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LenaBaby61

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19. Then how did Obama win twice?

Reply to melman (Reply #8)

Wed Sep 20, 2017, 03:42 PM

Sep 2017

IF Pres. Obama had faced what Hillary did (Voter-crosschecking, voter ID'ing, voter-purging, gerrymandering--ALL ON STEROIDS) and throw in propaganda, Facebook, ruskie interference (And we STILL don't know the extent of what their interference WAS into our elections, let's just say that it was in NO way positive as you'd imagine), he'd have lost to tRumputin.

NO Dem was going to win the 2016 GE with all of the shenanigans that went on during the 2016 GE.

Crosscheck Removed 450K Voters in MI, 270 K in AZ and 590 K in NC.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/11/14/1599330/-Crosscheck-Removed-450K-Voters-in-MI-270-K-in-AZ-and-590-K-in-NC

This Election Is Being Rigged—but Not by Democrats.

The GOP’s voter-suppression efforts are the real voter fraud.
By Ari Berman
OCTOBER 17, 2016

https://www.thenation.com/article/this-election-is-being-rigged/

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GOP Not Worried. They Have 2018/2020 In The Bag. They Control Who Wins. [View all] TheMastersNemesis Sep 2017 OP

Sadly, there is so much to what you say. Funtatlaguy Sep 2017 #1

The Point Of My Post Is The We Must Go After These Bastards And Put Fear In Them. TheMastersNemesis Sep 2017 #3

I have long been in favor of the Dems having a sort of Funtatlaguy Sep 2017 #6

We don't have to lie and cheat to win but we can combat their lying and cheating with a... brush Sep 2017 #10

I think Michelle Obama is great, BUT... white_wolf Sep 2017 #16

Completely agree!!! FiveGoodMen Sep 2017 #26

I feel you and understand what you are trying to say but cant really say Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #27

Doesn't Matter How You Win, Just Win SoCalMusicLover Sep 2017 #2

Take it easy there, Machiavelli, ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #33

We don't need to cheat, steal, Bettie Sep 2017 #34

They only worry about their primaries edhopper Sep 2017 #4

Given that there were no votes changed, hogwash mythology Sep 2017 #5

"Given that there were no votes changed, hogwash.... LenaBaby61 Sep 2017 #7

The consensus here is votes were changed... Joe941 Sep 2017 #9

The consensus here is votes were changed... LenaBaby61 Sep 2017 #15

Maybe they were, but that's some flawed logic Bradical79 Sep 2017 #31

Maybe they were, but that's some flawed logic. LenaBaby61 Sep 2017 #32

Then how did Obama win twice? melman Sep 2017 #8

Come on. It's not like Rove didn't try. We all (maybe you didn't) saw his meltdown on Nat'l TV... brush Sep 2017 #12

They Had Not Yet Perfected Their Game. TheMastersNemesis Sep 2017 #13

Then how did Obama win twice? LenaBaby61 Sep 2017 #19

I disagree melman Sep 2017 #22

Obama would have won easily against Trump. Easily. LenaBaby61 Sep 2017 #28

No, not with voter suppression ... That's what changed after 2012 uponit7771 Sep 2017 #29

One reason: we had a stronger party in 2008. delisen Sep 2017 #23

Don't forget Gerrymandered districts JDC Sep 2017 #11

Gerrymandering Was Key Not Yet Accomplished In 2008. TheMastersNemesis Sep 2017 #14

Here in Ohio, due to the VRA Lord_at_War Sep 2017 #20

If the situation is as dire as you say and resistance is futile what do you suggest we do ? DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #17

Wish I could disagree with you. arthritisR_US Sep 2017 #18

Usually not a big fan of argument by image but... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #21

Looks like that to me too. ananda Sep 2017 #24

Thanks for the update. BannonsLiver Sep 2017 #25

Thanks Eeyore. smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #30