Jakes Progress Jun 2017 #221

A new Dreyfuss Affair! Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2017 #115

Why don't you 'splain us about that? (nt) ehrnst Jun 2017 #125

"'Splain' what exactly? Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2017 #188

A New Dreyfuss Affair! You know, what you wrote. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2017 #196

Um, there's nothing to explain. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2017 #200

Yeah, there wasn't any misinformation or ulterior political ambitions on the left feeding it. ehrnst Jun 2017 #293

It. Was. A. Joke. scipan Jun 2017 #322

Ignoring the facts is shooting ourselves in the foot ehrnst Jun 2017 #123

Ignoring that they trashed Hillary publicly is a cop-out. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2017 #274

Too bad their voices were encouraging people to vote for someone other than Clinton. George II Jun 2017 #124

I don't know whey people are so desperate to deflect from that aspect. Nt NCTraveler Jun 2017 #138

I can think of a few reasons. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2017 #139

Here's just one thing that Sarandon said in June last year, there are others: George II Jun 2017 #169

HMOG! sheshe2 Jun 2017 #234

It was last year, but the sentiment hasn't changed at all based on recent statements (I didn't.... George II Jun 2017 #287

Republicans are citizens too and have a voice people listen to...they are outsiders Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #273

This! (nt) ehrnst Jun 2017 #283

Thanks! I will never understand how those who think it just fine to Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #299

(nt) ehrnst Jun 2017 #282

Right. She did win. Remember? It was stolen. ehrnst Jun 2017 #117

Ah, so you DO admit that Stein, Sarandon, and Cornell West are "outsiders". Thanks. George II Jun 2017 #122

Let's count the obstacles that were there, that she still overcame ehrnst Jun 2017 #145

"Our candidate didn't get it done." SMC22307 Jun 2017 #30

Please proceed. n/t Chevy Jun 2017 #34

Ignoring Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania proved fatal. SMC22307 Jun 2017 #64

Ignoring voter suppression and voter hacking ehrnst Jun 2017 #121

I don't dispute voter suppression. SMC22307 Jun 2017 #144

I'm not so sure we lost Michigan and Wisconsin ehrnst Jun 2017 #149

I was unaware of Kushner's 'Alamo Project" . Thanks for post. riversedge Jun 2017 #251

Ignoring the lessons of Nader and congressional investigations are also mistakes. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2017 #279

But Robby had the numbers!!! He had the numbers!!! n/t QC Jun 2017 #126

Data schmata! (n/t) SMC22307 Jun 2017 #148

Yeah, facts are overrated, aren't they? ehrnst Jun 2017 #154

We're talking ignoring the warning signs. SMC22307 Jun 2017 #157

I'm talking ignoring facts that are currently the subject of several investigations. ehrnst Jun 2017 #159

Three per cent, but not in the right combination of states. SMC22307 Jun 2017 #162

Florida and North Carolina Motownman78 Jun 2017 #170

Currently, PA/MI/WI 46 and NC/FL 44. Still not enough. SMC22307 Jun 2017 #179

Why do you trash Democrats on DU, and not those who tried to trash Hillary? (nt) ehrnst Jun 2017 #275

oh, the irony. scipan Jun 2017 #323

Yes, and voter suppression directed to key states delivered the WH to DT. ehrnst Jun 2017 #173

+1000, totally nailed it. "They don't support the political aspirations R B Garr Jun 2017 #183

And those "you people are being red-baited!" on the left seem to have ehrnst Jun 2017 #197

Yeah, about Michigan.... ehrnst Jun 2017 #128

This is literally a right wing talking point, denying it's origin and ignoring reality Ninsianna Jun 2017 #247

+1 betsuni Jun 2017 #248

+1000 (nt) ehrnst Jun 2017 #259

There was no ignoring. betsuni Jun 2017 #249

She did not visit Wisconsin once since the primary. scipan Jun 2017 #324

She sent Bernie which wasn't such a bad idea considering he won the primary in WI. Obviously that seaglass Jun 2017 #336

Actually, she got more votes than any candidate but Obama. ehrnst Jun 2017 #118

Is she sitting in the White House? SMC22307 Jun 2017 #130

The White House was stolen, with the help of Russia, Comey and ehrnst Jun 2017 #134

I divided the "white, college educated left"? SMC22307 Jun 2017 #174

Please don't be disingenuous. ehrnst Jun 2017 #176

+1 betsuni Jun 2017 #180

Thank you, ehrnst. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #184

All in a day's work... ehrnst Jun 2017 #198

Ha,,,got it in one! sheshe2 Jun 2017 #204

Stop pitting voters against one another... it's a losing strategy. SMC22307 Jun 2017 #191

You can repeat it all you like... ehrnst Jun 2017 #195

"I'm not the one who has to reach 270 in 2020." SMC22307 Jun 2017 #205

As helpful as your post. See what I did there? (nt) ehrnst Jun 2017 #256

Pretty sure it was DU that DEMANDED sheshe2 Jun 2017 #203

Wrong. Don't try to re-write history -- I was here. SMC22307 Jun 2017 #206

Wrong. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #208

1) I'm not your trained monkey and 2) his campaign website addressed... SMC22307 Jun 2017 #211

Hmmm sheshe2 Jun 2017 #214

I've got his website. In black and white... SMC22307 Jun 2017 #217

So what you are saying... sheshe2 Jun 2017 #219

Bernie's an MLK guy, hence the Ebenezer Baptist Church inviting him to speak... SMC22307 Jun 2017 #225

Ignore the question all you want. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #228

In the darkness of night, the cry of a sleepless bird, a rumble of distant thunder. betsuni Jun 2017 #239

The economic justice quotes validate their story. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #241

It's like taking one Anthony Bourdain quote about how he likes Indian vegetarian food betsuni Jun 2017 #245

Bourdain! I love him. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #246

Totally explains why he got their OVERWHELMING support last year. ehrnst Jun 2017 #270

So did Hillary's. And yet she's accused of not really addressing economics - in all it's forms. ehrnst Jun 2017 #271

I think that you missed Hillary's economic message, as well as many of Bernie's statements ehrnst Jun 2017 #257

Is that quote supposed to be from Bernie? Because I got nothing when I googled it. scipan Jun 2017 #325

Here are a couple of quotes ehrnst Jun 2017 #340

No. No it is not. Jakes Progress Jun 2017 #222

Yes. It. Is. SMC22307 Jun 2017 #226

Nope. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #232

economy the top issue according to Pew. scipan Jun 2017 #326

Interesting. Thanks (nt) PotatoChip Jun 2017 #350

The reason that many voters didn't pay attention to Hillary's very progressive economic proposals ehrnst Jun 2017 #364

+1 betsuni Jun 2017 #365

Hillary addressed all that. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2017 #258

Just because money is all you care about Jakes Progress Jun 2017 #310

+1000 sheshe2 Jun 2017 #231

+1000 (nt) ehrnst Jun 2017 #254

There is no winning if you expect the Greens or the Alt-left bad term as these Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #300

+1000 nicely put! Chevy Jun 2017 #362

Demonizing Democrats in the middle won't get it done, either. Never again R B Garr Jun 2017 #136

It seems that anyone who doesn't walk lockstep with the fringe left is considered "neoliberal" ehrnst Jun 2017 #141

Absolutely! They are just another version of fake news when you look at R B Garr Jun 2017 #150

Yeah, I noticed that... ehrnst Jun 2017 #161

Yup, and they have a very distilled version of reality. It has to fit only one Senator's version. R B Garr Jun 2017 #166

A senator with a small, rural, very white demographic. He speaks for them. ehrnst Jun 2017 #260

Yes, and they conveniently ignore that fact about the small or small population, rural R B Garr Jun 2017 #342

And brags about never having voted during the civil rights era. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2017 #348

Who is demonizing Democrats in the middle? SMC22307 Jun 2017 #160

Yes, ignoring the warning signs of demonizing our candidate in the midwest was R B Garr Jun 2017 #163

+1000. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2017 #165

Um... read the OP. ehrnst Jun 2017 #164

Shit... sheshe2 Jun 2017 #235

{secret handshake} (nt) ehrnst Jun 2017 #253

sigh ... another ignore Comey, voter suppression and Russia post ... whatever YCHDT Jun 2017 #32

Amazing isn't it? n/t Chevy Jun 2017 #37

Yeap, every time I see one of the "we shouldah" comments its always to ignore Comey etc YCHDT Jun 2017 #41

Or nutty Nina"No one is talking about Russia" n/t Chevy Jun 2017 #44

Our candidate was attacked both from the right and the left and demonized . Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #50

Post removed Post removed Jun 2017 #52

Interesting talking points very familiar. n/t Chevy Jun 2017 #54

Yes, and screaming STEIN et al is original BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #56

Du is a place to vent as well as discuss Chevy Jun 2017 #59

They're assholes, but unless you have a plan to eliminate assholes BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #65

Does it matter? Nothing will be good enough for the purists. Chevy Jun 2017 #66

That's not necessarily the audience BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #68

Yeah - if they were so angry at Hillary to vote for Stein ehrnst Jun 2017 #264

Better? Not really possible in the current field. More appropriate? ehrnst Jun 2017 #199

OMG. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #242

"They"? Are you a Democrat? George II Jun 2017 #202

Interesting question, George. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #243

There was nothing wrong with Hillary other than 30 years of RW bashing. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #236

You're leading the way... (nt) ehrnst Jun 2017 #276

Sarandon owns as do those who voted for a gorilla, stayed home or for that asshat Siberian Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #77

All of those states were very close treestar Jun 2017 #107

Exactly, and those purists MiddleClass Jun 2017 #315

Such a stupid debate. Loki Liesmith Jun 2017 #105

what's really fucked is we let 88 'liberal' universities support 257 limbaugh/trump stations certainot Jun 2017 #135

And what would you propose differently? Anything? George II Jun 2017 #133

just complain.... sheshe2 Jun 2017 #237

What about Jill Stein. You suffer from blame damage onit2day Jun 2017 #140

Jill Stein had a whole lot to gain by trying to undermine Democrats and their platform. ehrnst Jun 2017 #167

+ 1 musette_sf Jun 2017 #194

"Our candidate didn't get it done." LenaBaby61 Jun 2017 #172

I've learned to just save my breath. vi5 Jun 2017 #304

People in Ohio and Pennsylvania absolutely worship Cornel West and Susan Sarandon..... vi5 Jun 2017 #333

I live in Ohio...West and Sarandon are not worshiped I assume you Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #346

I am being very sarcastic. vi5 Jun 2017 #351

So it is a Democratic bashing thing...criticize the Democratic party as happened Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #352

Again, avoiding the issue..... vi5 Jun 2017 #356

So tired of this garbage. moda253 Jun 2017 #308

and the 1000 Democratic seats lost since 2010 "should" have been won, delisen Jun 2017 #328

She was carrying years of bad propaganda baggage onit2day Jun 2017 #142

... about Hillary, in her purse... ready to whip out. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2017 #168

No, its not ... they helped Cheeto ... and that's still a very bad thing YCHDT Jun 2017 #31

The votes Jill Stein got could have flipped the election, pnwmom Jun 2017 #69

Stein's votes could have put us over the top in MI and WI, but not in PA BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #72

Re: Stein's votes ... but not it PA SFnomad Jun 2017 #85

My bad...but if you think that rates with Nader's 95k votes in FL in 2000, knock yourself out BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #89

Quit making more excuses SFnomad Jun 2017 #91

Oh, that's rich BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #100

At least they're not clapping for 'trickle down social justice" ehrnst Jun 2017 #280

No one said a word about Nader. This is on Jill Stein. nt pnwmom Jun 2017 #93

Well that's a new one. I heard she "ignored" PA... ehrnst Jun 2017 #277

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Jun 2017 #278

Thank you, SFnomad, for providing the #'s. n/t pnwmom Jun 2017 #94

Thank you! sheshe2 Jun 2017 #238

OMG! Data to support your claim! (nt) ehrnst Jun 2017 #261

You forgot to put Gary Johnson in the mix. He had 146,715 votes in Pa. PotatoChip Jun 2017 #353

Who said anything about Johnson not running? Oh that's right, more deflection n/t SFnomad Jun 2017 #357

I'd like to know too. It certainly didn't come from me. PotatoChip Jun 2017 #358

Like I said, more deflection from you. Maybe you should go look up the original post that started SFnomad Jun 2017 #359

Why are you bashing Hillary all over this thread? sheshe2 Jun 2017 #187

Where is the wrath toward Libertarian Gary Johnson? SMC22307 Jun 2017 #209

Yup. n/t progressoid Jun 2017 #220

He's a rightist and thus less likely to be criticized here. QC Jun 2017 #223

Eh, Johnson votes were likely never going to Hillary. HughBeaumont Jun 2017 #297

What is it about Hillary that irritates you most? (nt) ehrnst Jun 2017 #263

This Left-bashing is lame and old. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2017 #110

Speak for yourself. Crushing all dissent from a particular manifesto ehrnst Jun 2017 #131

We're not talking about Ralph Nader ... Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2017 #186

There's ZERO discussion of how the party can improve. SMC22307 Jun 2017 #213

Um... Moving farther into social justice issues. ehrnst Jun 2017 #269

we need to be stronger on the economy. scipan Jun 2017 #329

Why should that be different? ehrnst Jun 2017 #339

So, tell me. How do Democrats "get stronger" on the economy? ehrnst Jun 2017 #341

You mean like this? ehrnst Jun 2017 #349

Exactly. They can bash all of these fantasy boogymen to their peril. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2017 #285

It seems to me that the 'improvements' you seek would doom us to Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #301

Ralph Nader's failure is a cautionary tale (warning sign) that we need to learn from right now. ehrnst Jun 2017 #267

I'm an ally, as I've said in my other responses to you. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2017 #289

If people vote for the Democrat, we win...if they don't we can't. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #302

The Democratic Party could definitely use improvement. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2017 #317

Keep attacking the party and see where that gets you...perhaps a second term for Trump? Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #332

Saying that the Democratic Party needs improvement is attacking the party? Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2017 #335

Come aboard what? There is no intention Chevy Jun 2017 #306

3rd party Liars are getting called out. Cha Jun 2017 #132

Nice to see one being so cavalier about this on the day that Trump put the death penalty on polar kerry-is-my-prez Jun 2017 #189

Right, blame other lefties Kimchijeon Jun 2017 #224

I don't consider anyone who didn't vote for the only person who could stop Trump Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #345

They are a part of it yes SHRED Jun 2017 #2

My thoughts as well. nt arthritisR_US Jun 2017 #62

Absolutely. The OP is making an angry, simplistic statement adigal Jun 2017 #137

silly H2O Man Jun 2017 #3

??? Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #6

Very profound. n/t Chevy Jun 2017 #15

yep cyberswede Jun 2017 #312

Extremely silly. nt Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2017 #319

Jill Stein's a Russian puppet too. Hopefully she sees the inside of a prison cell. GBizzle Jun 2017 #4

Sarandon would say that this will make people aware of climate change and thats a good thing! The_Casual_Observer Jun 2017 #5

Yes Vive La Revolution. n/t Chevy Jun 2017 #11

And she would be wrong...the damage to the environment by Cheetoh and his minions Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #53

Turd polishing, but yes. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2017 #265

Agreed Gothmog Jun 2017 #7

No they don't. The cheating Cons and the Russians own it. SalviaBlue Jun 2017 #8

Whatever helps you sleep at night. n/t Chevy Jun 2017 #10

Jill Stein definitely falls into the "Russians" category. GBizzle Jun 2017 #12

SB, you are 1,000 correct jodymarie aimee Jun 2017 #16

Whiners huh? Chevy Jun 2017 #17

Because Democrats did not turnout in 2010. wildeyed Jun 2017 #33

Correct. n/t Chevy Jun 2017 #39

I don't think any lessons have been learned among some about 2010. JHan Jun 2017 #73

I know people who voted for Nader who are sincerely, deeply sorry. wildeyed Jun 2017 #103

I know I'm just in really bitter mood today. JHan Jun 2017 #116

Me too. wildeyed Jun 2017 #119

Obama attributed the loss to young people and minorities not turning out. SMC22307 Jun 2017 #227

How does your statement in anyway conflict with mine? wildeyed Jun 2017 #281

You're in denial.. the LIES they told that Hillary Cha Jun 2017 #51

What do you think about DU pundits who dragged ... Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2017 #106

You poor thing.. you have to move on.. President Obama, Cha Jun 2017 #109

LOL! SMC22307 Jun 2017 #229

If I am in denial, so are you since you just agreed with me. SalviaBlue Jun 2017 #311

You're denying stein and sarandon own a Cha Jun 2017 #313

No I am not denying that. The post said they "own this." SalviaBlue Jun 2017 #316

You have a friend in me. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2017 #318

Thanks SalviaBlue Jun 2017 #327

Rec Stinky The Clown Jun 2017 #13

Not only 100% own it, they saw it coming. oasis Jun 2017 #14

Yeah, they said they would never support Hillary. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #23

Twitters wilted roses. n/t Chevy Jun 2017 #27

Yep. It's the people with the least power and influence. killbotfactory Jun 2017 #20

lol lol lol n/t Chevy Jun 2017 #24

All three of them have influence, much more than you or I or most other Americans. DanTex Jun 2017 #28

I disagree with them, but they didn't swing the election. killbotfactory Jun 2017 #40

We don't know if they swung the election, but we do know they did everything in their power to. DanTex Jun 2017 #46

Do you expect the left to applaud democrats when they move right? killbotfactory Jun 2017 #147

Sadly, I expect the far left to keep helping Republicans get elected like they have since 2000. DanTex Jun 2017 #156

So the candidate with the billion dollar warchest was bested by grumpy outspoken leftists killbotfactory Jun 2017 #210

They certainly contributed to Trump's victory. But, true, there were other factors (Russia, Comey). DanTex Jun 2017 #215

Do you expect Democrats to applaud when a candidate dismisses Planned Parenthood ehrnst Jun 2017 #266

Actually Sen. Sander has endorsed two right to life candidates ...one in Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #303

Just like Nader they are getting what they deserve. n/t Chevy Jun 2017 #47

+1000. Paladin Jun 2017 #21

Correct. Expecting Rain Jun 2017 #22

Yes we left that one off Chevy Jun 2017 #25

The inevitable Cha Jun 2017 #45

May they carry it with them to their graves. NT Bleacher Creature Jun 2017 #35

They participated in the constant Hillary/Democrat bashing ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #36

Short memories. n/t Chevy Jun 2017 #43

This is the truth - they normalized Trump with their false equivalency bullshit all day long.... bettyellen Jun 2017 #57

They sure as hell do own a chunk o trump and therefore a CHUNK of the END Cha Jun 2017 #42

The Falcons should have run the ball in the second half. n/t DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #48

Pretty much n/t Chevy Jun 2017 #49

The Falcons didn't have their playbook hacked either YCHDT Jun 2017 #58

The game is still over. And they still lost. n/t DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #63

... we agree, in that game no one cheated in this game someone did blaming her loss on someone elses YCHDT Jun 2017 #88

Third party votes sung this election...just look at the numbers in PA, MI, & WI. Cattledog Jun 2017 #55

Wait until they cut Medicaid. Thrill Jun 2017 #60

They definitely own a big stake in this, jmo. nt arthritisR_US Jun 2017 #61

Stein's a Russian agent, Sarandon is a naive fool, and Cornel West is a fanatic alcibiades_mystery Jun 2017 #74

sarandon's not naive.. she's a FUBAR FOOL Cha Jun 2017 #114

Stein was the Green candidate BadgerMom Jun 2017 #75

Bullshit. Not campaigning in Mi, WI and PA did her in... WoonTars Jun 2017 #76

Yep SHRED Jun 2017 #78

excuses for the Green types...Jillie made a point to campaign in those areas. And Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #79

The greens got minuscule votes in Michigan, Libertarians got a measurable number. NT tiredtoo Jun 2017 #86

they got enough to overturn the election results...fuck that witch. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #152

The Libertarians got 3 times as much as the greens. Bernie won the primary tiredtoo Jun 2017 #155

yep tiredtoo Jun 2017 #83

Kris Kobach did more damage then all of them combined. nt Snotcicles Jun 2017 #120

Can you post a link to the DNC saying "she crapped all over them recently?" ehrnst Jun 2017 #171

+1,000,000 Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2017 #182

Ahh the familiar talking points n/t Chevy Jun 2017 #307

Jeffrey Sachs, too. Tanuki Jun 2017 #80

So does Oliver Stone bhusar Jun 2017 #81

Divide and conquer tiredtoo Jun 2017 #82

What did Jerry Garcia say? Kleveland Jun 2017 #84

All three are unrepentant that Trump won Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2017 #87

That is because they lost nothing. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #190

Keep pointing to others... keep losing elections. That Guy 888 Jun 2017 #90

Fuck all of them MFM008 Jun 2017 #92

Time to move on, folks. Eyeball_Kid Jun 2017 #96

Interesting. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #192

This! (nt) ehrnst Jun 2017 #272

Those arrogant assholes did everything they could to undermine Hillary and the still_one Jun 2017 #97

I dunno I find blaming people on the far left to be pointless... Brogrizzly Jun 2017 #98

K&R mcar Jun 2017 #101

And I'll never forget the stupid assed members of the CA delegation shouting "Lock her up!" at deurbano Jun 2017 #102

So let me understand. Gore1FL Jun 2017 #104

I agree with you... tonedevil Jun 2017 #290

How those three can live with themselves I have no idea! hrmjustin Jun 2017 #108

It's all about their Obama/Hillary hate. People like them can live with anything. nikibatts Jun 2017 #129

Hillary Clinton will kung fu them all shenmue Jun 2017 #112

feel better, now? Warren DeMontague Jun 2017 #113

West on Bill Maher came across as badly as twump. SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2017 #127

I agree! workinclasszero Jun 2017 #143

glad i read this thread. think it will be juried at least once. leaves me out! samnsara Jun 2017 #151

And they have not retracted their bullshit yet and are emboldening unenlightened young Eliot Rosewater Jun 2017 #153

They have doubled down. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #244

Stein was working with the Ruskies... apcalc Jun 2017 #158

They seek to sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids. n/t QC Jun 2017 #175

Say how is that FBI investigation coming? Chevy Jun 2017 #309

They'll probably wrap it up long before you let go of the primary. QC Jun 2017 #320

Oh your mistaken Chevy Jun 2017 #343

You spend virtually all of your time here attacking Democrats. QC Jun 2017 #344

I attack Democrats. lol lol lol Chevy Jun 2017 #347

K&R betsuni Jun 2017 #177

THEY knew better and what could happen after Gore vs. Bush. The fact that there are many who kerry-is-my-prez Jun 2017 #178

Comey owns it. nt Kahuna7 Jun 2017 #181

So, these three people and "their ilk"... Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #193

LOL! NurseJackie Jun 2017 #292

K & R LAS14 Jun 2017 #201

Activists are inept handicappers Awsi Dooger Jun 2017 #207

The GOP owns it UCmeNdc Jun 2017 #212

I don't see much changing but things could be worse I suppose. ucrdem Jun 2017 #216

It just doesn't end ornotna Jun 2017 #218

They have much in common with Steve Bannon Zambero Jun 2017 #230

Stein, Sarandon, and West represent approximately 0.1% of the population Azathoth Jun 2017 #233

How do you figure? Can you show where that figure comes from? NurseJackie Jun 2017 #262

+ 1 googol! Foamfollower Jun 2017 #240

But they keep doubling and tripling down. Maher tried to get CW to see ecstatic Jun 2017 #250

yep, those people are teaching the world a lesson aren;t they? beachbum bob Jun 2017 #252

100 million Trump and non-voters own this. Orsino Jun 2017 #314

not a bot been here since 2002 clu Jun 2017 #354

Boink Scurrilous Jun 2017 #355

I lulz'd KG Jun 2017 #360

Add the Intercept and TYT too, for starters Blue_Tires Jun 2017 #361

Yes and they have been defended here Chevy Jun 2017 #363