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milestogo

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10. Do I really have to explain this?
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 10:43 PM
Sep 2017
2000: This was the second closest presidential election (1960 was the the closest) in the nation's history, with a .009% margin, 537 votes, separating the two candidates in the decisive state, Florida. The narrow margin there triggered a mandatory machine recount the next day, after which Gore requested hand recounts in four counties, including three in populous South Florida, as permitted by law. Litigation ensued in numerous counties in both state and federal courts, ultimately reaching the Florida Supreme Court and the United States Supreme Court. The high court's contentious 5–4 decision in Bush v. Gore, announced on December 12, 2000, ended a statewide recount ordered by the Florida Supreme Court on December 8, effectively awarding Florida's votes to Bush and granting him the victory. According to Lance deHaven-Smith of Florida State University, based on "the definitive study of the uncounted ballots" (the Florida Ballot Project by NORC at the University of Chicago), if all the legally valid votes in Florida had been counted statewide, Gore would have been the winner."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2000

2004: Ohio made the difference between a win for Kerry and a win for Bush. "A review of the available data reveals that in Ohio alone, at least 357,000 voters, the overwhelming majority of them Democratic, were prevented from casting ballots or did not have their votes counted in 2004 -- more than enough to shift the results of an election decided by 118,601 votes. In what may be the single most astounding fact from the election, one in every four Ohio citizens who registered to vote in 2004 showed up at the polls only to discover that they were not listed on the rolls, thanks to GOP efforts to stem the unprecedented flood of Democrats eager to cast ballots. And that doesn't even take into account the troubling evidence of outright fraud, which indicates that upwards of 80,000 votes for Kerry were counted instead for Bush. That alone is a swing of more than 160,000 votes -- enough to have put John Kerry in the White House.

https://www.commondreams.org/views06/0601-34.htm

2016: Clinton received about 2.9 million more votes nationwide, a margin of 2.1%. On January 6, 2017, the United States government's intelligence agencies concluded that the Russian government interfered in the 2016 United States elections. By the time we know exactly what happened in this election Trump will have finished serving his term. But I don't have any doubt that there was enough interference to swing the election to Trump. When all the evidence is in, it will be overwhelming.

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Seems only way Republican Presidents get elected. Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #1
Agreed MFM008 Sep 2017 #2
What a different world we'd be in if these 3 had won. annabanana Sep 2017 #3
3 major heartaches blue cat Sep 2017 #4
We won the 2012 congressional elections too, but were robbed and lost seats stevenleser Sep 2017 #5
We were. SammyWinstonJack Sep 2017 #6
Yeap, ALL THREE there was something OVERTLY AND OPENLY WRONG ! Would NOT be surprised if Russia was uponit7771 Sep 2017 #7
So every time a DEM didn't win we were robbed? m-lekktor Sep 2017 #8
Do I really have to explain this? milestogo Sep 2017 #10
+1. Thank you lunamagica Sep 2017 #12
WTF are we going to do about it? world wide wally Sep 2017 #9
An argument can be made that Mondale and Dukakis were unjustly deprived of their presidency. egduj Sep 2017 #11
If so, the American people were the ones who were deprived. milestogo Sep 2017 #13
Does Kerry run for president in 2004 PDittie Sep 2017 #14
If Gore had won in 2000, he would run for re-election in 2004, he would be favored to win in nkpolitics1212 Sep 2017 #15
Great question and great fodder for PDittie Sep 2017 #19
And they'll do it again in 2020 if we don't stop them. Initech Sep 2017 #16
tell it to our "leaders." nt TheFrenchRazor Sep 2017 #17
Gore, Kerry and Clinton are free to run for Senate/Congress in soon midterms. RUN VS Republicans. Sunlei Sep 2017 #18
That is more than half the presidential elections I've voted in crazycatlady Sep 2017 #20
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