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MadHound

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24. Not false equivalency memes, but the historical truth

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 10:53 AM

Jul 2012

FDR snatched planks from the Socialist party platform, made them his own and made them law of the land. Obama snatched Republican policy, made it his own, and now it is law of the land. You don't see the swing to the right in that? C'mon.

You are the one immediately assuming that I'm pushing for Nader, and yet if you read my post I'm actually talking about pushing the Democratic party back to the left. What is wrong with advocating for that? Are we not allowed to advocate for where we want to take the party? If that is the case, then you can let me, and a lot of folks, off right here.

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The lesser of two evils. [View all] MadHound Jul 2012 OP

is a shit phrase... SidDithers Jul 2012 #1

Sid, Sid, Sid, MadHound Jul 2012 #3

Prove it... SidDithers Jul 2012 #4

Link to what? MadHound Jul 2012 #7

You said you've heard me use that phrase for the last 10 years... SidDithers Jul 2012 #9

Nah, not making shit up, MadHound Jul 2012 #19

If you said user used it bigwillq Jul 2012 #29

So you're saying that I should put down the very productive work I'm engaged in currently MadHound Jul 2012 #36

Yes bigwillq Jul 2012 #48

He's not worth it. bvar22 Jul 2012 #50

... SidDithers Jul 2012 #51

Very well said. woo me with science Jul 2012 #57

... SidDithers Jul 2012 #59

I think you've confused DU with reality. emulatorloo Jul 2012 #113

I've been here since 2004 zappaman Jul 2012 #64

The man's busy! Cut him a break! Robb Jul 2012 #65

If you say something you can't prove, tabasco Jul 2012 #122

Nothing but crickets, eh?...nt SidDithers Jul 2012 #15

Quit while you are ahead Sid NNN0LHI Jul 2012 #18

You're right, Don. Good advice...nt SidDithers Jul 2012 #33

I agree Sid. Maybe the lesser of two "Idols" Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #8

And we have compromised our way from enacting socialist policies, MadHound Jul 2012 #12

yes, to a great degree we have- Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #26

Exactly Sid!!!---nt wendylaroux Jul 2012 #32

So is "drone warfare". rug Jul 2012 #61

I can agree Xyzse Jul 2012 #2

Yes, it is a long term strategy, MadHound Jul 2012 #6

Not quite certain. Xyzse Jul 2012 #16

Thank you. EOTE Jul 2012 #5

Agree. n/t 99Forever Jul 2012 #10

All we can do now is to try to stop the move to the right csziggy Jul 2012 #11

That, and "not as bad" has been the de facto campaign slogan for the party for years. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #13

In 2008 I voted for Obama, in 2012 I will vote Autumn Jul 2012 #14

Everyone has different interpretations of what constitutes 'the center' or 'blue dog'. randome Jul 2012 #23

+1 Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #27

Right back at ya! randome Jul 2012 #30

That is what I will do after 2012, and IMO centrists and blue dogs are the Autumn Jul 2012 #43

Dude, you rock! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #76

I agree amfortas the hippie Jul 2012 #17

Welcome to DU, amfortas the hippie. Le Taz Hot Jul 2012 #80

"Things a troll would say to depress Democratic enthusiasm for $200, Alex" scheming daemons Jul 2012 #20

Not false equivalency memes, but the historical truth MadHound Jul 2012 #24

(yawn) Poll_Blind Jul 2012 #31

Thank you whoever alerted on this OP, I missed giving it a rec. Lionessa Jul 2012 #21

Wake up and Smell the 21st Century Zyzafyx Jul 2012 #22

Homeless is homeless ...ask them if it makes a difference. L0oniX Jul 2012 #25

...is still evil (nt) bigwillq Jul 2012 #28

It does feel like a one way street we are on. raouldukelives Jul 2012 #34

But of what use is winning elections, MadHound Jul 2012 #35

+1. The only purpose is as you say to start, the lesser of evils. Lionessa Jul 2012 #37

You can roll over and die, if you want. (Actually, I'd prefer that you don't.) randome Jul 2012 #38

Where are we getting, where are we going under this president, MadHound Jul 2012 #39

Not only do we need to work with what we have... randome Jul 2012 #41

Then you better get busy finding a candidate for 2016 ... Obama is the candidate for 2012. JoePhilly Jul 2012 #46

Well, we have to hope right? It seems like all we have left. raouldukelives Jul 2012 #93

Well, ProSense Jul 2012 #40

How is actual evil in deep shit? MadHound Jul 2012 #42

Complacency, not evils Spike89 Jul 2012 #44

Dear Admins: May we please have un-rec back? Ohio Joe Jul 2012 #45

+1... SidDithers Jul 2012 #47

It's pro-democratic as it suggests ways to improve just1voice Jul 2012 #49

That's just the candy-coating on the bullshit cookie emulatorloo Jul 2012 #55

I prefer posting my objections in the thread. MineralMan Jul 2012 #62

Well said! nt One of the 99 Jul 2012 #67

Rec, unrec, whatever, you made your point, MadHound Jul 2012 #68

who's more Trollish? amfortas the hippie Jul 2012 #84

I agree with this post. Jamaal510 Jul 2012 #52

That's the way it always is going to be treestar Jul 2012 #53

Thank you. We desperately need a plan. woo me with science Jul 2012 #54

As a whole, Republicans are evil. As a whole Dems aren't evil emulatorloo Jul 2012 #56

Idiotic post. Robb Jul 2012 #58

The only people I've seen use that expression MineralMan Jul 2012 #60

You better believe it!...nt SidDithers Jul 2012 #63

Once again MM, you're reading for the quick snark, not content. MadHound Jul 2012 #70

No, I'm not doing that at all. MineralMan Jul 2012 #83

Yep, Still Evil. Kurt Sperry Jul 2012 #66

Utilitarianism is a valid ideology dmallind Jul 2012 #115

MadNeedsANewHobby WilliamPitt Jul 2012 #69

Well said! B Calm Jul 2012 #71

You, of all people, cautioning against matches and kerosene, MadHound Jul 2012 #72

"...thus I don't have time to engage in the drama" WilliamPitt Jul 2012 #73

Amen. woo me with science Jul 2012 #74

Yep. The news is all good for Obama so DevonRex Jul 2012 #75

"Were parties here divided merely by a greediness for office,...to take a part with either.... Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #77

New poll reflects ‘lesser of two evils’ mood with Obama in big lead Yeah Its Spin Jul 2012 #78

The biggest obstacles are the major political parties. Le Taz Hot Jul 2012 #79

So the Democratic Party is EVIL? Obama is EVIL? DevonRex Jul 2012 #81

sorry amfortas the hippie Jul 2012 #85

in the black/white with us or against us mentality Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #86

Wow, you're reading a lot into my OP that simply isn't there. MadHound Jul 2012 #87

actually, you Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #88

Well, the fact is, if we can't pull the party back to the left, we are fucked. MadHound Jul 2012 #92

Calling Democrats and the Democratic Party evil for a start. DevonRex Jul 2012 #103

Always glad to be of service, MadHound Jul 2012 #107

Perhaps you did. Like don't insult people here? Nt DevonRex Jul 2012 #117

take a good look at some of the choices being offered hfojvt Jul 2012 #89

YES!!!! Finally an honest answer ladies and gentlemen. DevonRex Jul 2012 #101

Oh for pete's sake. nt woo me with science Jul 2012 #91

Don't be condescending to me. I'm a lesser of 2 evils. DevonRex Jul 2012 #100

That was incoherent. woo me with science Jul 2012 #120

Sophistry. Are, all Democrats up for election GOOD? Are all Democrats GOOD? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #110

I think Democrats are pretty damned good people. Nt DevonRex Jul 2012 #118

All of them? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #126

sad to say hfojvt Jul 2012 #82

Who is this 'we' you speak of? People who agree with you? randome Jul 2012 #90

we is usually me hfojvt Jul 2012 #128

Desperate Strawman argument. emulatorloo Jul 2012 #112

When I vote for Obama in November, I won't be voting for an "evil" cali Jul 2012 #94

+1 Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #96

I pen the same screed endlessly? Really? MadHound Jul 2012 #97

+1. DevonRex Jul 2012 #104

Well hey, admitting to the problem is always half the problem, MadHound Jul 2012 #106

Correct, but Third Way corporatists will prevent liberal Democrats from ever electing liberal Dems. Zorra Jul 2012 #95

Yup. The Third Way was never a grass roots phenomenon. woo me with science Jul 2012 #127

Looks like someone is sad that the Democrats are winning this thing. Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #98

Looks like somebody has no clue about me or what I'm talking about. MadHound Jul 2012 #99

Yawn. Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #102

Sadly typical of your fare, MadHound Jul 2012 #105

Sorry, I would respond, but I have Very Important Work to do. Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #109

Well run along then, MadHound Jul 2012 #111

I call that my Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #116

In the past you've advocated letting Republicans win. You are doing the same here, but more subtly emulatorloo Jul 2012 #119

Wow. Look at his OP that started that thread. DevonRex Jul 2012 #123

He wants everybody else to has a sad too. DevonRex Jul 2012 #121

Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #108

How well do left-of-Democratic candidates do when they are available? dmallind Jul 2012 #114

DU unrec. great white snark Jul 2012 #124

DU Rec. nt woo me with science Jul 2012 #125

And here I thought trying to suppress turnout was a Republican thing. AtomicKitten Jul 2012 #129