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treestar

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57. Also too inefficient

Thu Sep 14, 2017, 07:51 PM

Sep 2017

and we have enough people in jails already.

And we'd need a million more ICE agents.

The best way to deal with it is just let them have the job if they can get it. The US citizen will be a preferable worker for most employers, so if an alien can get a job offer with full labor law protections, let them have it.

If we really can compete, why do we need artificial methods to keep others from getting the jobs?

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Would you accept a border wall in exchange for amnesty? [View all] BluegrassDem Sep 2017 OP

No unc70 Sep 2017 #1

I live in Germany DFW Sep 2017 #2

No underpants Sep 2017 #3

No. It would be a hideous failure on the Dems' part. anneboleyn Sep 2017 #4

NO MoonRiver Sep 2017 #5

Bad idea PJMcK Sep 2017 #6

Not only that the enormous expense wouldn't end after construction Major Nikon Sep 2017 #9

as V. Fox told us: re, the ladder treestar Sep 2017 #53

I don't support a wall either Mosby Sep 2017 #19

A part of the fence was blown up JonLP24 Sep 2017 #60

Also, how far into the Gulf of Mexico and the Pacific ocean does this wall actually go? elehhhhna Sep 2017 #54

Also tunnels JonLP24 Sep 2017 #62

No, the wall would be an obscene waste Fresh_Start Sep 2017 #7

I haven't met a single person who thinks it's a good idea. Dave Starsky Sep 2017 #16

Possibly... Mike Nelson Sep 2017 #8

Not just "no" but "FUCK no"... ADX Sep 2017 #10

It is THE stupidest idea of all time. Dave Starsky Sep 2017 #13

The Iraq War was pretty dumb, but I think the wall beats it. white_wolf Sep 2017 #49

Essentially we would be spending billions of dollars in order to help assure people who came to this Tiggeroshii Sep 2017 #11

Walls are stupid. Iggo Sep 2017 #12

It's a hideous waste of money for a complete boondoggle. nt Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2017 #14

No...nt Wounded Bear Sep 2017 #15

Sort of metalbot Sep 2017 #17

The very notion of a border wall is offensive, so no. Orrex Sep 2017 #18

How do you feel about the existing fence? Not Ruth Sep 2017 #31

Down it comes, asap Hekate Sep 2017 #38

So zero border enforcement of any kind ? nm MichMan Sep 2017 #52

Not of medieval notions treestar Sep 2017 #55

It doesn't do squat as far as border enforcement JonLP24 Sep 2017 #63

What a bs statement. You think that and only that is how border control is achieved? Hekate Sep 2017 #72

The poster stated that they wanted all of the existing barriers also torn down asap MichMan Sep 2017 #82

The poster was me, and that is not how you phrased it, which was as an either/or. Hekate Sep 2017 #83

One obviates the need for the other Mr. Ected Sep 2017 #20

NO F'ING WAY! mnhtnbb Sep 2017 #21

NO Runningdawg Sep 2017 #22

as a mexican clu Sep 2017 #23

"would be to improve the conditions in mexico " Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #34

And Central America Hekate Sep 2017 #39

That position might make some populist-nativists unhappy. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #44

We could stop immigration tomorrow by arresting and jailing... Dave Starsky Sep 2017 #50

Also too inefficient treestar Sep 2017 #57

My point is, we are just pretending... Dave Starsky Sep 2017 #68

It's a system we have treestar Sep 2017 #70

No freakin way.......... Bengus81 Sep 2017 #24

Absolutely not. Ms. Toad Sep 2017 #25

No. panader0 Sep 2017 #26

This is a dumb question. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #27

No. Trump does not live up to his end of deals. Orsino Sep 2017 #28

False choice no_hypocrisy Sep 2017 #29

Lgbt rights up next? Let's horse trade everything! Like a business!!1!! elehhhhna Sep 2017 #59

Would you accept a fascist as president? No wall - ever. Not a penny of my taxes goes there. RiverStone Sep 2017 #30

Looks like your trial balloon is made of lead. ret5hd Sep 2017 #32

Yes. Without question. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #33

Lots of environmental issues in some places, plus ranchers Blue_true Sep 2017 #61

It would have to be outlined in that manner. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #84

No. Don't want to be that country with a wall. nt Laffy Kat Sep 2017 #35

Fuck no Downtown Hound Sep 2017 #36

WTF are you talking about? Schumer and Pelosi just managed to separate the Wall from DACA... Hekate Sep 2017 #37

No sarisataka Sep 2017 #40

No. It's a ridiculous notion. Squinch Sep 2017 #41

No Justice Sep 2017 #42

No. It's a symbol of racism, isolation & belief in superiority Alice11111 Sep 2017 #43

NOPE. No acheivements for him. bettyellen Sep 2017 #45

The Wall Is a Stupid Idea Leith Sep 2017 #46

No Luciferous Sep 2017 #47

Until they come down HARD on employers who hire undocumented workers TexasBushwhacker Sep 2017 #48

Or milking cows with frozen hands. Or working in a hot assed kitchen. Blue_true Sep 2017 #64

All countries control their borders. But a wall is a giant, silly waste. Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #51

I agree with you. Willie Pep Sep 2017 #75

Not a wall JonLP24 Sep 2017 #56

I would accept it. Blue_true Sep 2017 #58

Yep, in a heartbeat. SaschaHM Sep 2017 #65

Maybe a wall border: tblue37 Sep 2017 #66

Part of that border would be impossible to fence. northoftheborder Sep 2017 #67

No. GoCubsGo Sep 2017 #69

Trump could be re-elected and progress on that stupid wall would still be minimal Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2017 #71

McTurtle: Top Priority, Make Obama a One Term President XRubicon Sep 2017 #73

No the wall is useless. Willie Pep Sep 2017 #74

No. Shrike47 Sep 2017 #76

No Danmel Sep 2017 #77

Fuck no ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #78

No, it's a fucking waste of money and it WON'T WORK Warpy Sep 2017 #79

what's all this "accept/exchange" stuff? 0rganism Sep 2017 #80

Absolutely. nt Purveyor Sep 2017 #81

No Mendocino Sep 2017 #85