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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
32. I am PROUD to say that I thought this from election night....and strongly suspected it before.
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 02:58 PM
Jul 2017

I took flack for it, for sure. I was banned from a thread on another forum the night of the election for just NOTICING that the results didn't seem to jive with 12 of the 13 polls, and just asking the question if it's possible that Russia interfered. I am NOT a conspiracy theorist kind of person, and I TOTALLY accept real election results. But something seemed to be not quite right.

It was obvious from the start that the media, the politicians, and most others wanted the American voters to have confidence in the election system. As if not vocalizing questions would make the issues go away.

I remember when my concerns started jelling...it was that that request to Russia from the campaign trail by Trump, "Russia, if you're listening....we need those missing emails found!" Followed a few days later by Wikileaks dumping a lot of stuff against Clinton. I pointed that out, but was ignored. Maybe it's nothing, I thought.

Another time was a speech he gave at a rally in Pennsylvania. Something about it raised a red flag to me. I pointed it out. No one paid attention. I don't blame them, really. It sounded like I was paranoid & wacko.

As a political junkie who has watched more debates and campaign speeches than I could count, who follows national elections compulsively...I was picking up on some weird stuff that led me to think that Russia was helping Trump, that something was wrong. Some things in print don't sound suspicious, but when you hear them, there's something wrong.

I am not happy this turned out to be true. But since it is, I am so glad that others see it, too, now! And it's not just wacky ME, being paranoid and sour grapes. And I'm glad the media finally came to their senses. They were on board from election night with everything being on the up and up, nothing wrong here, Trump won fairly and squarely.

Clinton called him out for being a Russian Puppet, if he wins...remember that? Yeah...it was getting to be obvious at that point. Trump's response was, "No. No Puppet, No Puppet. You're the puppet."

Some are still saying it mcar Jul 2017 #1
Did you see Jill Stein's tweet this morning ? La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2017 #2
It's what I was thinking of mcar Jul 2017 #3
I did--she sounds just like Trump ismnotwasm Jul 2017 #4
Yup La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2017 #6
Someone needs to link to the tweet. Control-Z Jul 2017 #16
Looks like this one in pnwmom's thread: R B Garr Jul 2017 #18
Oh. My. Gods. Hekate Jul 2017 #34
"Dustbin Of History, table for one?" hatrack Jul 2017 #43
Jill has a reservation for a table of ten. lapucelle Jul 2017 #53
God, her fu*kin' 15 minutes of fame was up 14 minutes ago Roy Rolling Jul 2017 #68
The tweet may as well have been written by Bannon. emulatorloo Jul 2017 #7
Yes! And there's a reason they all share the same divisive R B Garr Jul 2017 #11
She's vying for a job...not sure if it's with eltrumpf admin or putdns either one... RestoreAmerica2020 Jul 2017 #70
That tweet is word for word what Chevy Jul 2017 #8
That's because she's up to her neck in it as well. OnDoutside Jul 2017 #13
They probably saw that on Russia Today emulatorloo Jul 2017 #5
The Good Thing About It Is Me. Jul 2017 #9
It wasn't just Stein supporters that it. Hardcore BernieBros did the same rockfordfile Jul 2017 #41
Exactly Me. Jul 2017 #42
Some of the same people NastyRiffraff Jul 2017 #47
Yep. Blue_true Jul 2017 #52
They still are Chevy Jul 2017 #10
Democracy is up against a war on two fronts. yardwork Jul 2017 #12
+1 dalton99a Jul 2017 #15
Yes. You are right on. Thank-you for the post. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #21
+1 betsuni Jul 2017 #48
Um, I haven't heard anyone on the left call it bogus. Nitram Jul 2017 #14
No one on the left eh? L. Coyote Jul 2017 #24
Still litigating the primary, eh? Nitram Jul 2017 #67
I must have missed it. BlueMTexpat Jul 2017 #69
No, just pointing out how wrong your statement is. L. Coyote Jul 2017 #71
Agreed - I never heard a Democrat call the Russian involvement bogus FakeNoose Jul 2017 #28
Post removed Post removed Jul 2017 #39
Those that call the Russia story a distraction or witch hunt cannot be trusted. MrsCoffee Jul 2017 #17
+1 oasis Jul 2017 #26
Precisely! VOX Jul 2017 #63
Whoa, just Googled her twitter feed, and she does sound like Trump in R B Garr Jul 2017 #19
They called themselves extreme left, and THE progressives, but I do not buy that definition pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #20
I suspect that many who claim to be "on the left" really aren't. George II Jul 2017 #22
On the JPR site, it is taken as gospel that the russian story is false Gothmog Jul 2017 #23
And remember how often they'd joke about red baiting or McCarthyism when they were here.... bettyellen Jul 2017 #37
I remember seeing five or six threads on the pizzagate stupidity long after it was debunked Gothmog Jul 2017 #50
The actions and motivations of the Russians are indisputable aikoaiko Jul 2017 #25
I think you mean the "alt-left"... Wounded Bear Jul 2017 #27
We get it. Hell Hath No Fury Jul 2017 #29
Your choice to employ a strawman here is noted. nt stevenleser Jul 2017 #36
Aren't we the left? Don't we have to "sign" something to post on DU, claiming we are left? pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #40
Yes, you have to sign the tos saying you will abide by the rules otherwise you get tossed out.. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2017 #44
You really must learn to see beyond such technicalities. n/t QC Jul 2017 #46
You seem to identify the left with the alt-left. They're NOT the same. pnwmom Jul 2017 #57
I'm certain she won by a lot more than 3 million. C Moon Jul 2017 #30
Not so many. Some, sure. Do you also thank the gods for millions of leftists who stood with Hillary? Tom Rinaldo Jul 2017 #31
I am PROUD to say that I thought this from election night....and strongly suspected it before. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #32
I think we should make a point of never forgetting that part of this debacle Hekate Jul 2017 #33
Woldn't that be far-left and or alt-left. Fla Dem Jul 2017 #35
You are a true liberal not far left. Blue_true Jul 2017 #54
But, but they were Ideologically Pure! Doug the Dem Jul 2017 #38
K&R! betsuni Jul 2017 #45
It can be true AND a distraction Nevernose Jul 2017 #49
Jill Steins lunacy and Gary Johnsons knowledge level Funtatlaguy Jul 2017 #51
The executive branch and the feds took it seriously. lapucelle Jul 2017 #55
I didn't mind Gorby............. but there has NEVER raven mad Jul 2017 #56
We used to, but our government is a great deal more transparent than most, so we cut back. Nitram Jul 2017 #72
I never blame the media. I used to be one. raven mad Jul 2017 #75
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This message was self-deleted by its author betsuni Jul 2017 #59
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This message was self-deleted by its author betsuni Jul 2017 #62
that's what certain types want. not just of this site but the democratic party JI7 Jul 2017 #60
They can huff, they can puff, but they can't blow the Democratic Party down. betsuni Jul 2017 #64
Some are still talking about "why Hillary lost" as Neema Jul 2017 #65
I think your title is over-stated. lark Jul 2017 #66
And a little help from Comey. Nitram Jul 2017 #73
Absolutely. lark Jul 2017 #74
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