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Demsrule86

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15. I find your post completely untrue.

Reply to Sen. Walter Sobchak (Original post)

Wed Sep 6, 2017, 09:48 AM

Sep 2017

It was not idealism;it may have started that way but in the general it was punish Democrats by electing Trump (Voting for Stein counts as voting for Trump)...or the parties are all the same-tell that to DACA kids... now it is about primarying sitting Democrats...and enacting purity tests...and causing us to lose in 18 and 20. The party and sitting Democrats were attacked during the general and it continues today. I am sick of losing because of those who claim to be the "best" progressives and the base ( if you don't vote Dem you are no such thing;third party trash). These folks literally have blood on their hands...ask any DACA kid how important it was for the Democrats to win in 16 or if they think the parties are the same. Perhaps you could explain why economics magically trumps social justice while you are at it.

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Focusing on Bernie Sanders as an individual is a harmful distraction [View all] Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2017 OP

Thank you, Walter. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #1

I agree Ken. saidsimplesimon Sep 2017 #26

Any self-identifed progressive who voted, but refused to vote for the Democratic nominee in 2016 still_one Sep 2017 #2

the purpose of DU is to "elect more democrats". that's the guiding principle nt msongs Sep 2017 #3

Does assembling a circular firing squad help "elect more democrats"? Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2017 #5

Have you looked into what Our Revolution is doing? Or now Move On...there are others. They Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #18

"Our Revolution" has stated openly, via their leader Nina Turner, that they could/would.... George II Sep 2017 #20

Exactly...they are not progressives nor are they Democrats. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #22

Nina Turner said this in an interview with The Nation about a month or so ago: George II Sep 2017 #24

"If there is a Republican ... that believes in Medicare For All" geek tragedy Sep 2017 #29

The one-way firing squad certainly hasn't helped BainsBane Sep 2017 #34

Some people like calling people racist and sexist more than they like winning. redgreenandblue Sep 2017 #4

Some people like calling people corporatist and turd way BainsBane Sep 2017 #6

+1000 stonecutter357 Sep 2017 #8

This! mcar Sep 2017 #14

Thank you! Tarheel_Dem Sep 2017 #33

Some folks are racist and sexist as demonstrated by Charlottesville....some people Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #16

Yes, there are people like that, and all of us, whoever we supported in 2016, are against them. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #27

This was my view of the primary, coming from an Independent progressive... chwaliszewski Sep 2017 #7

he lost get over it... stonecutter357 Sep 2017 #9

Walter didn't support Bernie, so you have no reason to say that to him. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #28

Funny how the majority of MRA-ish DUers ended up over at JPR. No pattern there at all. seaglass Sep 2017 #10

Had Bernie won the primary 99% of HRC supporters would have voted for him in the general election. haveahart Sep 2017 #11

+1 dalton99a Sep 2017 #13

History suggests the opposite LostOne4Ever Sep 2017 #19

Facts sometimes get in the way of what people want to believe mythology Sep 2017 #25

Have you forgotten the 2008 PUMAs? aikoaiko Sep 2017 #21

Have you forgotten Bernie is a white guy? Have you forgotten he would have been running against DT? haveahart Sep 2017 #23

There would have been centrist/moderate Clinton supporters who would not have supported geek tragedy Sep 2017 #30

There would have been centrist/moderate Clinton supporters who would not have supported geek tragedy Sep 2017 #31

Actually, we can't be sure of that. There were a LOT of people here Ken Burch Sep 2017 #32

K and R. The demonization of Bernie supporters is incredibly shortsighted Arazi Sep 2017 #12

I find your post completely untrue. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #15

I.m not seeing "sincere optimism," but instead pessimistic nativist-populism that... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #17