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In reply to the discussion: Mexico is having the largest protest the world has ever seen; Media blacked it out! [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)52. I'm familiar with it, not sure if I read it or watched it, but here's the video for the folks here..
Chris Hedges - War is a Force That Gives Us Meaning
This is is a local presentation, if you or anyone have time they might want to check out the channel, it has been a source of new ideas and news ignore by MSM for years.
I d read somewhere, not sure if it was from Hedges, that one purpose of war is to make money or grab resources.
But the primary purpose is to transform the society that is waging the war. It mobilizes, turns the focus of the people away from everything that proceeded it.
Are they waged with that as a result or as purpose?
The authors of PNAC said that Americans needed a defining moment like Pearl Harbor to unify the people as WW2. It certainly unified most of those who served in Iraq and Afghanistan, they are not all dissidents. For many this is a way of life that unifies their families and lifetimes. They do not care about our arguments.
And I know how unpopular Bush was until 911. MSM were full of stories on the corruption of his friends and the dirty dealing done out of the White House, and it seemed that he would be completely ineffective if not run out of office.
911 saved him and the GOP agenda, and they used the event in the most nihilistic ways possible to get profits funneled to their friends, destroy their enemies (which are not in the Middle East, but in the USA) and destroy the American economy. They wee stupid, they made no mistakes, they were not incompetent. That dog won't hunt when you track down the money.
I'm sure you've read Swanson's book, as well, I finally got a few copies and saved them with others. There is a lot that needs to be examined that is not pleasant but must be decided upon. I'm not even sure how much power any of us have. Hedges also gaven an excellent talk on Hope that was posted in MMV.
He is not giving up and neither should we. Or in the future, our grand children will look to us, unless they have been brain washed against us, and ask us why did we let this happen not only to the USA, but the world.
This is is a local presentation, if you or anyone have time they might want to check out the channel, it has been a source of new ideas and news ignore by MSM for years.
I d read somewhere, not sure if it was from Hedges, that one purpose of war is to make money or grab resources.
But the primary purpose is to transform the society that is waging the war. It mobilizes, turns the focus of the people away from everything that proceeded it.
Are they waged with that as a result or as purpose?
The authors of PNAC said that Americans needed a defining moment like Pearl Harbor to unify the people as WW2. It certainly unified most of those who served in Iraq and Afghanistan, they are not all dissidents. For many this is a way of life that unifies their families and lifetimes. They do not care about our arguments.
And I know how unpopular Bush was until 911. MSM were full of stories on the corruption of his friends and the dirty dealing done out of the White House, and it seemed that he would be completely ineffective if not run out of office.
911 saved him and the GOP agenda, and they used the event in the most nihilistic ways possible to get profits funneled to their friends, destroy their enemies (which are not in the Middle East, but in the USA) and destroy the American economy. They wee stupid, they made no mistakes, they were not incompetent. That dog won't hunt when you track down the money.
I'm sure you've read Swanson's book, as well, I finally got a few copies and saved them with others. There is a lot that needs to be examined that is not pleasant but must be decided upon. I'm not even sure how much power any of us have. Hedges also gaven an excellent talk on Hope that was posted in MMV.
He is not giving up and neither should we. Or in the future, our grand children will look to us, unless they have been brain washed against us, and ask us why did we let this happen not only to the USA, but the world.
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Mexico is having the largest protest the world has ever seen; Media blacked it out! [View all]
Fire Walk With Me
Jul 2012
OP
Even MSNBC? Wow. I'll have to see if the livestream for Rachel works tonight, if
Lionessa
Jul 2012
#4
I believe they're accusing the announced winner of the national election of vote buying
aint_no_life_nowhere
Jul 2012
#9
I got a six pack of Old Style for my Rahm Emanuel vote in the 33rd ward
alcibiades_mystery
Jul 2012
#49
You must have missed the coronation. Tomatoes, signs, booing, enough to force the motorcade to stop.
freshwest
Jul 2012
#32
Thanks! But remember the look on his face? It was mentioned. Too bad Gore didn't stand with the CBC.
freshwest
Jul 2012
#44
I'm familiar with it, not sure if I read it or watched it, but here's the video for the folks here..
freshwest
Jul 2012
#52
"That transformation cannot take place, absent a catalyzing and catastrophic event...
Occulus
Jul 2012
#69
I remember that. That whole military display, and the protesters plastering his
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#54
I remember that too and was very proud of Barbara Boxer for having the courage to
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#63
Well....Latin Faux Snooze is covering it, and complaining that others aren't, as well...
MADem
Jul 2012
#11
The corporate media will cover it - after the talking points faxes are in the right hands.
Junkdrawer
Jul 2012
#12
Possibly Fox started liking the story because of the Opus Dei connection, which
dimbear
Jul 2012
#21
The more hyperbole, the less people are likely to give credence to what you say.
randome
Jul 2012
#33
Ironic. If the millions of people who fled Mexico for the U.S. had been there to vote....
Honeycombe8
Jul 2012
#35
They can. But did they? If they had, this guy wouldn't have one, right? There are 12 million people
Honeycombe8
Jul 2012
#67
I'll bet RT (Russia) and Press (Iran) will as well. Amurika! Wur Nummer wun!
Fire Walk With Me
Jul 2012
#47
I don't think it's the largest -- it's filling the zocalo, that's not so unusual -- mexico city 2001
HiPointDem
Jul 2012
#51