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sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
8. Try "Did you see what Fox said today?" [i.e. "Fox lied today, did you see that?"]
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 01:17 PM
Sep 2017

"Fox ignored that the president has said before he would donate money, then he doesn't do it. And Fox said the president would donate $1M to Harvey without saying how many times Trump had lied about this before."

This HAS worked for me. When you point out that Fox lies, Trumpkins will react aggressively. But there's a 50/50 chance they'll come back to me in two weeks with much-watered-down views. It's like a cult, and you have to break the information lock before you change people's minds.

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https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2017/09/01/ignoring-trumps-record-not-delivering-donations-fox-friends-gushes-over-reported-harvey-donation/217823

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/2016-election/trump-charity-donations/
"Searching for evidence of Trump’s personal giving
The Washington Post has contacted more than 400 charities with some ties to the GOP nominee in an effort to find proof of the millions he has said he donated to them. We’ve mostly been unsuccessful."



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/09/16/trump-said-hed-give-away-5-million-or-maybe-50-million-for-proof-obama-was-born-in-the-u-s-will-he-pay-it/?utm_term=.9f9506aefe10
In 2012, Trump said he'd donate $5 million for that proof.

"Now then, what wasn’t reported by the press is, sometime just prior to the expiration date of that offer, I raised the offer to $50 million. $50 million! For charity,' Trump said in 2014. "Pick your charity, for $50 million, and let me see your records! And I never heard from him."

On Friday, Trump said he'd been convinced of Obama's birthplace at last. At an event at his hotel in downtown Washington, Trump gave a brief statement, affirming that President Obama had been born in the U.S.

[Trump admits Obama was born in U.S., but falsely blames Clinton for starting rumors]

Trump then quickly left the podium, and the room, without taking any questions.
So Trump must have seen the proof he wanted.
Now, will he donate the money?

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You tried. Glimmer of Hope Sep 2017 #1
Give up. You're not going to penetrate the cement clogging his head Warpy Sep 2017 #2
Stop him from watching Fox and he'll come around sharedvalues Sep 2017 #11
It is "Programming" of the individual. Dustlawyer Sep 2017 #21
NO, If we give up they win. Most people can see the error of their ways if you talk sense Maraya1969 Sep 2017 #22
Good luck. Warpy Sep 2017 #23
Go after Fox, not Trump, with him if you want to bring him back. sharedvalues Sep 2017 #25
I have had luck. Some won't change but others, when shown the actual facts from Maraya1969 Sep 2017 #48
OT lebkr Sep 2017 #45
I am sorry to say that even when it happens to them sometimes they don't get it. KentuckyWoman Sep 2017 #40
Here's why you'll never get anywhere with someone like that DFW Sep 2017 #3
From one of my favorite movies, "The American President." CrispyQ Sep 2017 #4
"My name is Andrew Shepherd and I AM the President" DFW Sep 2017 #5
I realize in the story Shepherd was married when first elected, CrispyQ Sep 2017 #7
We practically just did DFW Sep 2017 #10
I think Lindsey is gay. Ligyron Sep 2017 #47
Hoo boy - I can relate FakeNoose Sep 2017 #6
Try "Did you see what Fox said today?" [i.e. "Fox lied today, did you see that?"] sharedvalues Sep 2017 #8
Their critical thinking skills are gone mtngirl47 Sep 2017 #9
You are absolutely right - They were never taught to think bitterross Sep 2017 #17
He only cares about Hurricane Harvey and Houston because tDump. SammyWinstonJack Sep 2017 #12
Fuck him. nt TeamPooka Sep 2017 #13
I bet he does not donate to help either Skittles Sep 2017 #14
And point out not fooled Sep 2017 #15
he'll be pissed of at the people in a week for needing the government help lunatica Sep 2017 #16
"not the same" is an excuse they're close enough and that's horrible. uponit7771 Sep 2017 #18
You were lucky. sandensea Sep 2017 #19
The wall was built a long time ago ornotna Sep 2017 #20
good words! nt yonder Sep 2017 #29
Stop it in its tracks - fast. KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2017 #24
That and "That's not true" RhodeIslandOne Sep 2017 #33
Reminds me of... KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2017 #35
No, you voiced your point of view very well. I understand just fine. I simply don't agree.... KentuckyWoman Sep 2017 #41
You're right, it's not OK. KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2017 #43
It may be you planted a seed. PatrickforO Sep 2017 #26
You just can't fix stupid and / or propagandized. paleotn Sep 2017 #27
Not surprised Lotusflower70 Sep 2017 #28
Sorry, but it doesn't sound like you accomplished anything. Hortensis Sep 2017 #30
People assume that the poor "don't take care of themselves." Willie Pep Sep 2017 #31
I would've pointed out that Trump's new budget CUTS FEMA by $600 Million. He's lying again... Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #32
"You just don't understand"..... RhodeIslandOne Sep 2017 #34
You have a strategy here... politicat Sep 2017 #36
And not ONE WORD penetrated his pea brain. Hulk Sep 2017 #37
If this was happening in San Francisco.. Hulk Sep 2017 #38
They already know their platform is arbitrarily cruel, corrupt, and moronic. They don't care at all. beachjustice Sep 2017 #39
Don't give up. zentrum Sep 2017 #42
Tell him how Trump wanted to cut funding to the Coast Guard and FEMA CakeGrrl Sep 2017 #44
Well, it was a very good effort on your part. smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #46
They won't ever care unless it happens to THEM or THEIR'S Texin Sep 2017 #49
Well done. reflection Sep 2017 #50
He'll learn the difference when DeminPennswoods Sep 2017 #51
i've had a few similar discussions with a rw free market radio blowhard who certainot Sep 2017 #52
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