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canetoad

(20,471 posts)
53. Here's a few paras from
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 09:13 PM
Sep 2017

The Spectator article. Paywall not blocking me - could be NoScript doing its job.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/08/forget-charlottesville-russia-is-still-the-true-trump-scandal/

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Sater and Manafort together would pose a deadly threat to Trump’s presidency if they testify that Russian money in his businesses led to information being exchanged with Russian intelligence. This is exactly the relationship — an ‘exchange running between them for at least eight years’ — that the former MI6 officer Christopher Steele described in his ‘dossier’. At a news conference this week at his New Jersey golf club, the President bizarrely asserted that the Steele dossier had been paid for by Russia in order to damage him. This is the latest twist in Trump’s response to the dossier, which began with flat denials in January that he had been filmed by Russian intelligence with prostitutes in a Moscow hotel room.

That remains unproven. Nevertheless, Steele is not the only source. I heard of Russian kompromat — compromising material — on Trump from two sources months before the Steele dossier came to light. That might be evidence for Trump’s statement that Russian intelligence, as well as the US agencies, are out to get him. There are, though, reports of witnesses in the hotel who corroborate Steele’s reporting. These include an American who’s said to have seen a row with hotel security over whether the (alleged) hookers would be allowed up to Trump’s suite. The dossier’s account of hookers in a Moscow hotel room was the subject of gossip among a select group of journalists, politicians, and intelligence people for months before it was published. Now, claims are circulating of more tapes showing even more extreme behaviour. Expect these allegations to emerge in due course.

Some Republicans in Congress are tiring of the Trump reality show, a mix of The Sopranos and the Kardashians. The Mueller inquiry plods along relentlessly but prosecuting a president is a political decision. Reckless as ever, the President has tweeted criticism of the Senate’s Republican leader, Mitch McConnell, whose help he will need if Mueller finds anything damning. The President’s ordinary supporters don’t care. They fear that they are losing their country — this was an election above all about race; all else is trivia to them, an Enquirer headline.

Even if all the allegations are shown to be true, Trump will simply emerge as the person they supposed him to be when they voted for him.

Paul Wood is a BBC correspondent and fellow of the New America Foundation.

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So is there any extreme deviant behavior greymattermom Sep 2017 #1
Yes...he forgot to have the prostitutes pee on a Koran. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #4
Maybe he peed on a greymattermom Sep 2017 #6
...as far as we know n/t librechik Sep 2017 #114
Yes unless it's him Bradshaw3 Sep 2017 #7
young boy.... dhill926 Sep 2017 #27
No, young girl Lithos Sep 2017 #48
Ivanka Bob Loblaw Sep 2017 #56
This is what I think. Solomon Sep 2017 #84
I disagree mdbl Sep 2017 #85
I was just thinking that. They'll double down, say it makes him more Godly TrogL Sep 2017 #90
There's nothing in the Bible that says NastyRiffraff Sep 2017 #110
Know what? Ligyron Sep 2017 #113
Plenty of repugs in IL still supporting Denny Hassert. You know he had s problem but that was a lunasun Sep 2017 #49
I think it had something to do with underage girls, like the one he allegedly raped adigal Sep 2017 #30
The KGB/FSB specialize in underage lolitas... Raster Sep 2017 #43
The tape is going to show his tiny penis FakeNoose Sep 2017 #55
I hope that was in Hobby Lobby. YOHABLO Sep 2017 #63
Somebody posted this photo on DU about a week ago FakeNoose Sep 2017 #115
hahahaha! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #80
Not one. Trump has found grace in the eye of the lord all is forgiven by God and now he is in the WH lunasun Sep 2017 #45
That is this country's trouble, right there. chwaliszewski Sep 2017 #60
Whoa! You're post requires an eye-bleach-required warning!! malchickiwick Sep 2017 #69
I was thinking just this Lordquinton Sep 2017 #82
Trumpers will say he has suffered enough and they'll embrace golden shower memes , tshirts etc. lunasun Sep 2017 #99
We'll be facing a whole new golden tide Lordquinton Sep 2017 #111
Yikes! That is not a good look - any of those photos. Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2017 #112
They will ignore it even if it is jimlup Sep 2017 #87
Probably something to do with solara Sep 2017 #93
Dressed up like his mother almost Norman Bates like? kimbutgar Sep 2017 #104
Only one Cosmocat Sep 2017 #94
The sex tape isn't that relevant but ... Bradshaw3 Sep 2017 #2
It's relevant because it was (is) being used as a blackmail tool by Putin to get Trump to perform. C Moon Sep 2017 #66
Except you don't know that Bradshaw3 Sep 2017 #73
Okay. That can go both ways. But have it your way. C Moon Sep 2017 #75
Not a matter of me having it my own way Bradshaw3 Sep 2017 #108
Trumplestiltskin could perform the worst acts from PCIntern Sep 2017 #3
What's the difference? SusanaMontana41 Sep 2017 #96
The most compelling aspect of the pee tape story is, it sounds exactly like something he'd do. Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #5
it also sounds like.... garybeck Sep 2017 #46
No, stranger than fiction. Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #51
It doesn't make sense that Trump would have made up a story like that about himself, or even Rove politicaljunkie41910 Sep 2017 #71
Yep....and the more we see of his true nature, the more sure I am that it happened. Lucinda Sep 2017 #65
Given Ken Starr and his Inquisition, I DAMN WELL CARE about a sex tape of Trump! WinkyDink Sep 2017 #8
But, but, but...IOKIYAR Wounded Bear Sep 2017 #12
"Talibangelists"! Genius! WinkyDink Sep 2017 #20
Talibangelists* chwaliszewski Sep 2017 #61
Talibangelists!?!?! MontanaMama Sep 2017 #64
TBH, it's not original from me. I read it somewhere and it stuck... Wounded Bear Sep 2017 #103
..........take win JHan Sep 2017 #76
His base would love to buy copies for their own private use. BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #9
When is this information going to finally come to light? femmocrat Sep 2017 #10
So I could care less, but a gay tape or one showing *45s affinity for domination JDC Sep 2017 #11
I like the way you think. skydive forever Sep 2017 #26
So when will the poop tape hit the fan? Kaleva Sep 2017 #13
I think the Germans have that video. nt hay rick Sep 2017 #19
Are you KIDDING??? Plucketeer Sep 2017 #36
I care about the context (orchestration of this defilement of the room the Obamas once occupied) hlthe2b Sep 2017 #14
Exactly. It means that he was harboring so much loathing... tandem5 Sep 2017 #37
I put it to you that the pee tape would have destroyed him last year ProudLib72 Sep 2017 #15
If he was being blackmailed with it, that could be a matter for Mueller. nt pnwmom Sep 2017 #17
Yes, that is true ProudLib72 Sep 2017 #21
I care most how Mueller's team can leverage this. CakeGrrl Sep 2017 #24
If he's been taking actions against the interests of the US as a result of blackmail, pnwmom Sep 2017 #25
You may be desensitized TNNurse Sep 2017 #22
Believe me, if the pee take showed up on the internet, it would affect him. Trust me. politicaljunkie41910 Sep 2017 #72
Underage girls Johnny2X2X Sep 2017 #16
I Think SO Too Me. Sep 2017 #33
. roamer65 Sep 2017 #44
That's my belief as well Lithos Sep 2017 #50
i think for sure underage girls are involved. JI7 Sep 2017 #74
they'll still try to blame it on the girls NewJeffCT Sep 2017 #97
Bingo Johnny2X2X Sep 2017 #101
I have always assumed that was accurate RandomAccess Sep 2017 #18
I care a lot - a LOT - about a Trump(R) sex tape in the hands of Putin, or any other Squinch Sep 2017 #23
tRump has no shame. Scarsdale Sep 2017 #95
I wonder if they have him with a child? Greybnk48 Sep 2017 #28
I'm not a religious person and don't believe in a higher power. Bleacher Creature Sep 2017 #29
So, i have had my fun..... gay texan Sep 2017 #31
Yeah! Dickwad. flibbitygiblets Sep 2017 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author Marthe48 Sep 2017 #32
Republicans didn't even care that their man had SWORN testimony from MINORS he sexually abused. Sunlei Sep 2017 #34
What I Do Wonder About Is Me. Sep 2017 #35
In due course? What the fuck is everyone waiting for? 45 to actually Neema Sep 2017 #38
The tape may not matter to us "adults" but it does matter bigly to Trump. haveahart Sep 2017 #39
it's the only explanation for why Trump publicly kisses Putin ass Skittles Sep 2017 #40
We already heard the tape... SansACause Sep 2017 #41
Any word on the The Wizard Sep 2017 #42
'more extreme deviant behavior' ?? C_U_L8R Sep 2017 #47
I refuse to imagine! WhiteTara Sep 2017 #52
Love the sig line Tara saidsimplesimon Sep 2017 #54
in court deposition, the child he 'settled case with' said she was restrained, yelled at and hit. Sunlei Sep 2017 #106
Here's a few paras from canetoad Sep 2017 #53
Thanks, canetoad! pnwmom Sep 2017 #59
Well written but I just shake my head bdjhawk Sep 2017 #78
If the BBC is saying it, it's likely true. mwooldri Sep 2017 #57
I'm not expecting any of these tapes ever to be released, provided they do exist. LonePirate Sep 2017 #58
Wood wrote about some of this back in January: Denzil_DC Sep 2017 #62
When Stephen Colbert did he Russia show GreatCaesarsGhost Sep 2017 #67
Actually, peeing-on-the-bed is the story they've been discussing. Supposedly, pnwmom Sep 2017 #70
I think that is already in the Steele dossier NewJeffCT Sep 2017 #102
Ew. Maynar Sep 2017 #77
I think this would humiliate him. I really want to see this thing leaked Maraya1969 Sep 2017 #79
Question: Laffy Kat Sep 2017 #81
Get in line MFM008 Sep 2017 #83
Are you kidding? I would watch it with my kids! Orrex Sep 2017 #107
+ 1 Achilleaze Sep 2017 #118
How I wish our Oppositional Research had found this. aikoaiko Sep 2017 #86
Full Frontal with Samantha Bee found the photo! TomVilmer Sep 2017 #88
Now urine trouble, Donald. nt Xipe Totec Sep 2017 #89
At least he's not having diaper sex with a high-priced hooker Achilleaze Sep 2017 #92
K&R smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #91
Putin has some great dirt on trump Gothmog Sep 2017 #98
i am willing to bet that "the donald" took a golden shower as he was playing w/himself ..... Botany Sep 2017 #105
The only thing the GOP won't forgive? Losing bigbrother05 Sep 2017 #100
be careful quitnesset Sep 2017 #109
I remember somebody tried that on Rachel Maddow already renate Sep 2017 #117
Please be true RhodeIslandOne Sep 2017 #116
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