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pirateshipdude

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32. Seriously? Not one mention the Democratic Party and their efforts. The people, "we" as in his voice

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 10:49 PM

Jul 2017

and the people. Are you seriously stating he made this about the people? He made it about him, the we, the people, doing all the work to stop it and then further implements his we (excluding the Democratic Party, conspicuously) to the people and his movement.

Nah, This does not do it for me. Yes, applaud the people. You betcha and all, that includes the Democratic Leadership being forefront. I am not surprised by this speech. A good speech. I agree with him. But vintage Sanders. Not disappointed in my point of view, consistent.

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i guess we could learn from bernie on messaging.. [View all] drray23 Jul 2017 OP

Sanders is adept at taking credit for something he has not done. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #1

i did not want to put it that way in the spirit of unity drray23 Jul 2017 #2

What? The unity comes from not hording the glory, for sure. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #3

Yes, that's why I'm glad that Al Gore is back in R B Garr Jul 2017 #42

I guess we could say the same with Hillary Clinton and health care. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #44

+1, he is the beneficiary of great press coverage. R B Garr Jul 2017 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author tonedevil Jul 2017 #15

Bernie is a great leader .... May not have seen him in the forefront for a reason Kathy M Jul 2017 #4

He does a lot of the talking. He doesn't do a lot of the work. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #6

Exactly Me. Jul 2017 #7

Correct. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #10

you have your opinion , others have theirs ..... No reason for you or others Kathy M Jul 2017 #16

"does not accomplish anything" you have your opinion , others have theirs pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #26

LOL Kathy M Jul 2017 #28

I hear you. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #33

Criticizing politicians does not accomplish anything, and it leads to marginalization! lapucelle Jul 2017 #100

Same goes for criticizing Democrats. R B Garr Jul 2017 #29

Here's Sanders most recent report card from GovTrack lapucelle Jul 2017 #46

That is an interesting site. I bookmarked so I can use in the future, and check out other pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #47

On the issues.org is another great site for researching candidates. lapucelle Jul 2017 #74

That is a great site! Not a great report card, though. R B Garr Jul 2017 #80

You couldn't be more WRONG! m-lekktor Jul 2017 #17

Nu uh. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #27

Indeed. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #35

Yeah, he's only been all around the country holding healthcare rallies. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2017 #83

Riiiight!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2017 #90

He HOARDED THE GLORY! BERNIE'S A GLORY HOARDER! beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #94

So Bernie actually credited and thanked the people, he didn't "hoard the glory". beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #9

yes he did ...... Kathy M Jul 2017 #13

Thanks for posting video proof of what really happened. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #23

your welcome ..... he has been working nonstop .... Kathy M Jul 2017 #24

Yes he did the complete OPPOSITE of what some in this thread m-lekktor Jul 2017 #18

It's genuinely pathological. n/t QC Jul 2017 #19

It really is. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #20

Cognitive bias. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #22

He did both. bettyellen Jul 2017 #31

That's technically not possible. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #34

I saw a different clip, and yeah he was like if Trump wants to blame me (did that even happen?) then bettyellen Jul 2017 #43

Thank-you BettyEllen. I would like to see that clip. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #45

Link to clip from Melber interview: bettyellen Jul 2017 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #49

That's a still of the same interview where he credits the people. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #50

The operative word would be "all"? Lol. Eom. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #51

I think "hording (sic) the glory, for sure" was the original claim. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #52

I stand by that. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #53

Lol! You do that. I'll stand by the video where he thanked millions of people. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #54

Yes, I think the video confirms exactly what I stated. You disagree. It happens. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #56

It proves the exact opposite. But you can keep claiming otherwise. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #60

Here t is sorry for the delay bettyellen Jul 2017 #58

That's the part where he admits he knew Russia helped his campaign- stunning to see bettyellen Jul 2017 #62

+1. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #63

Oops wrong clip- but they're both pretty interesting! Here's where he takes credit bettyellen Jul 2017 #55

LMAO! He didn't take the credit, he was defending Democrats from Trump's claim. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #59

Democrats were given credit for stopping the bill- and he accepted it on their behalf. Gracious of bettyellen Jul 2017 #64

Yes. Exactly. Eom. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #65

No he didn't, she was talking about Trump's accusations of obstructionism. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #66

You think stopping the healthcare bill was bad? Most voters are happy? Only the GOP think that way! bettyellen Jul 2017 #75

What on earth are you talking about? beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #76

So he wasn't protecting the Dems from anything. Got it. bettyellen Jul 2017 #77

So I never said that, Got it. You're welcome! beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #78

Yes, you are right. The claim is still there in #59. R B Garr Jul 2017 #85

Pretty bizarre claim, but it's not about integrity, never was... bettyellen Jul 2017 #88

Thanks again. I had posted on what was initially there, and thought better of it. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #61

This is an abbreviated clip you posted, earlier in the interview Sanders thanked the millions ... cliffside Jul 2017 #84

I get that people think he should have shared credit, but thanks... bettyellen Jul 2017 #87

First, he thanked the millions of people who came out to oppose the bill, that is not reflected ... cliffside Jul 2017 #92

Exactly. Thank you for correcting the record, it's on the video - he shared the credit. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #91

Yes, he FIRST thanked the millions of people who helped defeat the bill! Watching small snippets ... cliffside Jul 2017 #95

It's almost like they don't want people to see that part for some reason... beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #96

Yes and he did so First! Crazy nt cliffside Jul 2017 #98

The embedded video above is not from an interview. lapucelle Jul 2017 #72

Exactly. Thank-you. That is what I felt, that it was a campaign video. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #73

I'm shocked you're shocked Nanjeanne Jul 2017 #104

He is out campaigning, yes. nt pnwmom Jul 2017 #12

for healthcare for all of us , you can at least acknowledge that or maybe Kathy M Jul 2017 #25

+1,000,000 beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #30

You used the word campaigning. I agreed with you. nt pnwmom Jul 2017 #37

What does "Louise" have to do with anything? R B Garr Jul 2017 #38

Good question, R B Garr! pnwmom Jul 2017 #89

Seriously? Not one mention the Democratic Party and their efforts. The people, "we" as in his voice pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #32

Lulz. He LITERALLY thanks the millions of people who contacted their representatives. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #36

Sanders was holding and speaking at anti ACA repeal/replace rallies across America... Trial_By_Fire Jul 2017 #5

Yep, he was out there every day speaking out against the GOP and rallying people. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author George Eliot Jul 2017 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author George Eliot Jul 2017 #40

+1 Kathy M Jul 2017 #14

Plus 1 more George Eliot Jul 2017 #41

+ 100 nt cliffside Jul 2017 #70

ugh Jersey Devil Jul 2017 #8

There where Japanese soldiers in The Philippines mountains until 1974 Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2017 #81

! beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #82

Kudos to Bernie Lotusflower70 Jul 2017 #57

Yes we could, he's never stopped trying. Here's Bernie in 1993 advocating for single payer hc: beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #67

He's been on message his entire life Lordquinton Jul 2017 #69

Looking forward to the day when Dems support a NHC system for all, thx for the clip! nt cliffside Jul 2017 #71

Hopefully it will be part of the next platform since a majority of Democrats support it. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #79

Unfortunately not the Dems in congress who vote on legislation, not many speak of a NHC ... cliffside Jul 2017 #86

The latest Medicare for All bill had 104 sponsors, that's more than half. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #93

The people are listening, but we need more Dems in Congress on board, no excuses ... cliffside Jul 2017 #97

Yup. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #99

Bernie held rallies all over the country to protect healthcare Fiendish Thingy Jul 2017 #68

Where were the rest of the Dems? Pushing back on TrumpCare in the House and Senate. emulatorloo Jul 2017 #103

This is a Street fight. Not a back room deal fight. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2017 #108

Get yr point. However insinuating Democrats besides Shumer/Bernie are doing nothing isn't correct. emulatorloo Jul 2017 #109

Then he would have won the nomination treestar Jul 2017 #101

Geez! What is the purpose of this thread? SharonClark Jul 2017 #102

Thanks for saying what I was thinking. Curmudgeoness Jul 2017 #110

The success of "messaging" doesn't come from making your supporters happy... brooklynite Jul 2017 #105

Thank you Senator Sanders for helping lead the Resistance. jalan48 Jul 2017 #106

We should have all learned something. MrsCoffee Jul 2017 #107