I know, I know Occupy is dead... right

[Summer Hathaway]

294. We've gone through this before, sabrina

Your attempts to insist that I said something I clearly didn't say - and the posts are there for all to see.

"And no, you started by saying that OWS was irrelevant." No, my first foray into this thread was to ask if anyone had the numbers for NatGat participants.

For me, OWS is irrelevant. You did not prove me wrong. It is still irrelevant to me.

"I don't know why you are unwilling to admit that you do not like this new Global Social Justice Movement. There is no requirement that you do. Yet, you are struggling hard to try to explain your position for some inexplicable reason."

I have not attempted to explain my reasons for thinking OWS irrelevant at all. I have merely stated - over and over - that the numbers (or lack of a willingness to admit to them) does not go very far in convincing anyone that Occupy is a growing movement, which was the idea behind the OP.

Again, like far too many here, you translate a lack of support for OWS as 'opposition to a movement'. I am neither opposed nor supportive. Because it is all irrelevant to me.

"It's not a crime, I can deal with your position. What I do not like, is the pretense, the attempt to have it both ways because that simply is not possible."

I am not sure what you mean by 'having it both ways'. I think I have been abundantly clear as to how 'I will have it', and it is equally clear that it is one way: I will have the Occupiers tell me their numbers are growing with facts that back up that assertion - or, when the numbers don't support their assertion, I will call them on it.

"I am not new to this kind of opposition to OWS. But at least the Right make no pretenses, they simply hate OWS and say so, without the prevarications."

I don't hate OWS. It is irrelevant to me. Are you suggesting I am part of the Right because I don't support OWS? If that is the case, just say so yourself.

Oooh, edited to add: "Your next claim was that OWS was not doing things that helped people."

Well, sabrina - please feel free to quote the post in which I said any such thing. Or merely identify it. G'head.