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Lee-Lee

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20. The USPS is many things- secure is not one of them
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 12:25 PM
Jul 2017

The USPS has a loss rate for mail that while low if you think about mail is way to high to be tolerable for lost votes.

There is no secure chain of custody for regular USPS mail. When paper ballots are used in an election they require two people have eyes on them at all times to assure there is no tampering and no ballot box stuffing or other irregularities. The USPS has none of that.

You see stories every year of postal employees busted for trashing mail or storing it instead do delivering. And that is just the ones that get caught and get publicity. If is that easy for it to happen out of laziness then it's clear that the system is not secure and that someone with the intent of messing with the election could just as easily do that to ballots.

For USPS to be considered secure for transfer or evidence for something like a criminal investigation you have to use Express or Priority mail with tracking and require a signature on delivery. That's not going to happen with every ballot in the country.

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I think all elections in which those easily hacked machines are used Warpy Jul 2017 #1
I hope so too. leftieNanner Jul 2017 #2
Mail-in voting might be the way to go nationwide blue-wave Jul 2017 #9
The election in question had mail-in ballots, month of early voting and a judge even gave us an Hoyt Jul 2017 #13
Mail in voting is more susceptible to fraud than electronic Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #15
Oregon has it worked out leftieNanner Jul 2017 #17
What's to stop some USPS employee from discarding ballots from minority neighborhoods? Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #19
The USPS leftieNanner Jul 2017 #18
The USPS is many things- secure is not one of them Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #20
I disagree with that strategy MichMan Jul 2017 #3
Beats the hell out of the strategy so far Warpy Jul 2017 #4
Never said none should ever be challenged MichMan Jul 2017 #6
Except there is no evidence that any votes have ever been hacked mythology Jul 2017 #11
Thats very optomistic quakerboy Jul 2017 #7
Agreed - contest them all even if you win Valhallakey Jul 2017 #10
All you have to do is RandomAccess Jul 2017 #5
LInks to articles iluvtennis Jul 2017 #8
In this case, waste of time and makes us look like whining poor losers. GOPers got out vote in red Hoyt Jul 2017 #12
Are they citing specific claims of how it was hacked or proof votes were changed Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #14
Unfortunately it looks like a theory with no evidence, with a side of sour grapes Amishman Jul 2017 #16
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