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39. If all it takes is the election of an odious pig like Donald Trump to break a person's attachment

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Sun Sep 3, 2017, 11:59 AM

Sep 2017

to reason and problem-solving, and finding consensuses, then a reasonable third person might wonder how deep the affinity was to these principles in the first place?

And what the alternative? A world-view based on irrationality, opposition to problem-solving, and division?

All I can say is this liberal DEMOCRAT is holding firm to the values of our party. Donald Trump won't break my world-view. No way. My values are stronger than that.

Nor will I be drawn to the toxic alternative of embracing political irrationality.

Tough times test what people are made of.

Have courage good-people, the loss of hope isn't the way forward.

Stay strong in the face of nihilism and self-defeatism. We need all energies to resist Donald J Trump.

Time to get busy and elect DEMOCRATS!

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Trump has changed my world view in a profound way. [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 OP

Well said!!! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2017 #1

My history professor remarked its actually frightening to think that anyone could become president. olegramps Sep 2017 #31

Thank you for your astute summary! I am concerned about the rise of an authoritarian RKP5637 Sep 2017 #57

He has also taught me that the Constitution is a piece of paper. Dave Starsky Sep 2017 #2

We still have a semblance of checks and balances DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #3

His own party Scarsdale Sep 2017 #29

They're just getting started. Dave Starsky Sep 2017 #30

Even SCOTUS is not immune from political pressure. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #34

You take a chance with the populace electing a powerful leader rock Sep 2017 #4

I thought the Electoral College was supposed to be a brake on electing a lunatic. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #5

True rock Sep 2017 #17

We are a republic or a representative democracy. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #18

But all of these Electors come from individual states. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #55

He has destroyed my faith in all that is decent in this world. smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #6

Destroyed? Well, maybe except for... KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2017 #15

Excellent point. smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #16

Yes! KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2017 #21

Nothing short of a complete revolution can undo this clusterfuck. smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #23

Republicans -- at least over the last 30 years -- luvtheGWN Sep 2017 #25

They are not in politics to be Politicians, snort Sep 2017 #43

Truly well said!!! onecent Sep 2017 #7

That makes a lot of sense, but I learned in the Civil War, if you can't avoid fighting your brother Not Ruth Sep 2017 #8

I've lost all faith jimmil Sep 2017 #9

I totally agree with your brilliant point, unfortunately. (N/t) bronxiteforever Sep 2017 #10

Bill Maher said he has taught us a great lesson. ProgressiveValue Sep 2017 #11

Opened my eyes to my naivety... N_E_1 for Tennis Sep 2017 #12

Do not expect Scarsdale Sep 2017 #32

NO! No, no, no! You can't lose faith! Yes. We are in a terrible time. Yes, Squinch Sep 2017 #13

You're speaking my language. Thank you. nocalflea Sep 2017 #22

Prior to the advent of Trump... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #27

Exactly. Scarsdale Sep 2017 #37

But what we have to learn is that this is not what it means at all to be an American. Squinch Sep 2017 #48

The core problem is - RandomAccess Sep 2017 #14

The gop showed their intentions Scarsdale Sep 2017 #38

Did you intend this for another thread? RandomAccess Sep 2017 #40

Just one example Scarsdale Sep 2017 #50

Call me pollyanna. nocalflea Sep 2017 #19

My belief in America died with the election kairos12 Sep 2017 #20

I am also profoundly saddened by BlueMTexpat Sep 2017 #24

Well said. Same here. paleotn Sep 2017 #26

me too, I'm a bit jealous of countries with mentally stable Leaders & now understand how Ivan the Sunlei Sep 2017 #28

It is astounding how Scarsdale Sep 2017 #41

Republicans love Their Leader who rules by fear. FU Republican party! Sunlei Sep 2017 #44

Yep, very disappointed in my fellow Americans. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #33

Rethugs are hell bent on laissez faire capitalism njhoneybadger Sep 2017 #35

He who will not be named, the Republican establishment, paleotn Sep 2017 #36

If all it takes is the election of an odious pig like Donald Trump to break a person's attachment Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #39

I am glad that you agree with me that Trump is an "odious pig." DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #42

Your thinly veiled attack on Dianne Feinstein (repeated for the umteenth time) is based... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #46

How did my heartfelt thread turn into a discussion of the senior senator from the Golden State? DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #47

Due to the (how many is is now?) threads you've started in the past few days... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #49

It is really sad you are using this forum to besmirch my reputation. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #58

No one is respossible for your reputation other than yourself. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #59

My reputation is intact. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #60

If you feel that way, why the protests? Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #62

I feel like I am in some parallel universe. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #64

I'd suggest you explore why you feel that way. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #66

I suggest you look to all ... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #67

Personally, I don't consider "Recs" when approaching issues of morality... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #68

I try my DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #70

You really do live in a parallel universe. LOL. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #71

Perhaps DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #73

I think advocating for reason, problem-solving, and consensus... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #74

Round and round and round we go. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #75

Since you stated in your OP that Donald Trump has... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #77

I think the OP was expressing that many of us feel from time to time Bradshaw3 Sep 2017 #78

No, to the contrary... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #79

I totally agree Bradshaw3 Sep 2017 #80

I applaud your efforts and am endeavoring to chart the same course. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #81

... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #82

For starters Scarsdale Sep 2017 #45

Seems like rational problem-solving at its best! Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #52

Sadly, me too. cilla4progress Sep 2017 #51

This great American experiment Erda Sep 2017 #53

so you saw a lot of consensus building from 2010 to 2016? hfojvt Sep 2017 #54

My friend. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #63

that sounds like hyperbole to me hfojvt Sep 2017 #76

Nine percent of Americans say neo-Nazi or white supremacist views are acceptable: survey DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #84

Do you think that saying a view is "acceptable" hfojvt Sep 2017 #85

Holding Neo-Nazis and white supremacist views are unacceptable. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #86

you've been telling me you're a genius since you were 17 hfojvt Sep 2017 #87

A person is free to believe whatever he or she wants. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #88

I don't see how those two statements reconcile hfojvt Sep 2017 #89

Not me ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #56

he showed me that our electorate is more fickle and our institutions more fragile than i'd believed 0rganism Sep 2017 #61

Reasoning it what is used when things don't work as they normally do nolabels Sep 2017 #65

but they have all the guns. IAMSPARTICUS Sep 2017 #69

Great post DSB. You have explained so well what I feel lunamagica Sep 2017 #72

My postscript as well. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #83