Are some on DU hoping Single Payer Health care fails?

[Warren DeMontague]

140. It's well past time to move the conversation over to Single Payer, and that's what they're helping

to do.

This has gotta be the ONLY discussion I've seen on DU where all of a sudden some of the best, most brilliant Senators we have are not qualified and don't know what they're doing, in supporting a measure like this. Did the Senators that voted for the ACA not know what they were doing? Some of them are the same people, here.

I've said at least once just today, for starts, that the ACA was an improvement on the pre-ACA status quo. Does that mean that it's the best possible answer we could ever achieve, or that we should cease all conversation? Obama himself said that, if one was building a health care system from scratch, a single payer system would probably make the most sense, both morally AND fiscally. Did the person whose name is on Obamacare know what he was talking about?

I think he did.

Part of the complex, expertise-requiring aspect of the ACA is the fact that it is attempting to incorporate and placate a for-profit insurance industry that, in some cases, adds something like 20% overhead to health care costs. It's not "ideology" that says a single payer, single pool system that takes the for-profit industry out of the equation would be better for almost everyone (except, again, those with ties to that industry), it's pretty basic logic.

Medicare for all would be, in many ways, a tremendous simplification to a needlessly complex system.