I know, I know Occupy is dead... right

[sabrina 1]

279. Your question was the 'obfuscation'. Following on a post that proved you wrong

regarding the 'irrelevancy' of OWS. Rather than address the information provided for you, you leaped to what is a well-known tactic. I did a quick google search and found the numbers in a few seconds. Therefore, it was clear to me that if that was what you wanted, you could have done the same thing. I do not respond to 'tactics'. And there is no chance of obfuscation when the information is so readily available. So much for that claim.

And this is a totally false claim:

I have read over and over - especially on this board - that Occupy is NOT a political movement, and that no one wants either political party to be involved. And yet the Democrats are asked - when convenient to OWS - why they are not participating, when they have already been told they are unwelcome.

I don't know what your sources are, but this could not be more incorrect. Democrats were not only NEVER told they were unwelcome by OWS, many of them have participated and were more then welcomed at many OWS events.

Right now, four NYC Council members, are united with OWS protesters in a civil suit against Bloomberg and the NYPD for the illegal treatment they and the protesters were subjected to during demonstrations in which THEY PARTICIPATED. I have no doubt that OWS members in their districts will gladly vote for them in their next elections. Again, where on earth are you getting these stories from?

And what is this? 'You don't have the numbers to back up the assertion that OWS is growing'? Are you even aware that the US Occupy movement was late in joining the Global Movement of which it is now a part? How on earth could anyone count the numbers which are all over the world? This movement is in Hong Kong, in Australia, all over Europe, in Asia, in India, in Africa, even in Antarctica,


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And it grew:

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It is everywhere. And YES, it is growing and likely to grow even more the more the corruption is exposed.

Last November, when OWS coordinated with the rest of the world on the streets of cities across the globe, the numbers were in the millions. And for everyone on the streets of the world's cities, there were hundreds who were supporting them. But who was counting? And they have been joined by protesters in Egypt, in Tunisia and elsewhere, including Iraq, although our new 'democracy' in Iraq totally crushed Iraq's peaceful protesters killing 29 peaceful protesters on the first day.

A simple question that is easily accessible is not a simple question, it is a tactic, and not a very good one as I already pointed out.

You have not answered the simple questions I asked you as to whether or not you support what OWS is currently doing for the poor, the homeless, Veterans, the fore-closed on. You have obfuscated, claiming you don't like HOW they are doing it, or something.

Well frankly I doubt those whose homes have been saved care much about your judgement on how it was done, they are now members of this movement as it grows and expands and continues to actually do something, while keyboard warriors sit around whining about how they are doing it.

You tell THESE PEOPLE that you do not approve of 'how they are doing it' and see what they have to say:

Occupy Our Homes Saves Another Family From Foreclosure



A Detroit husband and wife who have spent months worrying that they might be evicted from their home of 22 years received word on Tuesday morning and learned they will be able to stay.

You tell them that you don't like how Occupy went about helping them.

Occupy Our Homes, a movement to protect families from foreclosures and evictions, has enjoyed a recent string of successes. In February, the group helped Helen Bailey, the 78-year-old former civil rights activist who was threatened with foreclosure by JPMorgan Chase while the company trumpeted its efforts to uphold Martin Luther King Jr.’s legacy, to stay in her home following a successful campaign by Occupy Nashville.

The group also aided a Detroit husband and wife who spent months worrying they could be evicted from their home of twenty-two years. The couple received news they would be permitted to stay after an aggressive campaign that was led by members of Moratorium Now, Occupy Detroit and Homes Before Banks and included the family’s supporters blocking the contractor from placing a dumpster.

Additionally, Occupy Atlanta prevented the eviction of a family when two dozen protesters encamped on the family’s lawn, and Occupy Our Homes delayed another foreclosure in Rochester, as did Occupy Cleveland in November.

Most recently, Occupy Homes MN worked with a mother of one of the group’s organizers to keep her home.

Read the whole article if you actually do give a damn about people affected by the corruption on Wall Street or don't, but your standards of how it should be done, mean nothing, unless you are doing it better.

Seeing the needs of the citizenry is one thing. Going about satisfying those needs is another.

Yes, exactly. But you have refused to comment on the fact 'going about meeting those needs' is exactly what OWS is currently successfully doing. Why is that? It's a simple question after all.