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haele

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16. Funk and White's Elements of Style...
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 04:17 PM
Jul 2017

The best advice I ever had from a writer who was also teaching my English Composition class was to read a lot.
For Non-Fiction, research and write a few essays on the topic you want to write about. 10 - 15 pages; the normal "chapter" size.
After you've finished, put them away and read other authors on your topic. After you've finished, read your essays *aloud* to yourself.
If your essays "flow" from point to point in a logical order and don't continue to re-hash personal opinions as concepts or seem repetitious or as if you were presenting "bullet points" to hammer your audience with, then you have a good chance to flesh out the subject and be able to flesh out the draft outline you will need to create to bound your Non-Fiction presentation into a book (rather than a lecture).

If you're a fiction writer, write a few "short stories" in the style of your favorite authors with their characters, and compare the differences in the "read". If your plot and characterization seem to be something that writer would have come up with, then you've got a good idea on your writing capabilities.
The most common "how did you learn to write" explanation I've read from successful authors I like was - "as a child, I used to write continuing adventures of characters in the books I liked..."
That, and not self-editing too much. Back in the 90's (Before the Cloud), I had a friend who wanted to write historical romance and actually finished a draft manuscript she was going to send out to an editor. It was pretty good; she researched the time period and developed well rounded characters that weren't "anachronistic", her main and sub-plots were reasonable for the time period, and her dialog did not go into exposition too much.
She had just started shopping agents - and after a first rejection from an agent that dealt with History Non-Fiction, she decided to tweak the plot a bit for the Romance Novel agents; after all, Romance "trilogies" and series make lots of money, right? (She loved the Brother Cadfell novels, ignoring the fact that after the sixth book in the series, the author was pretty much rehashing the same basic plots along with the interspersing of history...)

Since she had fallen in love with her main hero character (always a risk, especially after a divorce..), she decided to put a bit more of herself into her heroine; completely turning both characters into 20th century idealized stand-ins...
...and she re-wrote over her 300+ page final draft (instead of saving it to a floppy first) and by the time she started sending out her manuscript to fiction agents, all she got was "won't sell, needs a lot more work, needs research, just not balanced between plot and characters..."

And what would have been a really nice historical adventure-romance turned into FanFic that would only be sold either in the back Sci-Fi/Fantesy errata corner of a local comic book shop or at conventions.

Anyway, Good Luck. And whether the book is Fiction or Non-Fiction - don't fall in love with your main characters!

Haele

Fiction or nonfiction? The Blue Flower Jul 2017 #1
Non Fiction...but could go either way angstlessk Jul 2017 #5
Do you mean a memoir? That is a very specific style, otherwise non-fiction and fiction are miles anneboleyn Jul 2017 #15
Thank you, very informative angstlessk Jul 2017 #19
See I am getting angry...angry for my mother who sent me there angstlessk Jul 2017 #20
It sounds like you have a really important story to tell. Do it. Tell it. I have no Squinch Jul 2017 #27
You open a new document in Word The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #2
I want to say...very funny, but you are probably the best advise... angstlessk Jul 2017 #7
And find a good proofreader who will know you meant 'advice'. trof Jul 2017 #21
The question is...where do I post it..with proof it will not be stolen? angstlessk Jul 2017 #9
Don't post it at all, or if you do, add the copyright symbol to anything The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #11
ROFL snooper2 Jul 2017 #18
For some people, this actually works. musicblind Jul 2017 #25
Have you looked here? Wounded Bear Jul 2017 #3
Do you journal or blog? NRaleighLiberal Jul 2017 #4
I love to read, but never journaled my life angstlessk Jul 2017 #6
My advice - read Stephen King's book On Writing NRaleighLiberal Jul 2017 #8
Open Microsoft Word and type the first sentence. MineralMan Jul 2017 #10
You are correct...no shortcuts angstlessk Jul 2017 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2017 #30
I do not know how to write A book, I only know how to write this one. politicat Jul 2017 #13
This is fabulous. I'm bookmarking this. Squinch Jul 2017 #29
I've been published three times. musicblind Jul 2017 #14
Great advice -- I also pointed out basics that are very hard (dialogue for example). I can always anneboleyn Jul 2017 #17
For some, dialogue is hard. musicblind Jul 2017 #24
Speaking more as a reader than as a writer, dialogue seems to be The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #31
Funk and White's Elements of Style... haele Jul 2017 #16
For later tnlurker Jul 2017 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author tblue37 Jul 2017 #23
One word after another. Go from there. WinkyDink Jul 2017 #26
Contact your local University English Department.... Adrahil Jul 2017 #28
Take a book you like and outline it. AngryAmish Jul 2017 #32
My mom used to do that, she was the ghostwriter for a few books. hunter Jul 2017 #33
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