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JCanete

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164. the assumption that this is punching down is silly. Pride actually has a lot of money that goes into

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 06:54 PM

Jun 2017

it. I would never deign to suggest that LGBTQ aren't horribly and sometimes very violently discriminated against, but they have far more resources and connections, than the poor black community that is particularly targeted by violence. Black people being historically kept financially and politically in check(because they couldn't hide this detail the way many LGBTQ have had to do), do not have as many invested allies with as deep pockets. And don't tell me money doesn't matter.

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BLM shuts down gay pride parade in Seattle [View all] LittleBlue Jun 2017 OP

your title is misleading OhNo-Really Jun 2017 #1

Q13 has been around since way before Faux Noise LittleBlue Jun 2017 #2

A 30 minute interruption OhNo-Really Jun 2017 #5

It truly Delphinus Jun 2017 #22

thank you OhNo-Really Jun 2017 #24

Even more, we need tolerance and acceptance when Hortensis Jun 2017 #37

And many groups who identify as "liberal"... The Polack MSgt Jun 2017 #103

Yes, "how about." But political labels are frequently inaccurate, Hortensis Jun 2017 #116

+1 nt NCTraveler Jun 2017 #70

exactly.. we need to stay on the SAME SIDE!!! samnsara Jun 2017 #126

Check out the human chain guarding them OhNo-Really Jun 2017 #11

Still title is misleading although a good attention getter. OhNo-Really Jun 2017 #25

A misleading title is not "a good attention getter." It's bullshit and not for DU... Hekate Jun 2017 #89

Googled BLM "gay parade" shut down OhNo-Really Jun 2017 #3

No idea LittleBlue Jun 2017 #4

It's the rainbows 🌈, nobody likes them. Agschmid Jun 2017 #6

. . . janx Jun 2017 #18

Because there is no fucking pot of gold. Just an elf who looks like Jeff Sessions. n/t rzemanfl Jun 2017 #76

Lol. Agschmid Jun 2017 #99

They want the spotlight on their issue NobodyHere Jun 2017 #7

They are being murdered by police, OhNo-Really Jun 2017 #10

And LGBT are just living perfect lives with no issues at all? NobodyHere Jun 2017 #12

Black LGBTQ folks exist. SaschaHM Jun 2017 #35

Guess what, black LGBTQ folks can attend two fucking events, then. X_Digger Jun 2017 #65

SO Pride is still only for white gays. Glad to see you confirm that. Welcome to my ignore list. SaschaHM Jun 2017 #85

SO you still beat your dog? X_Digger Jun 2017 #88

So does the LGBT community, and liberalhistorian Jun 2017 #105

Maybe BLM coordinated with parade sponsors OhNo-Really Jun 2017 #8

Same here joeybee12 Jun 2017 #54

Same thought. BLM controls a lot of land in the Northwest. I thought - monument? Shrike47 Jun 2017 #84

I must confess customerserviceguy Jun 2017 #108

No they did not Coordinate with Heritage of Pride. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #137

Perhaps BLM feels OhNo-Really Jun 2017 #13

I don't understand it, either, liberalhistorian Jun 2017 #104

Why shut down the Gay parades??? Because there is an audience. Raster Jun 2017 #130

Yeah, that'd go over like diarrhea in the hot tub. And they know it, but won't admit it. n/t X_Digger Jun 2017 #163

And all they did was piss a lot of people off yesterday. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #138

DC was not BLM it was a local group FreeState Jun 2017 #171

Wasn't it in Seattle the BLM big mouths shut down a Bernie rally? Archae Jun 2017 #9

where is your compassion? OhNo-Really Jun 2017 #14

Oh I get it. Sarcasm. Kingofalldems Jun 2017 #87

Pro-Social Security rally in which Bernie was invited to speak. SMC22307 Jun 2017 #23

You guys are so transparent now La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #46

You missed the DU poster comparing them to dogs. SaschaHM Jun 2017 #51

Literally not surprised. La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #53

That was not a Bernie rally, although he was there. LisaM Jun 2017 #101

I would take a cue from Bernie on how to discuss that... JCanete Jun 2017 #120

Arrogant and selfish. Behind the Aegis Jun 2017 #15

probably far more complicated than that. Black lgbqt feel discriminated agaist and or relegated to JCanete Jun 2017 #20

But that is not WHY they distrubed the pride parade. Behind the Aegis Jun 2017 #39

Agreed fallout87 Jun 2017 #173

This Right Here LovingA2andMI Jun 2017 #40

Divide and Conquer NOT THIS TIME AROUND OhNo-Really Jun 2017 #26

If that were true, or how THEY saw it... Behind the Aegis Jun 2017 #38

Not true OhNo-Really Jun 2017 #57

When they disrupt a Women's March or a Palestinian "Justice" march, then I will believe it. Behind the Aegis Jun 2017 #94

they have been protesting and speaking out at some of the women's marches and other JI7 Jun 2017 #107

Protesting? Disrupting? If so, I haven't seen it. Behind the Aegis Jun 2017 #111

i have mostly seen criticisms but there also aren't many organized or planned women's marches JI7 Jun 2017 #112

I wholeheartedly agree. Raster Jun 2017 #131

Yes it is. cwydro Jun 2017 #30

Because blacks are not gay? La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #45

Last I checked, there were plenty of people of color in any Pride parade I've attended. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2017 #80

Because the parade has become a celebration not a protest La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #127

That's you and that's how you look at it. Raster Jun 2017 #133

Or is it an example of the rights of others being MORE important. Behind the Aegis Jun 2017 #93

No. An example of a marginalized group standing up for themselves. Gravitycollapse Jun 2017 #123

yes, on the backs of someone else. Raster Jun 2017 #134

Privileged people don't get a pity party when someone calls them out. Gravitycollapse Jun 2017 #157

Yup dbackjon Jun 2017 #152

Get your own goddamned parade. n/t X_Digger Jun 2017 #16

Or at least coordinate with the organizers NobodyHere Jun 2017 #17

Maybe they did OhNo-Really Jun 2017 #27

great messaging. Everybody is in it for themselves. I'm not advocating the disruption, though at JCanete Jun 2017 #21

Agree 100% OhNo-Really Jun 2017 #28

I could be wrong OhNo-Really Jun 2017 #29

I'm sure some in the movement's leadership have been very smart about how to remember other JCanete Jun 2017 #33

I think you're wrong NobodyHere Jun 2017 #102

Go have an LGBT equality protest at a BLM event, see how that shit works on the other foot. X_Digger Jun 2017 #49

So Pride is just a celebration of the issues affecting white gays, got it. SaschaHM Jun 2017 #56

Nice straw man argument. X_Digger Jun 2017 #61

Exactly. cwydro Jun 2017 #96

can't be bothered to set up their own events? BLM are lazy? Is that what you are suggesting? WTF? JCanete Jun 2017 #117

Git Gud. Organizing an effective protest takes work. Punching down on another community is shitty.nt X_Digger Jun 2017 #162

the assumption that this is punching down is silly. Pride actually has a lot of money that goes into JCanete Jun 2017 #164

You know, it's not been that long since it was goddamned illegal to be gay. X_Digger Jun 2017 #166

play what shit? I have no disagreement with your statement. What did I say that was actually JCanete Jun 2017 #168

Was the parade inclusive? Dr. Strange Jun 2017 #78

That is not the Pride parade. Bloody Splitters. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2017 #82

NO JI7 Jun 2017 #118

It's a GAY PRIDE parade. It is their parade. That's the point. Gravitycollapse Jun 2017 #124

Correct, it was not a BLM parade. n/t X_Digger Jun 2017 #165

Invite BLM to march in the parade as well, as long as it is peaceful. roamer65 Jun 2017 #19

⬆️ this!!! OhNo-Really Jun 2017 #32

Post removed Post removed Jun 2017 #31

As a LGBTQ PoC, I can understand the grievances w/ the mainstream lgbtq movement SaschaHM Jun 2017 #34

Yup La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #48

There can be more unity OhNo-Really Jun 2017 #60

BLM seems to focus on soft targets Zorro Jun 2017 #36

Good point. cwydro Jun 2017 #43

Or they'd get killed. They show up among people who should be allies La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #44

MLK did not confine the marches he led to friendly environments Zorro Jun 2017 #55

Lol every black leader doesn't have to be mlk or use his tactics La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #73

Who said MLK's methods didn't piss off white people? Zorro Jun 2017 #75

I don't think anyone could explain just what the hell happened in Toronto Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #41

Is that when they shut down Toronto's gay pride parade hughee99 Jun 2017 #47

That was just the begining... Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #52

All pride parades are actually protests La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #42

Only this year have they become political again joeybee12 Jun 2017 #58

Dunno nyc seemed a party to me La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #64

Didn't go to any this year joeybee12 Jun 2017 #66

It's almost like police violence only matters when it's against white gays.... SaschaHM Jun 2017 #59

Yup La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #63

I'm sorry; I'm not buying that. cwydro Jun 2017 #62

Why? janx Jun 2017 #50

Did a 30-minute vigil shut down the whole parade? Buns_of_Fire Jun 2017 #67

Exactly. RIP Charleena Lyles. Shot to death by police R B Garr Jun 2017 #71

You're missing the lens of racism to view this thing La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #72

So all of the people inconvenienced were white? melman Jun 2017 #74

No I'm saying those are the ones who are complaining La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #79

But LLP, in your reply #64 you said that the NYC Gay Pride parade seemed like a party. janx Jun 2017 #81

Also people pretend that there isn't a lot of waiting around anyway La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #90

We are in the same coalition despite our differences marylandblue Jun 2017 #68

They're picking the wrong targets for their protest. George II Jun 2017 #69

You are spot on. I don't understand why people who should be smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #83

Really? SaschaHM Jun 2017 #86

Progressives fighting against each is the right wing wet dream. Conservatives are smiling today. TeamPooka Jun 2017 #77

Exactly customerserviceguy Jun 2017 #109

Then it seems to me the solution is simple. Don't do it. kcr Jun 2017 #132

What a monumentally divisive thread. When I turn on the news tonight will I see it's "everywhere"? Hekate Jun 2017 #91

They temporarily stopped the parade as a legitimate act of protest. Ken Burch Jun 2017 #92

There was definitely a protest against the parade itself oberliner Jun 2017 #121

OK. Didn't know that. Can understand that, though. Ken Burch Jun 2017 #143

GOAL has been marching for decades in uniform and it has never been a problem before. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #146

I totally get that goal. I also totally get why people are angry at the police, and fearful of them JCanete Jun 2017 #147

Tension with the police is always going to be an issue. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #148

It's a bad tactic. Appalling is what is happening to black people at the hands of police. JCanete Jun 2017 #149

Yes GOAL and BLM should meet. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #150

It happened in Toronto last year as well. Ken Burch Jun 2017 #154

I am sorry but we are not going to exclude gay cops and they will March in uniform. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #155

If I might ask, why does it have to be in uniform? Ken Burch Jun 2017 #156

Because it is the office they hold. They March in uniform in every parade here. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #160

They stopped the parade in NYC. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #145

I haven't heard people here in Seattle raging about this. nolabear Jun 2017 #95

Then BLM should march in solidarity with the organized march instead of disrupting it Zorro Jun 2017 #97

I honestly know nothing of this current event Not Ruth Jun 2017 #98

Is this the statement? Not Ruth Jun 2017 #100

there is a lot of misleading stuff on this. they did not shut it down. there are many articles JI7 Jun 2017 #106

I had a feeling that when the truth came out about this, that is what it would sound like. stevenleser Jun 2017 #113

Thank you for the info. Maybe OP will be edited, maybe not but you know what? JHan Jun 2017 #115

I'm a white gay man and I'm glad they did it. DemocraticWing Jun 2017 #110

You don't think police forces ought to be allowed to participate? oberliner Jun 2017 #122

There's a long and brutal history that gets pinkwashed. SaschaHM Jun 2017 #142

..... La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #125

I am a white gay guy and I completely agree with everything you wrote. m-lekktor Jun 2017 #129

I find the divisions on BLM support to be similar as it was during the primaries. Almost same folks stevenleser Jun 2017 #151

Wait, capitalism is now a crime? Who knew! X_Digger Jun 2017 #167

Hear hear! MariaCSR Jun 2017 #170

Clearly evidence that this divide and conquer strategy is absolutely working Tiggeroshii Jun 2017 #114

Post removed Post removed Jun 2017 #119

weird - it is not a matter of either/or treestar Jun 2017 #128

what they did in NYC yesterday was totally uncalled for. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #135

Flamebaiting bullshit tenderfoot Jun 2017 #136

The protest happened in NYC. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #139

They marched to protest police shootings and resulting acquittals tenderfoot Jun 2017 #140

The protestors blocked GOAL and wanted them booted from the parade. Do you know who GOAL is? hrmjustin Jun 2017 #141

I am shocked at the Racists post here Rustyeye77 Jun 2017 #144

One can support BLM, but not support every single action they do dbackjon Jun 2017 #153

Post removed Post removed Jun 2017 #158

If saying this was a bad way to protest is racist Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #159

Honestly romanic Jun 2017 #161

White, straight southern old guy calling in. PurgedVoter Jun 2017 #169

Way to piss off your allies BLM. n/t FreeState Jun 2017 #172