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leftyladyfrommo

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101. Yes. But at least he has a dog.

Reply to Doug the Dem (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 07:07 PM

Jun 2017

They just got a puppy.

He probably isn't a sociopath.

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"But, but if we Get Rid of Trump, we'll End Up with Pence" [View all] Doug the Dem Jun 2017 OP

Those are all good points....... CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2017 #1

This. retrowire Jun 2017 #29

You are mistaken about succession. This is an astoundingly common error. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #36

Thank you for the information! In this case, I am glad to be wrong. CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2017 #59

Simultaneous conviction not required. thesquanderer Jun 2017 #60

Good points. I think that Congress might rush a VP confirmation rather than a forced Ryan ascension Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #91

Thanks wryter2000 Jun 2017 #80

"Ryan is Third in Line for thr Presidency" Doug the Dem Jun 2017 #116

Exactly! In a way, that's even scarier lunamagica Jun 2017 #68

They are ALREADY doing things "stealthily and without fanfare" pnwmom Jun 2017 #69

Neither Pence nor Ryan are idiots or loose cannons whathehell Jun 2017 #110

Sane and Predictable...just a ruthless, dangerously misogynistic theocrat hlthe2b Jun 2017 #2

"....just a ruthless, dangerously misogynistic theocrat.." pangaia Jun 2017 #30

No... because Trump's narcissism is the ONLY predictable thing about him. hlthe2b Jun 2017 #35

Pence is also...... SergeStorms Jun 2017 #52

So was George W* hlthe2b Jun 2017 #58

I think he just rode that horse. annabanana Jun 2017 #72

No. Not capable of "putting country first" UNLESS you define "country" as... TygrBright Jun 2017 #79

I mean in terms of catastrophic destructive acts--nuclear war. hlthe2b Jun 2017 #83

You think he's incapable of kicking off the End Times by provoking a nuke incident? TygrBright Jun 2017 #84

Incapable no, as nearly happened by accident under at least one Democratic Pres. hlthe2b Jun 2017 #85

Preach! NightWatcher Jun 2017 #3

Pence is ideologically terrible, but he's less likely to start a war The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author unblock Jun 2017 #10

But his behavior will also be less visible. pangaia Jun 2017 #31

Sorry, but must disagree strongly. zentrum Jun 2017 #88

Pence would be far less chaotic, allowing a lot more to get done as far as implementing a Amaryllis Jun 2017 #111

Yes, that's my point. Might be zentrum Jun 2017 #115

The possibility of Trump starting a diversionary war scares me more than anything flibbitygiblets Jun 2017 #98

Maybe not. He might be looking at the same fate as Trump. procon Jun 2017 #5

doesn't much matter in the sense that no matter what, a republican will still be president unblock Jun 2017 #11

Actually, it matters a great deal. procon Jun 2017 #24

fair point, though i'd say we get 90% of the benefit from successfully forcing donnie out unblock Jun 2017 #28

What would have happened if Ford had not issued the pardon exboyfil Jun 2017 #43

hard to say. he certainly took a hit for that decision; on the other hand, unblock Jun 2017 #71

I guess it is the lesser of two evils. But in this case , both are evil to the same degree. SummerSnow Jun 2017 #6

cheato hides behind a religion he doesnt even believe in. mopinko Jun 2017 #55

Disagree. If Trump is so tained he is forced out, they all are. They're all complicit and unfit to WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2017 #7

I think you miss your own point. Trump is tainted, and so is everyone else. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2017 #14

agreed NewJeffCT Jun 2017 #44

Mike Pence is probably very very dangerous. That said, there are no real downsides to getting rid JCanete Jun 2017 #8

re: "no real downsides to getting rid of Trump" thesquanderer Jun 2017 #63

that's fair. In some ways I would rather have a Trump than a Pence. I just think under the JCanete Jun 2017 #74

He also totally lacks charisma and is widely recognized as extreme in his views. athena Jun 2017 #9

Trump has that smarmy con-man charisma NewJeffCT Jun 2017 #45

Guilty as charged. Missn-Hitch Jun 2017 #12

Pence would be terrible but a) far less volatile than Trump and b) heavily tainted due to Trump. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2017 #13

He is NOT sane. He's no better than the Taliban. ImpeachTheGOP Jun 2017 #15

I agree. N/t spooky3 Jun 2017 #65

Pence is going to go down too. Catmusicfan Jun 2017 #16

No wonder he hired a lawyer. he knows. SummerSnow Jun 2017 #66

Let's get Trump out of the Oval Office first gratuitous Jun 2017 #17

the administration will be totally crippled. unable to pass anything....as it is now spanone Jun 2017 #18

Trump is going to be the most BootinUp Jun 2017 #19

Disagree hibbing Jun 2017 #70

Pence may not be the lesser of 2 evils, but he is the lesser of 2 crazies..... FM123 Jun 2017 #20

Thank you.. I get tired of that line myself nini Jun 2017 #21

A bit more... Xolodno Jun 2017 #22

I second this opinion. Shell_Seas Jun 2017 #23

Uphold the law. More worried about Lyin' Ryan onit2day Jun 2017 #25

Pence is a true believer, which makes him dangerous IMO MariaCSR Jun 2017 #26

Pence is a rabid Dominionist theocratic fascist..... magicarpet Jun 2017 #100

Pence is on the skids too. Turbineguy Jun 2017 #27

I think that Pence is more dangerous than Dolt 45*. catbyte Jun 2017 #32

this. Joe941 Jun 2017 #42

This. Neema Jun 2017 #106

dems have No power to get rid of trump. repubs will have to do that nt msongs Jun 2017 #33

Impeachment should be about the rule of law ThoughtCriminal Jun 2017 #34

+1,000,000 right here folks. Lucky Luciano Jun 2017 #62

Most Definitely Martin Eden Jun 2017 #96

Louise Mensch has reported that Orrin Hatch is next in line Not Ruth Jun 2017 #37

Mensch has had a few scoops NewJeffCT Jun 2017 #46

Louise Mensch doesn't know what she's talking about - again. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #47

"Designated survivor" is not the same as "designated successor." TygrBright Jun 2017 #81

The only way Hatch becomes #46...... magicarpet Jun 2017 #104

If I'm going to fantasize, Neema Jun 2017 #107

Sane enough to actually enact policy, and that's what scares me. tinrobot Jun 2017 #38

Pence will be on a VERY SHORT LEASH. vkkv Jun 2017 #39

Pence COULD RESIGN BEFORE TRUMP does or is IMPEACHED. vkkv Jun 2017 #40

Dominos fall one at a time. Just saying. MoonRiver Jun 2017 #41

And Ryan wouldn't have a chance to be president....he shunned it for weeks!! onecent Jun 2017 #48

Ryan would not accept appointment as VP by Trump or Pence. Ryan wants to be Reagan in 2024 Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #86

Good. Thanks for the info! onecent Jun 2017 #87

I don't buy this argument. drray23 Jun 2017 #49

Sorry - I WANT SOCIOPATHS TO BE AS INEPT AS POSSIBLE - period Steven Maurer Jun 2017 #50

This. You put it way more succinctly than I did. Thanks. n/t TygrBright Jun 2017 #82

Yes, I agree. Pence is very cold and efficient. Not as unpredictable but just as Neema Jun 2017 #108

They are all guilty of collusion and treason, per se, so take them down one at a time. Eliot Rosewater Jun 2017 #51

Ya gotta point Moral Compass Jun 2017 #53

Yep. While Pence would be a horror... regnaD kciN Jun 2017 #54

Based off of Pence's religiosity, I could hardly call him sane, but he's not a complete lunatic. TheBlackAdder Jun 2017 #56

I agree! get the red out Jun 2017 #57

Rumors and leaks on Twitter say Gman Jun 2017 #61

at this point i would even welcome GW Bush! samnsara Jun 2017 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author madinmaryland Jun 2017 #73

we need to just take this step wise. the dumpster MUST go. then we will worry about what NRaleighLiberal Jun 2017 #67

Pence at least pretends to respect our laws. Progressive dog Jun 2017 #75

Pence would ditch Bannon, though. flying_wahini Jun 2017 #76

Pence IS the Christian Right, Opus Dei version. They'll LOOOOOVE him. TygrBright Jun 2017 #78

No, he is NOT sane. TygrBright Jun 2017 #77

Al Franken says Pence is worse zentrum Jun 2017 #89

We don't know if he is involved in Trump's crimes. alfredo Jun 2017 #90

Recced this so hard. It's so damn dumb. kcr Jun 2017 #92

was leadership Republicans plan all along," ignore trump, keep him busy" "worse case is Pence is in" Sunlei Jun 2017 #93

Pence is more like Greg Stilson than Trump virtualobserver Jun 2017 #94

Trump is literally a traitor. backscatter712 Jun 2017 #95

I agree with you! Also it drives me nuts people saying that. It's like they want to stop us from Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #97

If he's really sane, why is he Trump's VP? ecstatic Jun 2017 #99

Yes. But at least he has a dog. leftyladyfrommo Jun 2017 #101

Just because Pence is quieter than blustery Dump, he is dangerously worse! bresue Jun 2017 #102

Pence would pardon Dump SHRED Jun 2017 #103

I cannot agree that he's entirely sane. A man who supposedly fervently follows Christ while also Neema Jun 2017 #105

But all the Repukes in Congress would probably support Pence. El Supremo Jun 2017 #109

I've said it before ... Whiskeytide Jun 2017 #112

Pence is a religious Bigot as is Trump yuiyoshida Jun 2017 #113

Spiro Agnew was supposed to provide impeachment cover for Nixon thucythucy Jun 2017 #114

"We may lose all our rights, but at least a nuke won't fry us!" RhodeIslandOne Jun 2017 #117

Was Pence not the architect of New Orleans neocon Bush revolution applegrove Jun 2017 #118

Pence is a monster who wants to take away my rights. He can fuck off. DemocraticWing Jun 2017 #119

mikey APPEARS sane, but his misogyny, homophobia, bigotry, religious zealotry, etc., make niyad Jun 2017 #120