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Egnever

(21,506 posts)
49. Right
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 02:28 AM
Jul 2017

In response to this

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While they don't record every single phone call they would have recorded every single phone call between the US and Russia and even more importantly particular phone calls are "lighted up" for recording by triggering particular words. Names like 'Obama', 'Clinton' or 'Trump' would be automatically tagged.

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They would have recorded every call between the US and Russia

Is what you said.

I am saying I doubt that. Some of them for sure.. every call I doubt that.

I just don't think it is technically possible. The amount of data required even just for all telecommunication between us and Russia is just prohibitive.

Again maybe I am wrong but based on my understanding of data and several of the articles posted on this thread I just don't buy it. Again records of all calls made I don't doubt for a second..the conversations of all of those calls just does not seem plausable at all certainly not for 30 days and beyond that it just becomes increasingly unlikely.

Three years ago Google's total storage was estimated at 10 exobytes, Google has more storage than the government for sure and I would be amazed if it wasn't many times more including Utah. Ten years ago the world's estimated data in voice calls was 65 exobytes. That was the same year the iPhone was released telecommunication traffic has exploded since then.

I just don't think recording the conversations of all calls from and to any first world country is plausable it is just too much data both to store and to transfer to that storage. That is the entirety of my argument.



is this Rachel? FM123 Jul 2017 #1
chris hayes grantcart Jul 2017 #3
Rachel is now going over it grantcart Jul 2017 #4
Why would NSA be taping Goldstone or Eminent? Justice Jul 2017 #2
They are known Russian agents, therefore NSA tapes them. marylandblue Jul 2017 #5
Since Junior initated the phone call they would need a warrant to tape that particular call grantcart Jul 2017 #9
They wouldn't, they store into a cloud and retrieve it later grantcart Jul 2017 #7
I don't think there is any evidence they store call contents Egnever Jul 2017 #11
The Utah Data Center could trivially account for all international communication. joshcryer Jul 2017 #14
Would love to see something that says that Egnever Jul 2017 #27
Search for "Global Information Grid Architecture Vision" joshcryer Jul 2017 #32
Following that link brings you to this Egnever Jul 2017 #35
They're not storing Netflix. joshcryer Jul 2017 #38
Awesome link Egnever Jul 2017 #42
But to be fair all they're doing is US. joshcryer Jul 2017 #44
Ok I would give you it is us only Egnever Jul 2017 #46
it's hard to visualize the proportions of the Utah defacto7 Jul 2017 #39
1.5 million square feet joshcryer Jul 2017 #40
It'll probably be filled up in a couple years. rickford66 Jul 2017 #52
The NSA practice of storing billions of calls has been well documented grantcart Jul 2017 #15
Mind you they are also likely auto transcribing calls to text. joshcryer Jul 2017 #22
There is a big difference between call data and recording Egnever Jul 2017 #33
You started with the premise that you didn't think that NSA was storing many calls grantcart Jul 2017 #43
No that was not my premise at all Egnever Jul 2017 #47
Your exact comment "I don't think there is any evidence they store call contents" grantcart Jul 2017 #48
Right Egnever Jul 2017 #49
I want to believe this but the usatoday article says the practice has been discontinued. n/t pnwmom Jul 2017 #29
The NSA records everything. Everything. joshcryer Jul 2017 #13
It doesn't bother me because I know how hard it is to get a Federal warrant grantcart Jul 2017 #18
I would still like "Ending Secret Laws Act" to pass. joshcryer Jul 2017 #21
I have two clients that full time job is to apply for warrants for DHS grantcart Jul 2017 #25
These traitors have been as subtle as a hammer to the head. DK504 Jul 2017 #6
Federal Prosecutors don't care about time frame. They only care about getting the biggest fish grantcart Jul 2017 #8
Yep. THey want to get all the tentacles on the malignancy. Amaryllis Jul 2017 #17
In baseball terms they never bunt but go for the fences with the bases loaded every time. grantcart Jul 2017 #19
"this is their superbowl" ??? Glad you know that ! So glad u are here. !!! Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2017 #20
somewhere in this story there's a 400-pound hacker unblock Jul 2017 #10
Maybe he was picturing Goldstone grantcart Jul 2017 #16
Central casting? We need a stereotypical mobster, the Sleazier the better. alfredo Jul 2017 #34
He was probably just repeating something that he heard, Chemisse Jul 2017 #50
Kick. dalton99a Jul 2017 #12
Trump has gotten away with all this. Even with all this out in the open..he's clear & free so far. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #23
Trump has pissed off the wrong people OldRedneck Jul 2017 #24
Hope so. SharonClark Jul 2017 #30
It amuses me that these bombshells come out... Barack_America Jul 2017 #31
Good points. He not only pissed off the IC but also the press grantcart Jul 2017 #37
K & R Duppers Jul 2017 #26
One also wonders, when Ms. Veselnitskaya was "detained for hours" at Heathrow... Barack_America Jul 2017 #28
KnR Hekate Jul 2017 #36
Superior post, grantcart!! Great bunch of sharp/knowledgable DU responses, too! Thanks, all!! n/t Leghorn21 Jul 2017 #41
Great post! Blue_Roses Jul 2017 #45
This also puts into context Benedict Donald's bragging to the... Pluvious Jul 2017 #51
Excellent post, grantcart!!! Raster Jul 2017 #53
How about this scenario - Mr.Bill Jul 2017 #54
Great summary time line. And MSNBC has used a LOT of print journalist's work lately, with FailureToCommunicate Jul 2017 #55
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