"It increasingly looks like Russian hackers may have affected actual vote totals."

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209. Not even that it was a horrible campaign....

...but that she just had too much baggage and history and negatives to win. And despite what was promised at every turn, the campaign wasn't prepared for "whatever was thrown at her" in the form of the Comey thing. They responded like deer in the headlights.

And no, saying any of that that doesn't mean the criticisms against her were right, or fair or accurate or anything else, or that the media doesn't suck and the Republicans don't lie. Just that a lot of people knew that it would take way too much work and effort and a very "needle threading" campaign to counterbalance all that stuff and to win. And that didn't happen. And a lot of people don't want to admit that.

I personally think all the stuff about Democrats living in a bubble and not being in touch with "real America" or whatever else is complete bullshit. But I do think a lot of Democrats, particularly within the establishment wanted to admit what an uphill battle Hillary faced and just to what degree that people did not (right or wrong) trust her or the people she surrounded herself with. They wanted to instead point to these general, unscientific polls that showed her as popular and ignoring any deeper analyses. So eventually it became less about what it actually took to win the presidency, and more about putting all our chips on proving people wrong.

But you know what, that's all done now and we all have to move forward with what we have and what happened. But I still do see a lot of people who it wouldn't surprise me to believe think that if this whole Russia thing is proven beyond the shadow of a doubt and Trump is ousted or whatever else, that somehow Hillary will be magically appointed president.