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thesquanderer

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13. I don't see the lie.

Sun Sep 3, 2017, 04:31 PM

Sep 2017

Not that I care about Jill Stein, but where's the lie?

The way it reads to me, saying "there was no translator at the dinner" doesn't mean that there was nobody in the room who was bilingual or had ever been a translator. It means that nobody was serving in an official translator capacity for the event, meaning that nobody was translating Putin's 15 minutes speech, meaning she had no idea what he said.

Am I missing something?

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Jill Stein lies through her teeth about her Putin dinner in Moscow. [View all] pnwmom Sep 2017 OP

"Clearly" the photo was doctored. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #1

Are you fucking serious? Unbelievable. Fucking unbelievable. nt Blue_true Sep 2017 #9

He's being sarcastic. BainsBane Sep 2017 #21

Seems to me that more and more often people here are missing obvious sarcasm. pangaia Sep 2017 #28

I think people are on edge BainsBane Sep 2017 #33

I was being sarcastic. DU needs a dedicated sarcasm font. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #49

Sorry. DU does have a sarcasm smilie but you need to go to the second page of smilies. Blue_true Sep 2017 #52

Nothing to apologize for. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #53

You should put the "sarcasm" smilie in your posts when sarcastic. So people know for sure.nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #29

I agree. Or I should put in a sarcasm alert. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #51

Funny enough Peskov directed the hacking operation Bradshaw3 Sep 2017 #2

I expect nothing more than Progressive dog Sep 2017 #3

Jill Stein is a liar and a fraud. Her campaign was promoted by the Russian oligarchs R B Garr Sep 2017 #4

It was all a concentrated plot to destroy Hillary. Initech Sep 2017 #5

Desperate lies from Jill Stein. She must be worried. yardwork Sep 2017 #6

How Low Can She Go? Me. Sep 2017 #7

Methinks she is in trouble mcar Sep 2017 #8

I hope that she ends up in prison for the rest of her life. Blue_true Sep 2017 #14

I hope her associations plague her until she's out of U.S. politics completely. What a charlatan. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2017 #10

Here's another angle of that table. Apparently they're all looking at someone speaking.... George II Sep 2017 #11

ooh, that is very interesting, and it supports Stein's reticence and outright refusal R B Garr Sep 2017 #15

But it does support her stmt a German diplomat was sitting next to her leftstreet Sep 2017 #36

There's Jill next to the Putin apologist, lapucelle Sep 2017 #72

"turcologist"? lastlib Sep 2017 #12

Had to look that one up myself. Ligyron Sep 2017 #43

I don't see the lie. thesquanderer Sep 2017 #13

The man to her left is not German, he's Dmitry Peskov, Putin's top aide. n/t pnwmom Sep 2017 #16

Willie Wimmer doesn't show in that photo leftstreet Sep 2017 #26

So if Wimmer is to her right and the event had no translator... thesquanderer Sep 2017 #38

They appear to be wearing earpieces oberliner Sep 2017 #47

It's in bold in the OP. She said she was talking to a German diplomat, but it was a Russian R B Garr Sep 2017 #17

Which one is the German Diplomat? mockmonkey Sep 2017 #19

I hope Mueller gets to the bottom of this BainsBane Sep 2017 #24

Willie Wimmer. He's actually to her right leftstreet Sep 2017 #25

re: "I don't know why she says he's to her left " thesquanderer Sep 2017 #34

Oh, you're right leftstreet Sep 2017 #35

(she doesn't know her right hand from her left hand from her large arse.) lastlib Sep 2017 #45

"large arse" in a thread about a woman may get you accused of misogyny (nt) thesquanderer Sep 2017 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author m-lekktor Sep 2017 #71

Did Mother Jones... mockmonkey Sep 2017 #44

Maybe they had Musical Chairs that night mockmonkey Sep 2017 #46

That is a reasonable question oberliner Sep 2017 #48

I think the original credit remains even if someone else then crops it. (n/t) thesquanderer Sep 2017 #67

NBC News published the photo with the same cropping a month prior to the Mother Jones piece oberliner Sep 2017 #68

And their version was terribly cropped, it cuts out half the people's names. thesquanderer Sep 2017 #69

Willy Wimmer is very much pro-Putin oberliner Sep 2017 #70

There is no question that there are cropped and uncropped versions of the pic, thesquanderer Sep 2017 #73

I have no idea leftstreet Sep 2017 #50

The cropped version is actually more flattering lapucelle Sep 2017 #59

!! You're right leftstreet Sep 2017 #60

I wasn't referring to her outfit. lapucelle Sep 2017 #63

Ah leftstreet Sep 2017 #64

Jill Stein is a tool of the right wing. nt SunSeeker Sep 2017 #18

I wondered why...? kentuck Sep 2017 #20

And ran very expensive ads right before the election BainsBane Sep 2017 #23

She got a chunk from our taxes, when we check off that little box. pnwmom Sep 2017 #27

That's no where near enough BainsBane Sep 2017 #31

Susan Sarandon and other celebrities? And matching govt funds? Just guessing. nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #30

We should look at her FEC filings. BainsBane Sep 2017 #32

Lying is yet another trait she shares with Trump BainsBane Sep 2017 #22

That whole interview says so much about Jill Stein oberliner Sep 2017 #37

She's crazy as loon, but she's not lying about the German diplomat leftstreet Sep 2017 #39

She says she is not convinced that the Russians planted fake news stories oberliner Sep 2017 #40

I think she has some delusions leftstreet Sep 2017 #42

Willy Wimmer has had no diplomatic mission since 2000 lapucelle Sep 2017 #57

Yep, true. But he was sitting next to her leftstreet Sep 2017 #58

Interesting that she did. I wonder why. N/T lapucelle Sep 2017 #61

Hmm leftstreet Sep 2017 #62

The "German diplomat" in question is a Putin apologist oberliner Sep 2017 #41

Just a harmless German "diplomat". lapucelle Sep 2017 #54

Very interesting, lapucelle! It sure confirms that only anti-USA types were invited, and R B Garr Sep 2017 #55

This explains a lot. Thanks, oberliner! I also found this: pnwmom Sep 2017 #56

As Malcom Nance has repeatedly pointed out, Russian motives and actions are multi-layered... Hekate Sep 2017 #65