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Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
24. Many of the same people who note how Republican anti-Ossoff ads also used Bernie as a foil
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 09:29 AM
Jun 2017

...posted numerous threads here at DU attacking Bernie for not personally doing more to stand by Ossoff and overtly help his campaign. The best thing Sanders did for Ossoff in that race was to say that he didn't know if Ossoff was progressive, but that brought howls of protest here. Had Bernie tried to take the lead in promoting Ossoff more, there just would have been more attack ads against Ossoff featuring Bernie.

As far as I know Senator Sanders has not questioned Leader Pelosi's leadership, nor in an way called for her replacement. Do you have any instances of him doing so? And no, broad expressions about a need for the Democratic Party to reexamine it's priorities is in no way the same as calling for the replacement of a sitting leader in the House.

You are painting a very large group of people with a very broad brush by implying that Bernie Sanders is the fountainhead for all expressed dissatisfaction with the failure of Democrats to win more key races, or the questioning of current leadership when that occurs. It has been that way in American politics literally for centuries. It is often not fair but it is predictably knee jerk, and there are always some folks looking for an opportunity to move up through the ranks to higher leadership positions. That happens in both parties, typically after losing elections.

I support Bernie Sanders, that's no secret around here. But I also support Nancy Pelosi, and I make no secret of that either. Hence this OP that I posted here yesterday: "Nancy Pelosi has been an extremely effective leader"
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029237169

I reject any suggestion that there is any dissonance in holding those views. Both are progressive leaders for America

to me this shows that it is about culture and many men relate to conservative men JI7 Jun 2017 #1
Oh really.. Well how about that! "..Bernie was in the same ads as Pelosi.." Cha Jun 2017 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane Jun 2017 #3
Oh yeah.. better to not.. We believe it. Cha Jun 2017 #4
Kickin' this Hekate Jun 2017 #5
You know what I find sad... sheshe2 Jun 2017 #6
K&R betsuni Jun 2017 #7
The republikkans use pelosi in 75-85% of their ads when races are tight rpannier Jun 2017 #8
What does her being in the House have anything to do with the criticism? BainsBane Jun 2017 #10
Wow JustAnotherGen Jun 2017 #11
Not exactly decrying the establishment BainsBane Jun 2017 #13
Nope - it sure isn't JustAnotherGen Jun 2017 #18
This would play into the hands of the GOP...it is what they want. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #14
Good for you BainsBane Jun 2017 #27
So anyone the GOP deomonizes, we should just get rid of because they need to run the Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #15
KICK for Nancy! Cha Jun 2017 #9
K&R Jamaal510 Jun 2017 #12
He is their great white male hope. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #16
It's very sad when people who claim to be Democrats brer cat Jun 2017 #17
#StandWithNancy Cha Jun 2017 #19
I stand with Nancy! mcar Jun 2017 #29
Bad faith! Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #20
I expect all those calling for Pelosi to step down mcar Jun 2017 #21
OMG!! You're TOTALLY correct! NurseJackie Jun 2017 #22
Yes. I've hear zero calls for Senator Sanders to step down. MineralMan Jun 2017 #23
Many of the same people who note how Republican anti-Ossoff ads also used Bernie as a foil Tom Rinaldo Jun 2017 #24
K&R ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #25
White men are never blamed for their failures, it's always someone else's fault La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #26
AAh I love a good whataboutism.nt m-lekktor Jun 2017 #28
Lol BainsBane Jun 2017 #32
Your consistent narrative is imaginative and creative, regardless of accuracy... LanternWaste Jun 2017 #33
Reminder. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #30
Those so concerned with what the GOP focuses on BainsBane Jun 2017 #34
We had a Blue Dog US Rep (Bobby Bright) for Montgomery AL who... yallerdawg Jun 2017 #35
K&R Gothmog Jun 2017 #31
aren't you dizzy from all that spinning? scipan Jun 2017 #36
Oh, do explain how this constitutes spinning BainsBane Jun 2017 #37
Feel free to elaborate. BainsBane Jun 2017 #38
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