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Weekend Warrior

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83. "Isn't without its criticism."

Sat Aug 19, 2017, 06:21 PM

Aug 2017

I simply think we have an endless supply of criticism for domestic abusers, the grab them by the pussy crew, the religious ownership society, unequal pay, cat calling, stereotyping, sexist jokes, slut and fat shaming, attacking feminists, double standards, penalties for childbirth, etc.

I'm cool with Beyonce's feminism. I'm not ok with societal sexism.

Things a bit slow?

https://reportingsandiego.com/2016/07/28/everything-on-the-internet-is-free-until-it-is-not-and-independent-media/

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The Thing About Beyonce's Feminism [View all] OBenario4 Aug 2017 OP

Interesting... can we name any rock bands we expected the same from? No, but we demand she be every bettyellen Aug 2017 #1

Problem is selling... OBenario4 Aug 2017 #3

And who appointed you arbiter leftynyc Aug 2017 #12

Who said I was appointed as "arbiter"? OBenario4 Aug 2017 #17

How about treating them leftynyc Aug 2017 #48

Stop pretending she's been oppressed by these threads. OBenario4 Aug 2017 #60

Why are you shoving words leftynyc Aug 2017 #100

You do not get to dictate how people express their sexuality. emulatorloo Aug 2017 #13

Nobody is obliged to like Beyonce's stance on feminism. Deal with it. n/t OBenario4 Aug 2017 #16

non sequitur and strawman. You do not get to dictate how people express their sexuality emulatorloo Aug 2017 #21

You don't get to dictate what I'm allowed to discuss or not, honey. Sorry. n/t OBenario4 Aug 2017 #23

Discuss whatever you want. Just don't be surprised or act like a "victim" when you get pushback emulatorloo Aug 2017 #25

As long as they focus on the arguments and not personal attacks on the messengers, ok. n/t OBenario4 Aug 2017 #33

Ah yes you poor poor poor victim emulatorloo Aug 2017 #40

Oh please, men have sang about no much but getting drunk high and fucking bettyellen Aug 2017 #65

This Is Just Because SHE Bought A 95 MIllion Dollar House Me. Aug 2017 #52

Nice, a gatekeeper to tell us which women aren't true feminists(tm) emulatorloo Aug 2017 #2

It's a forum. And this is a piece of opinion which I agree with. OBenario4 Aug 2017 #4

I just contested it. And said pretty much all that needs to be said. emulatorloo Aug 2017 #8

Oh, sorry. Thought you were just trying to disqualify criticism by attacking the person... OBenario4 Aug 2017 #11

Who said Beyonc is a goddess above good and evil? Nobody. emulatorloo Aug 2017 #19

It's what looks like when you get all offended... OBenario4 Aug 2017 #20

My replies to you are not about Beyonc. They are about you attempting to dictate to feminists emulatorloo Aug 2017 #24

Don't remember "dictating" anything to anyone. OBenario4 Aug 2017 #27

Nah, i'm sensitive to folk who think they have the moral authority to judge other people's feminism emulatorloo Aug 2017 #39

Amen... Skidmore Aug 2017 #85

+1 for the strawman comment. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #86

It is a liberal forum, not Mansplaining Underground obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #30

I would have to be a man for this to be "mansplaining", dear. n/t OBenario4 Aug 2017 #35

Again with the Beyonce criticism? mcar Aug 2017 #5

Yep. OBenario4 Aug 2017 #6

Yeah you're pretty obvious emulatorloo Aug 2017 #9

and you had to use a really old article too... Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #51

It is a 4 year old article. sheshe2 Aug 2017 #54

Yes, the recent discussion involving her happened yesterday, not 4 years ago. OBenario4 Aug 2017 #55

Aaaah. sheshe2 Aug 2017 #62

"Involving" not envolving. bettyellen Aug 2017 #70

Thanks. Corrected. Hope you don't hang out with those nice "speak English" type of people... OBenario4 Aug 2017 #73

We can always hope for the latter. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #87

From a 2013 article no less. SaschaHM Aug 2017 #7

I don't see any problem with that. n/t OBenario4 Aug 2017 #10

It makes about as much sense as last week's Thom Hartmann adulation. lapucelle Aug 2017 #15

You noticed too, eh? Good to see that I'm not the ONLY one who's suspicious. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #28

I Bow To Your Greater Wisdom Me. Aug 2017 #74

With wisdom comes... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #89

It is so obvious obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #31

Hartmann, GOOD! Beyonce, BAD! lapucelle Aug 2017 #42

fuck trump... stonecutter357 Aug 2017 #14

We are only supposed to focus on Trump when folks criticize Bill Maher for using the N word. SaschaHM Aug 2017 #18

You know that we can discuss both media's aristocracism and Trump at the same time, right? OBenario4 Aug 2017 #22

"aristocracism"? lapucelle Aug 2017 #49

But that's the context, indeed. OBenario4 Aug 2017 #63

Your dubious source is misusing the word "aristocrat". lapucelle Aug 2017 #93

. stonecutter357 Aug 2017 #72

I am really done with your attacks on Beyonce and her success obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #26

I'm a woman. n/t OBenario4 Aug 2017 #29

lulz obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #32

I've imagined that would be everything you'd have to say. OBenario4 Aug 2017 #34

lulz obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #36

Really. Grow up. n/t OBenario4 Aug 2017 #37

You REALLY need to work on your act better obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #38

So now you are telling ME that I'm not a woman? Wow. OBenario4 Aug 2017 #41

Hartmann, GOOD! Beyonce, Harris, Booker, Patrick, ALL BAD! lapucelle Aug 2017 #43

+1 emulatorloo Aug 2017 #95

One of these things... lapucelle Aug 2017 #97

IMHO this persona is way OTT on the "I'm leftier than thou" personality trait emulatorloo Aug 2017 #98

This article is from 2013 oberliner Aug 2017 #44

Because the OP has spent the last 24 hours posting about Beyonce obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #69

"Not feminist enough" is so 2010 blogslut Aug 2017 #45

Dude, WTF ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #46

your OP seems so familiar are you from California ? stonecutter357 Aug 2017 #47

welcome to Du... Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #50

Another anti Beyonce thread, first, her new house is too big.... Bladewire Aug 2017 #53

Yes, quite weird when someone brings a subject to attention and other people end up bringing... OBenario4 Aug 2017 #56

We have so far more than 50 replies... OBenario4 Aug 2017 #57

No ones taking you seriously, there's no reason to. We're just watching the shit being stirred. bettyellen Aug 2017 #66

Ok. Doesn't change the fact that the response has been childish and irrational. n/t OBenario4 Aug 2017 #67

You're quite deliberately insulting the majority of DUers. LOL we see you! bettyellen Aug 2017 #68

Ownt. OBenario4 Aug 2017 #71

Yay! The "Poor Me I'm Just a Poor Victim" card again emulatorloo Aug 2017 #96

And strawman arguments. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #90

Everyone's a critic Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #58

I'll bookmark this so I can read it after Trump is out of the White House Miles Archer Aug 2017 #59

. ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #61

Okay... Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #64

wondering about the reaction bigtree Aug 2017 #75

I think it's also a bizarre expectation you'll never see put on white male artists- bettyellen Aug 2017 #77

"we must work to dismantle our oppression as well" Bladewire Aug 2017 #76

Nobody said she was. Read the text. n/t OBenario4 Aug 2017 #78

I did read the text Bladewire Aug 2017 #79

No, I just agree with it. OBenario4 Aug 2017 #82

☝️righton 👍 Bladewire Aug 2017 #84

Beyonce is a Capitalist more than anything else. Yavin4 Aug 2017 #80

Thank you. OBenario4 Aug 2017 #81

"Isn't without its criticism." Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #83

I'm defending Beyonce and I'm not a huge fan of hers and never bought anything she sells JI7 Aug 2017 #88

Big part of it. Right here. Nt Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #91

Me too. I cannot name a single song by her. Adrahil Aug 2017 #92

cuz trolls. mopinko Aug 2017 #94

Yep. My post above emulatorloo Aug 2017 #99

Deliberate shit stirring against women and POC- who vote Dem reliably- but that's not enough. bettyellen Aug 2017 #101

So Beyonce does a version of Madonna's "Material Girl" and gets slammed for it? Wounded Bear Aug 2017 #102