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TomCADem

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50. Jeff Sessions: DACA "denied jobs to hundreds of thousands of Americans..."

Wed Sep 6, 2017, 02:39 AM

Sep 2017

It seems like Jeff Sessions today was cribbing from Bernie's old talking points.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/9/5/16255436/lies-jeff-sessions-daca

DREAMers took jobs from “hundreds of thousands of Americans”
“It denied jobs to hundreds of thousands of Americans by allowing those same illegal aliens to take those jobs.”

This is almost certainly false. The economic evidence is very clear that immigration is a huge boon for Americans as a whole. In part that’s because of complementarity: Immigrants don’t take jobs from Americans; they let Americans take higher-skill jobs (ones requiring English language fluency, for instance) and complement their labor. America’s past experience confirms this. When the US ended a guest worker program that let Mexican laborers work on US farms in the early 1960s, wages for US farm workers didn’t rise at all, nor did more Americans get jobs. Companies simply bought more machines to make up for the lost workers.

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Bernie Sanders Discussing Immigration Work Authorization Programs With Lou Dobbs [View all] TomCADem Sep 2017 OP

With Lou Dobbs? I'll pass. RandySF Sep 2017 #1

Why not just do the Alex Jones show and get on with it. BannonsLiver Sep 2017 #41

Offs. Bernie has been speaking out for Dreamers for years. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #2

This Just Shows That Even Democrats and "Progressives" Will Attack Immigrants... TomCADem Sep 2017 #7

He never opposed allowing immigrants to work. The SPLC likened Bush's bill to slavery. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #9

and the two Immigration reform bills of 1996? BainsBane Sep 2017 #20

Wow, that sure says a lot. A consistent message from his behavior and his R B Garr Sep 2017 #48

It is the same anti-immigration positions, but dressed up in populist rhetoric... TomCADem Sep 2017 #49

I remember that. Sanders and Dobbs were like two peas in a pod. agreeing with everything. lunamagica Sep 2017 #3

and others agreed with them. BainsBane Sep 2017 #6

I always think it useful to examine candidates voting records BainsBane Sep 2017 #4

Btw Bernie cosponsored the DREAM act. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #5

So when Bernie told Lou Dobbs... TomCADem Sep 2017 #8

He opposed it because it created a permanent underclass of workers. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #10

"Do you have any proof he ever opposed immigrant workers?" George II Sep 2017 #11

Because Bush's bill treated workers like slaves. I already covered that, George. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #12

Is that an objective interpretation? I'm the "SON of an immigrant" myself. It was a good bill. George II Sep 2017 #13

No, as the DAUGHTER of an immigrant I say it wasn't. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #14

Praise the Lord. Got a link? George II Sep 2017 #15

LULAC - League of United Latin American Citizens LeftInTX Sep 2017 #19

So. Ted Kennedy was for treating immigrants as slaves? Who would have thought lunamagica Sep 2017 #27

He seems to have an obscure reason for many of his votes, aye or nay.... George II Sep 2017 #34

+1000, he voted no and then backed up his no vote with extensive R B Garr Sep 2017 #44

Not only that, he claimed that immigrant workers would result in lower wages for Americans... George II Sep 2017 #45

Could be, since he looks to stick with his scripted lines about the middle class, American R B Garr Sep 2017 #47

Jeff Sessions: DACA "denied jobs to hundreds of thousands of Americans..." TomCADem Sep 2017 #50

Yikes, they do use the same rhetoric. This has been a great thread. Very illuminating, and R B Garr Sep 2017 #51

Doesn't Putting Millions In Fear of Deportation Create a Permanent Underclass? TomCADem Sep 2017 #46

+1,000,000 George II Sep 2017 #33

"I read something today that a lot of people coming into this country are coming in as lifeguards." SunSeeker Sep 2017 #16

. . BainsBane Sep 2017 #17

My god kcr Sep 2017 #18

Lifeguards?! Jamaal510 Sep 2017 #22

Sure they are. Look it up. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #23

You linked to the SPLC kcr Sep 2017 #24

I'm sure Bernie would have linked to the SPLC ... Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #25

Oh, I'm sure it was a mistake kcr Sep 2017 #28

I worked with lifeguards up and down the CA coast. They were not J1 visa holders. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #26

Well that settles it. You worked with some lifeguards. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #29

When you say lifeguards, people think of beach lifeguards, not resorts. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #31

In my part of Florida, the hotels and resorts have lots and lots of QC Sep 2017 #42

Problem there is that it is an exchange treestar Sep 2017 #36

Baloney. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #37

why would other countries treestar Sep 2017 #38

Working night shift at a Hershey packing plant for less than minimum wage. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #39

My daughter tells me that Canada murielm99 Sep 2017 #21

Is it not at least a little embarrassing that... RandySF Sep 2017 #30

The challenge is we must never ever even give the appearance of giving succor to our enemies... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #32

as a meztizo clu Sep 2017 #35

Bernie sure does have a lot of sides to him doesn't he? BannonsLiver Sep 2017 #40

The data does not support Bernie's opinion. Adrahil Sep 2017 #43