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29. As one of those "lot of people"

Mon Dec 12, 2011, 06:19 PM

Dec 2011

I just say, first, that it's not clear from the poll how "liberal Democrats" are selected. Like, would Rahm Emanuel qualify as a "liberal Democrat" in this poll, and would you consider Rahm Emanuel to be a "liberal Democrat"? Second, what does "approve" mean? Is it in relation to a hypothetical Republican president? Or does it mean that the person has, in general, more positive feelings about President Obama than negative ones, and therefore "approves" of the job he's doing? Are there specific programs, policies or palaver that are polled, or is it just a general statement unrelated to particulars?

The "news" doesn't piss me off as much as the root meaningless of this bit of information, stuffed with whatever meaning some people choose to put in there. My strong suspicion is that it is used as a cudgel to marginalize legitimate concerns or to squelch discussion of issues important to all citizens: "Well, President Obama has an 84% approval rating among liberal Democrats, so your carping on Issue X is just proof of how out of touch you are, you dirty fucking hippie."

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President Obama's Gallup approval rating amongst liberal Democrats for December 5th-11th is 84%. [View all] LoZoccolo Dec 2011 OP

Whatever that means gratuitous Dec 2011 #1

It does mean something. phleshdef Dec 2011 #2

It means liberal Democrats have seen the Republican field. n/t Scuba Dec 2011 #3

At what date in the past had they not yet seen the Republican field? LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #6

They've seen them all along, ergo the continuing support for the President. n/t Scuba Dec 2011 #7

OK. But if the "centrists" are to be believed, "liberal Democrats" represent a small fringe element Romulox Dec 2011 #4

The thread starter has a specific reason for doing this. Rex Dec 2011 #5

These posts are meant to refute claims that Obama's liberal supporters are leaving him. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #10

What percentage of his supporters would you describe as "liberal Democrats", though? >1%? >5%? nt Romulox Dec 2011 #12

His overall Democratic approval rating is 77%, so I would imagine it's a sizable number. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #13

That doesn't even attempt to answer the question. nt Romulox Dec 2011 #16

His conservative and moderate Democratic approval ratings are less than 77%. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #25

Thanks. Rex Dec 2011 #26

Over and over and over and over. Where have I seen this technique rhett o rick Dec 2011 #37

They told me I'm the only one left. n/t Scuba Dec 2011 #9

I doubt you are the only one, but you're probably not crowded. russspeakeasy Dec 2011 #15

Actually, there's millions of us out here, but the right wants to pretend we don't exist. n/t Scuba Dec 2011 #20

No. A certain number identify as liberal DEMOCRATS. Dawgs Dec 2011 #23

Good because without even considering politics whenever I look at Newt Gingrich I want to throw up. TBF Dec 2011 #8

Again, without a link. pintobean Dec 2011 #11

It's Gallup per the OP. CakeGrrl Dec 2011 #18

I know that pintobean Dec 2011 #22

Well, This Liberal Dem RobinA Dec 2011 #14

I'm voting for him zipplewrath Dec 2011 #24

Then you better vote twice. Or three times. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2011 #44

Boy, does this kind of news piss off a lot of people or what? n/t Sheepshank Dec 2011 #17

It does if one is convinced that he's CakeGrrl Dec 2011 #19

No, you're just regurgitating those memes because you... ClassWarrior Dec 2011 #21

What has you more concerned, CakeGrrl Dec 2011 #30

Both are just as damaging to the President. ClassWarrior Dec 2011 #40

It certainly does. great white snark Dec 2011 #27

As one of those "lot of people" gratuitous Dec 2011 #29

It is super simply: They self-identify as liberal Democrats to the pollster emulatorloo Dec 2011 #42

I think you have touched upon the crux of the matter Art_from_Ark Dec 2011 #43

Yep. And it's absolutely delicious Number23 Dec 2011 #35

Yep, another week and another report of that same 80+ percent. Is this posted automatically? ThomWV Dec 2011 #28

Yeah it's not a discussion - just a report of a poll slay Dec 2011 #33

Bingo. nm rhett o rick Dec 2011 #38

He will be overwhelming elected president of the Liberal Democratic United States of America Bucky Dec 2011 #31

I'm surprised that large a percentage of Dems don't understand the meaning of the word liberal slay Dec 2011 #32

I don't think it has EVER gone below 80% which is freaking phenomenal Number23 Dec 2011 #34

Just as they were getting over the poll in the OP.....you go and rub it in. Sheepshank Dec 2011 #36

Diebold AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2011 #39

"...rating amongst liberal Democrats for December 5th-11th is 84%." unkachuck Dec 2011 #41