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In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders Discussing Immigration Work Authorization Programs With Lou Dobbs [View all]beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)9. He never opposed allowing immigrants to work. The SPLC likened Bush's bill to slavery.
Close to Slavery: Guestworker Programs in the United States
This report, updated in February 2013, details the systematic exploitation of foreign workers who come to this country for temporary jobs under the nation's H-2 guestworker program. Based on dozens of legal cases immigration and interviews with thousands of guestworkers, it documents how guestworkers are routinely cheated out of wages, forced to mortgage their futures to obtain low-wage, temporary jobs, and held virtually captive by employers.
In the debate over comprehensive immigration reform, various policymakers and business groups have suggested that Congress create a new or expanded guestworker program to ensure a steady supply of foreign workers for industries that rely on an abundance of cheap labor.
Congress should look before it leaps. The current H-2 program, which provides temporary farmworkers and non-farm laborers for a variety of U.S. industries, is rife with labor and human rights violations committed by employers who prey on a highly vulnerable workforce. It harms the interests of U.S. workers, as well, by undercutting wages and working conditions for those who labor at the lowest rungs of the economic ladder. This program should not be expanded or used as a model for immigration reform.
https://www.splcenter.org/20130218/close-slavery-guestworker-programs-united-states
This report, updated in February 2013, details the systematic exploitation of foreign workers who come to this country for temporary jobs under the nation's H-2 guestworker program. Based on dozens of legal cases immigration and interviews with thousands of guestworkers, it documents how guestworkers are routinely cheated out of wages, forced to mortgage their futures to obtain low-wage, temporary jobs, and held virtually captive by employers.
In the debate over comprehensive immigration reform, various policymakers and business groups have suggested that Congress create a new or expanded guestworker program to ensure a steady supply of foreign workers for industries that rely on an abundance of cheap labor.
Congress should look before it leaps. The current H-2 program, which provides temporary farmworkers and non-farm laborers for a variety of U.S. industries, is rife with labor and human rights violations committed by employers who prey on a highly vulnerable workforce. It harms the interests of U.S. workers, as well, by undercutting wages and working conditions for those who labor at the lowest rungs of the economic ladder. This program should not be expanded or used as a model for immigration reform.
https://www.splcenter.org/20130218/close-slavery-guestworker-programs-united-states
Bernie's reason for opposing the bill:
I voted against that piece of legislation (the 2007 immigration reform bill) because it had guest-worker provisions in it which the Southern Poverty Law Center talked about being semi-slavery. Guest workers are coming in, they're working under terrible conditions, but if they stand up for their rights, they're thrown out of the country. I was not the only progressive to vote against that legislation for that reason.
So he was actually opposing a permanent underclass.
It was also opposed by immigrant groups:
Bush Immigration Proposal Falls Short President's plan fails to outline a comprehensive bill that is workable, fair and just
Washington, DC -- The League of United Latin American Citizens urges President Bush to work with the bipartisan coalition of House and Senate leaders who have introduced comprehensive immigration reform legislation that is workable and honors our country's tradition as a nation of immigrants.
As currently worded, President Bush's plan would unnecessarily split families and create a permanent underclass of temporary workers with no prospects of fully participating in U.S. society. Under the President's proposal fines and fees for regularizing one's status would grow to well over $20,000 per person making it unlikely that low income workers would ever be able to become permanent legal residents.
The American people support reasonable immigration reform that would provide a realistic pathway for hardworking immigrants to become permanent legal residents provided they undergo a background check, pay a fine, pay back taxes, learn English and obey the law. Americans also want to encourage future immigrant workers to come in legally and to help reunite families waiting for a visa for their loved ones.
"We commend the President for reaffirming his support of comprehensive immigration reform in Yuma, Arizona today," said LULAC National President Rosa Rosales. "Unfortunately, the President's proposal falls short of his commitment to providing a realistic pathway for hard working immigrants to have a shot at the American Dream."
Under the President's proposal, whole visa categories for close family members are eliminated. The proposal creates new Y and Z visa categories requiring applicants to pay fines from $3,500 every three years in order to work and $10,000 to apply for permanent status. These new categories expressly forbid family members to accompany any Z or Y visa holder. In addition, visa holders who choose to apply for permanent status at any time would have to return to their country of origin and get in back of the line regardless of the number of years they have worked legally or the thousands paid in fines.
LULAC does agree with President Bush that comprehensive immigration reform should be passed this year and we encourage him to keep pushing Congress to send a bill to him this year. The League of United Latin American Citizens, the oldest and largest Hispanic membership organization in the country, advances the economic conditions, educational attainment, political influence, health and civil rights of Hispanic Americans through community-based programs operating at more than 700 LULAC councils nationwide.
Local contact -Domingo Garcia 214-941-XXXX
http://www.dallasobserver.com/news/you-know-who-likes-the-presidents-immigration-reform-plan-nobody-thats-who-7141760
Washington, DC -- The League of United Latin American Citizens urges President Bush to work with the bipartisan coalition of House and Senate leaders who have introduced comprehensive immigration reform legislation that is workable and honors our country's tradition as a nation of immigrants.
As currently worded, President Bush's plan would unnecessarily split families and create a permanent underclass of temporary workers with no prospects of fully participating in U.S. society. Under the President's proposal fines and fees for regularizing one's status would grow to well over $20,000 per person making it unlikely that low income workers would ever be able to become permanent legal residents.
The American people support reasonable immigration reform that would provide a realistic pathway for hardworking immigrants to become permanent legal residents provided they undergo a background check, pay a fine, pay back taxes, learn English and obey the law. Americans also want to encourage future immigrant workers to come in legally and to help reunite families waiting for a visa for their loved ones.
"We commend the President for reaffirming his support of comprehensive immigration reform in Yuma, Arizona today," said LULAC National President Rosa Rosales. "Unfortunately, the President's proposal falls short of his commitment to providing a realistic pathway for hard working immigrants to have a shot at the American Dream."
Under the President's proposal, whole visa categories for close family members are eliminated. The proposal creates new Y and Z visa categories requiring applicants to pay fines from $3,500 every three years in order to work and $10,000 to apply for permanent status. These new categories expressly forbid family members to accompany any Z or Y visa holder. In addition, visa holders who choose to apply for permanent status at any time would have to return to their country of origin and get in back of the line regardless of the number of years they have worked legally or the thousands paid in fines.
LULAC does agree with President Bush that comprehensive immigration reform should be passed this year and we encourage him to keep pushing Congress to send a bill to him this year. The League of United Latin American Citizens, the oldest and largest Hispanic membership organization in the country, advances the economic conditions, educational attainment, political influence, health and civil rights of Hispanic Americans through community-based programs operating at more than 700 LULAC councils nationwide.
Local contact -Domingo Garcia 214-941-XXXX
http://www.dallasobserver.com/news/you-know-who-likes-the-presidents-immigration-reform-plan-nobody-thats-who-7141760
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Bernie Sanders Discussing Immigration Work Authorization Programs With Lou Dobbs [View all]
TomCADem
Sep 2017
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This Just Shows That Even Democrats and "Progressives" Will Attack Immigrants...
TomCADem
Sep 2017
#7
He never opposed allowing immigrants to work. The SPLC likened Bush's bill to slavery.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2017
#9
It is the same anti-immigration positions, but dressed up in populist rhetoric...
TomCADem
Sep 2017
#49
I remember that. Sanders and Dobbs were like two peas in a pod. agreeing with everything.
lunamagica
Sep 2017
#3
Because Bush's bill treated workers like slaves. I already covered that, George.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2017
#12
Is that an objective interpretation? I'm the "SON of an immigrant" myself. It was a good bill.
George II
Sep 2017
#13
So. Ted Kennedy was for treating immigrants as slaves? Who would have thought
lunamagica
Sep 2017
#27
Not only that, he claimed that immigrant workers would result in lower wages for Americans...
George II
Sep 2017
#45
Could be, since he looks to stick with his scripted lines about the middle class, American
R B Garr
Sep 2017
#47
Yikes, they do use the same rhetoric. This has been a great thread. Very illuminating, and
R B Garr
Sep 2017
#51
Doesn't Putting Millions In Fear of Deportation Create a Permanent Underclass?
TomCADem
Sep 2017
#46
"I read something today that a lot of people coming into this country are coming in as lifeguards."
SunSeeker
Sep 2017
#16
I worked with lifeguards up and down the CA coast. They were not J1 visa holders.
SunSeeker
Sep 2017
#26
Working night shift at a Hershey packing plant for less than minimum wage.
Hassin Bin Sober
Sep 2017
#39
The challenge is we must never ever even give the appearance of giving succor to our enemies...
DemocratSinceBirth
Sep 2017
#32