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Garrett78

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13. Me, too. I lived in St. Louis from birth until late 2003. It was often said...

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 01:19 AM

Aug 2017

...if you win Missouri, you win the White House.

Bill Clinton won MO pretty handily. Gore lost MO by just a few points in 2000 and Obama lost MO by just a hair in 2008. But it seems the tide turned by 2012 (I suppose 4 years of Obama had the bigots pretty damn motivated).

2016 was an absolute blowout. Still, I'm not quite ready to completely write off Missouri, Ohio or Iowa (especially not the latter 2). After all, Obama and McCain essentially tied in Missouri just 8 years ago. But if the results in those 3 states are similar (or worse) in 2020, they'll likely be lost causes for the foreseeable future. Hopefully Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida and North Carolina aren't lost causes, as well.

On the bright side, it would seem 3 'red' states (Arizona, Georgia and Texas) are now in play.

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What the hell happened to Missouri? [View all] Proud liberal 80 Aug 2017 OP

Harry Truman would die all over again. madaboutharry Aug 2017 #1

It's not much of a swing state. JI7 Aug 2017 #2

I remember D_Master81 Aug 2017 #3

Me, too. I lived in St. Louis from birth until late 2003. It was often said... Garrett78 Aug 2017 #13

It is still a bellwether state - the US is racist. AngryAmish Aug 2017 #20

Religion edhopper Aug 2017 #4

That and the rise of Paramilitary Groups Wellstone ruled Aug 2017 #5

Whites are still nearly 80% of the vote in Missouri Awsi Dooger Aug 2017 #6

Man, Glamrock Aug 2017 #8

I am surprised by how many tRump Wawannabe Aug 2017 #10

usually down the road from porn shacks pstokely Aug 2017 #14

Why are white women voting in those %'s for republicans?! Just ... wtf?! uponit7771 Aug 2017 #18

Unions used to be strong in Missouri too cojoel Aug 2017 #7

That is a big factor. Willie Pep Aug 2017 #15

I live here and I never see the stuff leftyladyfrommo Aug 2017 #9

I'd bet my bank acct that it is more Wawannabe Aug 2017 #11

I don"t know. I just know I don't see it here. leftyladyfrommo Aug 2017 #16

I live SW of St. Louis. I grew up in the city and county. logosoco Aug 2017 #21

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there are a lot of reasons. Scruffy1 Aug 2017 #22

Lincoln is rolling in his grave. MrsCoffee Aug 2017 #23