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CherokeeFiddle

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111. Except one very big thing---

Sun Sep 17, 2017, 07:05 AM

Sep 2017

The majority of American's view single payer as a positive thing and the majority now wants it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/16/most-americans-want-to-replace-obamacare-with-a-single-payer-system-including-a-lot-of-republicans/

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Senator asks for CBO score of Sanders's single-payer bill [View all] applegrove Sep 2017 OP

"But..... Turbineguy Sep 2017 #1

I wonder what Sen. Barrasso GaryCnf Sep 2017 #2

Yes there were false DUers on last night to worry us about single payer. applegrove Sep 2017 #4

What's a "false DUer"? (n/t) OilemFirchen Sep 2017 #6

Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #9

Someone introducing GOP ideas into the DU under pretence that they are a Democrat when applegrove Sep 2017 #11

I see. OilemFirchen Sep 2017 #15

I alert. At some point others may too and it will come to the attention of the administrators. Why applegrove Sep 2017 #16

Good idea. OilemFirchen Sep 2017 #18

No idea. I assume if multiple alerts take place administrators take a look. Sober second thought. applegrove Sep 2017 #19

Why would you assume that? OilemFirchen Sep 2017 #22

And then admin take a second closer alert at the post and the thread and decide applegrove Sep 2017 #23

Lizards. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #97

Like people using the Republican script from a few weeks ago Ninsianna Sep 2017 #93

I didn't think you could top concern troll but well done tymorial Sep 2017 #31

Lmao!!! "False duers"!!!! boston bean Sep 2017 #39

Please clarify... GulfCoast66 Sep 2017 #71

I alert. You can too. We are not supposed to put up right wing talking points. That applegrove Sep 2017 #74

I agree with everything you typed GulfCoast66 Sep 2017 #75

If they put forth right wing talking points i alert. On any topic. applegrove Sep 2017 #77

Apparently you are not willing to lay out GulfCoast66 Sep 2017 #80

We all do our best. Alerting is anonymous. applegrove Sep 2017 #83

Agreed. GulfCoast66 Sep 2017 #84

You too. applegrove Sep 2017 #85

I suspect that EVERY Senator, including those who have co-sponsored the bill, is interested... George II Sep 2017 #114

This message was self-deleted by its author applegrove Sep 2017 #3

I knew this was coming. Lee Adama Sep 2017 #5

Doubt it. We will kick rethug ass. bronxiteforever Sep 2017 #36

No, we will waste time explaining there are options to fund it. Lee Adama Sep 2017 #45

We will kick their fucking ass bronxiteforever Sep 2017 #55

In politics, when you are explaining, you are losing. Lee Adama Sep 2017 #56

"Dear 99% of the American people GaryCnf Sep 2017 #59

Doesn't work like that. Lee Adama Sep 2017 #60

No, that's exactly how it works GaryCnf Sep 2017 #61

That "succinct explanation" will only make it worse. Lee Adama Sep 2017 #63

Apparently there is some disagreement GaryCnf Sep 2017 #66

And I say it is going to backfire in a massive way once CBO releases its results. Lee Adama Sep 2017 #67

You are wrong Motownman78 Sep 2017 #70

Yeah, just wait until the CBO score comes out. Lee Adama Sep 2017 #73

Here is a secret Motownman78 Sep 2017 #78

Great explanations. Unfortunately, this looks like a pattern. R B Garr Sep 2017 #89

The CBO is a non partisan group. sheshe2 Sep 2017 #79

Except one very big thing--- CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #111

The thing to remind people hurple Sep 2017 #7

My taxes will be raised as will my wife's. tymorial Sep 2017 #69

Can you be certain of that? Motownman78 Sep 2017 #72

Be careful HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #8

So you think that bill should be exempt from the law requiring a CBO score? BainsBane Sep 2017 #86

Could you please clarify something for me. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #98

Anything negative about this bill GulfCoast66 Sep 2017 #102

I don't believe such an approach is fair or productive. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #103

Agreed GulfCoast66 Sep 2017 #104

I'll be interested in learning more about this... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #10

I'm sure the results from GaryCnf Sep 2017 #28

I have a sneaking feeling it will show up here too. aidbo Sep 2017 #33

So you've pre-judged before the facts are in? Good to know. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #34

No, I've "pre-judged" the motives GaryCnf Sep 2017 #38

LOL NurseJackie Sep 2017 #42

You do realize that he's not the CBO and is not involved in doing the scoring or Ninsianna Sep 2017 #65

I understand GaryCnf Sep 2017 #68

Then you do not understand. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #88

It's amazing GaryCnf Sep 2017 #90

It's amazing that you don't seem to understand what the CBO is Ninsianna Sep 2017 #91

Not just for you GaryCnf Sep 2017 #95

Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #107

You can spin all you want FRIEND, it won't work GaryCnf Sep 2017 #109

I'm not spinning anything. The level of hostility and the clear ad hominems here show that you are. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #115

Do you understand that more than 60% of ALL Americans are what you disdainfully call "Centrists"? George II Sep 2017 #113

The CBO is a non-partisan organization. tammywammy Sep 2017 #53

John Barrasso agrees GaryCnf Sep 2017 #57

If he agreed that water was wet, would that also be something to Ninsianna Sep 2017 #64

You know who else derided the CBO? tammywammy Sep 2017 #76

It's amazing Ninsianna Sep 2017 #92

The CBO does have to score these bills, and of course they're Ninsianna Sep 2017 #62

It won't happen right away because the CBO has been order to drop everything to score Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #101

That's fine, but the ignorance about the CBO and the use of literally GOP Ninsianna Sep 2017 #108

You think the CBO is ultra right wing. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #99

Never said that GaryCnf Sep 2017 #100

It's exactly what was being referenced. Nt Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #105

What was being referenced GaryCnf Sep 2017 #106

As they should nini Sep 2017 #12

I remember when DU was ablaze thinking the CBO would not score republican plans nt msongs Sep 2017 #13

What is the CBO score of the newest GOP repeal of ACA (the GRAHAM CASSIDY Bill)?! BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #14

Why do they assert "Medicare For All" is free? It's not. Taxes will need to be raised Vinca Sep 2017 #17

Because their foolish supporters will latch onto it... TCJ70 Sep 2017 #21

We are already spending $3.2 Trillion annually TexasBushwhacker Sep 2017 #37

The system will need to be fixed internally as well, otherwise this won't work Amishman Sep 2017 #41

But even medicare doesn't cover no questions asked. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #94

That awkward moment when you start praising Republicans... Barack_America Sep 2017 #20

LOL! QC Sep 2017 #24

Oh I am sure the CBO will show how much cheaper on the whole single payer is applegrove Sep 2017 #25

Sure, if you think that a single public pool'd be cheaper than the 20% overhead that the for-profit Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #29

Exactly. I studied public policy economics in university. Public health care applegrove Sep 2017 #30

the logic isn't terribly complicated. Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #32

And reduces costs. Canadian healthcare costs less than 2/3rds of American health care per person. applegrove Sep 2017 #35

It will show cheaper health care and increased coverage but those will be glossed over by Repubs. LonePirate Sep 2017 #54

Absolutely. applegrove Sep 2017 #58

Yeah, whatever happened to "you better stop piling on Booker and Harris"? Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #27

The bill doesn't include funding details so there is nothing for CBO JI7 Sep 2017 #26

Actually GaryCnf Sep 2017 #40

The article says the bill has no funding mechanism. So what are republicans JI7 Sep 2017 #46

Exactly! GaryCnf Sep 2017 #49

If we are serious about eventually implementing it, a CBO score is needed. SaschaHM Sep 2017 #43

And to start a campaign that higher taxes will be worth it JI7 Sep 2017 #47

I actually don't think it will be the taxes that doom it. SaschaHM Sep 2017 #50

Yes. That's where we had the lawsuits when it came to ACA JI7 Sep 2017 #51

It will be tripped up as it was in the 90's. Most still have workplace insurance and don't want to Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #96

Somehow Britain and many other industrialized nations have pulled it off for the last 50 years or so Impeach Trump Sep 2017 #44

I don't have a problem with there being a CBO score dsc Sep 2017 #48

Here's a good article on what Sanders released today that actually has some numbers. Hoyt Sep 2017 #52

"where does he come up with these fictitious pots of money" ZX86 Sep 2017 #81

Well, you have a point, but it's still bull. Hoyt Sep 2017 #82

How about a CBO score for that money pit, also known as the Defense Department, while we are at it? jalan48 Sep 2017 #87

Now you're talking! CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #112

Good! I want to see the CBO score! CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #110