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In reply to the discussion: Watched the first installment of Ken Burns' The Vietnam War [View all]dalton99a
(93,061 posts)34. They thought he was French:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._Peter_Dewey
Dewey arrived on September 4, 1945, in Saigon to head a seven-man OSS team "to represent American interests" and collect intelligence.[15] Working with the Viet Minh, he arranged the repatriation of 4,549 Allied POWs, including 240 Americans, from two Japanese camps near Saigon,[16] code named Project Embankment. Because the British occupation forces who had arrived to accept the Japanese surrender were short of troops, they armed French POWs on September 22 to protect the city from a potential Viet Minh attack. In taking control of the city, the French soldiers were quick to beat or shoot Vietnamese who resisted the reestablishment of French authority.
Dewey complained about the abuse to the British commander, General Douglas Gracey, who took exception to Dewey's objections and declared Dewey persona non grata. Adhering to strict tradition, Gracey prohibited anyone but general officers from flying flags from their vehicles. Dewey had wanted to fly an American flag for easy identification among the Viet Minh, who Dewey claimed were only concerned about attacking the French. The jeep he rode in prior to his death had a flag wrapped around a pole that was unidentifiable.[17] Because the airplane scheduled to fly Dewey out did not arrive on time at Tan Son Nhat International Airport, he returned for a lunch meeting with war correspondents Bill Downs and Jim McGlincy at the villa that OSS had requisitioned in Saigon.[18] As he neared the villa, he was shot in the head in an ambush by Viet Minh troops. Dewey's jeep overturned, and Dewey's subordinate, Captain Herbert Bluechel, escaped without serious injury, pursued by Viet Minh soldiers.[19]
The Viet Minh afterward claimed that their troops mistook him for a Frenchman after he had spoken to them in French. Bluechel later recalled that Dewey had shaken his fist and yelled at three Vietnamese soldiers in French while driving back to headquarters.[20] According to Vietnamese historian Trần Văn Giàu, Dewey's body was dumped in a nearby river and was never recovered.[12] Reportedly, Ho Chi Minh sent a letter of condolence about Deweys death to U.S. President Harry S. Truman while also ordering a search for the colonel's body.[12]
A. Peter Dewey was noted for his prediction over the future of the First Indochina War and the Vietnam War: "Cochinchina is burning, the French and the British are being destroyed there and we are forced to get out of Southeast Asia" due to recent conflict between France and Vietnam.
Dewey arrived on September 4, 1945, in Saigon to head a seven-man OSS team "to represent American interests" and collect intelligence.[15] Working with the Viet Minh, he arranged the repatriation of 4,549 Allied POWs, including 240 Americans, from two Japanese camps near Saigon,[16] code named Project Embankment. Because the British occupation forces who had arrived to accept the Japanese surrender were short of troops, they armed French POWs on September 22 to protect the city from a potential Viet Minh attack. In taking control of the city, the French soldiers were quick to beat or shoot Vietnamese who resisted the reestablishment of French authority.
Dewey complained about the abuse to the British commander, General Douglas Gracey, who took exception to Dewey's objections and declared Dewey persona non grata. Adhering to strict tradition, Gracey prohibited anyone but general officers from flying flags from their vehicles. Dewey had wanted to fly an American flag for easy identification among the Viet Minh, who Dewey claimed were only concerned about attacking the French. The jeep he rode in prior to his death had a flag wrapped around a pole that was unidentifiable.[17] Because the airplane scheduled to fly Dewey out did not arrive on time at Tan Son Nhat International Airport, he returned for a lunch meeting with war correspondents Bill Downs and Jim McGlincy at the villa that OSS had requisitioned in Saigon.[18] As he neared the villa, he was shot in the head in an ambush by Viet Minh troops. Dewey's jeep overturned, and Dewey's subordinate, Captain Herbert Bluechel, escaped without serious injury, pursued by Viet Minh soldiers.[19]
The Viet Minh afterward claimed that their troops mistook him for a Frenchman after he had spoken to them in French. Bluechel later recalled that Dewey had shaken his fist and yelled at three Vietnamese soldiers in French while driving back to headquarters.[20] According to Vietnamese historian Trần Văn Giàu, Dewey's body was dumped in a nearby river and was never recovered.[12] Reportedly, Ho Chi Minh sent a letter of condolence about Deweys death to U.S. President Harry S. Truman while also ordering a search for the colonel's body.[12]
A. Peter Dewey was noted for his prediction over the future of the First Indochina War and the Vietnam War: "Cochinchina is burning, the French and the British are being destroyed there and we are forced to get out of Southeast Asia" due to recent conflict between France and Vietnam.
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Watched the first installment of Ken Burns' The Vietnam War [View all]
question everything
Sep 2017
OP
Like Iraq, VN wasn't a threat to us - Just a place to kill innocent Asians (Muslims) with our bombs.
Hoyt
Sep 2017
#4
Jeeez -- Muslims refers to Iraq. We were killing Asians in Vietnam. Muslims refers to Iraq where
Hoyt
Sep 2017
#33
Nope, quit reading pointing at each word. I stated that VN, like Iraq, were just exercise in killing
Hoyt
Sep 2017
#44
You did note the use of parenthesis? Probably not the best way to convey the idea.
retread
Sep 2017
#46
WWII was the last legitimate war. You gonna tell us how Vietnam and Iraq were legitimate wars?
Hoyt
Sep 2017
#60
We bombed VN because we could and they were Asians, sorry. Same for Iraq, but they were Muslims.
Hoyt
Sep 2017
#64
Do you seriously think people in N or S Vietnam wanted us there napalming women and children?
Hoyt
Sep 2017
#67
While Apocalypse Now has been the definite movie about the early days of the war
question everything
Sep 2017
#41
yes, we never should have "given" the French back Vietnam. That was the big mistake.
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2017
#7
It was ALL about the Cold War. same with Iran, Afghanistan, Somalia , Latin America ETC
JI7
Sep 2017
#8
Mostly the old double cross by the US, things could have been very different.
Historic NY
Sep 2017
#14
After WWI, Ho Chi Minh tried to communicate with Woodrow Wilson about independence from France
muntrv
Sep 2017
#54
Yep. Seems to me he only turned to the communists after everyone else told him to fuck off.
SunSeeker
Sep 2017
#39
I was struck by the CIA diverting Ho Chi Minh's letters to Wilson, Trum,an and Ike
The Blue Flower
Sep 2017
#29
Perhaps. But I thought that he provided important historical background
question everything
Sep 2017
#49
There was a member of Congress, do not remember who, suggesting that we should have just
question everything
Sep 2017
#50
The Vietnamese were pressing for freedoms as early as the Versailles Treaty.
LanternWaste
Sep 2017
#61
I remember Sheehan's book. I think that he had to fight the CIA to publish
question everything
Sep 2017
#75