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In reply to the discussion: I know, I know Occupy is dead... right [View all]Summer Hathaway
(2,770 posts)between the goals that people are more than willing to support, and the way in which OWS is purporting to achieve those goals.
There IS a difference between the two.
"What exactly do you think the people ought to be doing to end the corrupt influences of money in our politics?" I would say unequivocally that camping out in public parks is not going to influence one Goddamned thing.
That is not the question - or shouldn't be. To say "what are you doing" is irrelevant. To say "this is what WE'RE doing" should stand on its own. But apparently it doesn't.
I have read over and over - especially on this board - that Occupy is NOT a political movement, and that no one wants either political party to be involved. And yet the Democrats are asked - when convenient to OWS - why they are not participating, when they have already been told they are unwelcome.
Seeing the needs of the citizenry is one thing. Going about satisfying those needs is another.
The fact that asking a simple question (which I did) about how many OWSers showed up at the "national gathering" was met with obfuscation, comments that "numbers don't matter", etc., says it all.
You don't have the numbers to back up the assertion that Occupy is a 'growing movement" at all. What you're left with is insinuating that anyone who doesn't fall into lockstep with OWS is ignorant, ill-informed, a FAUX-News adherent, and so on.
Simple questions beg a simple answer. And ignoring the question leads one to the obvious conclusion - the numbers are waning, and you just won't admit it.